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[CardButton]

Saved Kal'Hirol, saved Amaranthine, cleared out Amgarrack, found the cure for the taint.

When did this happen?!  I recall they were searching for a cure, but I was under the impression that they still hadn't found one yet.

 

Also pretty sure in regards to the HoF that character CAN be 10 years dead by the point of the Inquisitor.  Yes, they are a hero of the age and they are still important ... but there is more immediate and pressing issues to sing about.  Plus, would you want to hear the same songs about the same less-than relevant person for 10 years straight?  

[Dai Grepher]

Trespasser's ending implies that the Hero who romanced Leliana returns soon after, which would only be if the cure was found. The timetable would be the same for all Heroes though.

 

Ult Sac Heroes don't factor in to this.

Modifié par Dai Grepher, 05 février 2016 - 06:35 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

HoF was replaced by the Inquisitor in the role of "big hero who saves world from ancient evuls!!!!"

News flash!

 

Start a thread about hero replacements. Naw, Arshei.

[Wulfram]

Refutation

[Arshei]

When did this happen?!  I recall they were searching for a cure, but I was under the impression that they still hadn't found one yet.

 

Also pretty sure in regards to the HoF that character CAN be 10 years dead by the point of the Inquisitor.  Yes, they are a hero of the age and they are still important ... but there is more immediate and pressing issues to sing about.  Plus, would you want to hear the same songs about the same less-than relevant person for 10 years straight?  

 

If you romanced Leliana in the epilogue they are togheter again, if he/she didn't found the cure then found a way to make it longer, he should be dead if not.

 

 

Divine, Warden romance

Leliana continued her open affair with the Hero of Ferelden. She/he was often seen at the Divine's side. Eventually, Divine Victoria decreed that all members of the Chantry, from initiate to Divine, would be allowed to engage in romantic relationships. When questioned, the Divine pointed to Andraste, who served the Maker while wed to a mortal spouse. In time, many in the Chantry came to accept the Divine's decree that "Love is the Maker's best gift and is infinite."

 

Not Divine, Warden romance

Leliana continued her romantic affair with the Hero of Ferelden, even though their respective responsibilities often kept them/the two women apart. Whenever she could spare the time, Leliana would join her love at a villa on the Waking Sea - the house from Leliana's childhood. Those days were deeply cherished, for both saw the troubles that were to come.

 

 

News flash!

 

Start a thread about hero replacements. Naw, Arshei.

 

Not everything in the life is solved making post in a forum... I should make a post about it.

[Mykel54]

Probably because she is a set character, unlike Hawke/Warden who can be customised, so there is no song to fit all customizations. It´s easier for the writer to make a song for a character they wrote and they know what they are about, instead of coming up for something for a player character.

 

Also, because Harding will feature in the next DA game - as much as i dislike her, no offense to the actress.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Not everything in the life is solved making post in a forum... I should make a post about it.

Recursive thinking is always fun, ain't it? (Remember to devote a thread to that as well.)

[CardButton]

Trespasser's ending implies that the Hero who romanced Leliana returns soon after, which would only be if the cure was found. The timetable would be the same for all Heroes though.

 

Ult Sac Heroes don't factor in to this.

Well ... not necessarily, but it is a possibility.  

 

The events of Origins took about 1 year or so, add another 6 months for Awakening, the 10 year time skip between that content and DA:I and the 2 year skip for Trespasser, then its only been about 14 years since the beginning of Origins.  Warden's traditionally (give or take a few) about 30 years before the Calling kicks in, so the Warden still has only expended half their time table and has plenty of time to keep searching for a cure and spend some downtime with her LI.  

 

It remains pretty unclear tbh and I have a feeling we wont really get to learn what happened until we get to go to Weisshaupt Fortress. 

[Abyss108]

That's doesn't mean the HoF don't deserve his own song.

The only noticeable thing that Harding did was defending mother Giselle at the start of the game, because if she were killed... nothing... important we should have missed... The only help we needed in the game was from the mages/templars to close the breach.

 

Harding can be replaced any time, the HoF don't.

 

Actually there are 6 people who could have replaced the HoF no matter who you play as. 

 

All Origins happen in the game, the only difference is which character Duncan saves at the end of the Origin. So if Duncan had decided to go to a different location, someone else would have been the HoF.

 

So there are 7 (Amell/Surana is the 7th) characters that could have been HoF.

[Arshei]

Recursive thinking is always fun, ain't it? (Remember to devote a thread to that as well.)

 

Finally someone understand me ♥

 

 

Actually there are 6 people who could have replaced the HoF no matter who you play as. 

 

All Origins happen in the game, the only difference is which character Duncan saves at the end of the Origin. So if Duncan had decided to go to a different location, someone else would have been the HoF.

 

So there are 7 (Amell/Surana is the 7th) characters that could have been HoF.

 

 

I gently invite you to play this jewel

[Abyss108]

The HoF returning doesn't mean they found a cure. They also could have hit a dead end in their search, given up, or just come back for a break.

[jlb524]

If you romanced Leliana in the epilogue they are togheter again, if he/she didn't found the cure then found a way to make it longer, he should be dead.

They could just be together again for the HoF's final months. Heck, the HoF might be half ghoul by now but that's okay, Leliana still loves them.

[Arshei]

The HoF returning doesn't mean they found a cure. They also could have hit a dead end in their search, given up, or just come back for a break.

 

If he was hearing the calling before Inquisition start, and between Inquisition-Trespasser there was 3 years, and then in the epilogue there mention the HoF like if he lived at least one year more that way, I don't think he can survive at least 4 years hearing the calling.

