Why are you showing me the same line? That doesn't say the HoF currently hears the Calling. Just that they are looking for a cure because they know they will hear it someday in the future.
They still have a decade left.
How you know they have a decade left?
Duncan was hearing the calling and he was a warden during 20 years
And then there is the dialogue of Alistair
How you know they have a decade left?
Duncan was hearing the calling and he was a warden during 20 years
And then there is the dialogue of Alistair
Thats how were estimating. "30 years, give or take ..." so it could be sooner but were giving the number the benefit of the doubt as some Wardens could potentially take longer to succumb to the blight. 30 seems to be framed as the Average.
So it took about 1 year for the events of Origins, then add on (safe side) an additional year for Awakening and Witch Hunt, the decade in between Origins and Inquisition (and an additional year to be safe for the events within game), then 2 more for the years that took place in between DA:I and Trespasser ... its about 15-16 years between the beginning of Origins and the end of "Trespasser".
That would give a range of about 4-5 years to subtract from if I missed anything in that count ... so the assumption would be around a decade left before the HoF and Allistair reach the average of when a Calling really kicks in. 
How you know they have a decade left?
Duncan was hearing the calling and he was a warden during 20 years
And then there is the dialogue of Alistair
CardButton just explained why.
That Alistair dialogue also agrees with what we are saying. 30 years average. So they should hear it in another 10. Could be a bit sooner, could be a bit later