 

 

They could just be together again for the HoF's final months. Heck, the HoF might be half ghoul by now but that's okay, Leliana still loves them.

 

No happy ending then?

I don't think so, if they can do that big fanservice making Cullen a handsome romance, they can make our first character alive.

(Am I supposed to believe in a world in the medieval age with magic time, miniguns, etc that the HoF can't find a simply cure?)

[Abyss108]

Finally someone understand me ♥

 

 

 

I gently invite you to play this jewel

 

Yes, which is if Alistair replaced the HoF. I never said anybody in Thedas could replace them. I just pointed out we know of at least 6 people.

[MisterJB]

Big picture made of little pictures. Too many variables!

[Arshei]

Yes, which is if Alistair replaced the HoF. I never said anybody in Thedas could replace them. I just pointed out we know of at least 6 people.

 

If you like to headcanon that the 6 characters of the origins meet together well, do as you please, but it didn't happened, this is why the whole game Alistair and our character are the only grey wardens who can save the world.

(Why didn't he bring all the characters then?)

[CardButton]

If he was hearing the calling before Inquisition start, and between Inquisition-Trespasser there was 3 years, and then in the epilogue there mention the HoF like if he lived at least one year more that way, I don't think he can survive at least 4 years hearing the calling.

 

 

 

No happy ending then?

I don't think so, if they can do that big fanservice making Cullen a handsome romance, they can make our first character alive.

(Am I supposed to believe in a world in the medieval age with magic time, miniguns, etc that the HoF can't find a simply cure?)

Well its not exactly expected for a Warden to get a happy ending. They live a life of sacrifice after all, its a perfectly normal thing for them to go on into the deeproads and die in battle when their time has come.

 

That being said I feel safe in assuming that the Calling the the HoF was talking about hearing was the false Calling the Corypheus was using to manipulate the Grey Wardens and not their actual Calling, as such it should have dispersed after his death.  HoF should have had at bare minimum 13 years left by the end of Trespasser ... I don't really know why their calling would prematurely activate. 

[Abyss108]

If he was hearing the calling before Inquisition start, and between Inquisition-Trespasser there was 3 years, and then in the epilogue there mention the HoF like if he lived at least one year more that way, I don't think he can survive at least 4 years hearing the calling.

 

 When is it stated they hear the Calling? They should have another 10 years minimum before that happens.

[jlb524]

No happy ending then?
I don't think so, if they can do that big fanservice making Cullen a handsome romance, they can make our first character alive.
(Am I supposed to believe in a world in the medieval age with magic time, miniguns, etc that the HoF can't find a simply cure?)

They don't have measles or whatever but some super powerful evil magic curse taint thing. Not easy to cure.

[Abyss108]

If you like to headcanon that the 6 characters of the origins meet together well, do as you please, but it didn't happened, this is why the whole game Alistair and our character are the only grey wardens who can save the world.

(Why didn't he bring all the characters then?)

 

I never said they met?    Why are inventing random things nobody has said?

 

I pointed out the other 6 characters still exist, no matter what Origin you play. They are referenced in the game. Only 1 of them ever survives depending on where Duncan chooses to go. If Duncan chose to go to one of the other locations, your HoF would have been someone else. Or if Duncan didn't go to any of them, they all die, Alistair takes over, and the Blight isn't stopped.

[Arshei]

 When is it stated they hear the Calling? They should have another 10 years minimum before that happens.

 

 

As I understand from Alistair the HoF was hearing the calling

[Abyss108]

 

As I understand from Alistair the HoF was hearing the calling

 

Those lines only say that someday they will hear it, not that she currently does.

[CardButton]

 

As I understand from Alistair the HoF was hearing the calling

You do realize that he is referring to the Morrigan OGB decision when he is talking about the "Set in Stone" part right?  The fact that neither he nor the HoF needed to die when all of previous Warden tradition stated that it was a requirement that a Warden sacrifice themselves to kill an Archdemon meant that perhaps (somehow) the other rules of Wardenhood may not be so cut and dry.  There may in fact be a way to cure their tainted blood and therefore avoid their calling "The Real One". 

 

Also he in no way mentions that either he or the HoF have started hearing their calling.  Both of them even by the end of Trespasser should have at least 10 years left (I think Allistair was only about a year or two ahead of the HoF). 

[Arshei]

You do realize that he is referring to the Morrigan OGB decision when he is talking about the "Set in Stone" part right?  The fact that neither he nor the HoF needed to die when all of previous Warden tradition stated that it was a requirement that a Warden sacrifice themselves to kill an Archdemon meant that perhaps (somehow) the other rules of Wardenhood may not be so cut and dry.  There may in fact be a way to cure their tainted blood and therefore avoid their calling "The Real One". 

 

Also he in no way mentions that either he or the HoF have started hearing their calling.  Both of them even by the end of Trespasser should have at least 10 years left (I think Allistair was only about a year or two ahead of the HoF). 

 

Oh, she mean to Morrigan?, I thought she was meaning to the guy in the fortress, Avernus

 

Those lines only say that someday they will hear it, not that she currently does.

 

 

Until we don't get information in DA:4 we can't know if the wardens found a cure.

[Abyss108]

Oh, she mean to Morrigan, I tought she was meaning to the guy in the fortress

 

 

 

 

Until we don't get information in DA:4 we can't know if the wardens found a cure.

 

Why are you showing me the same line? That doesn't say the HoF currently hears the Calling. Just that they are looking for a cure because they know they will hear it someday in the future. 

 

They still have a decade left.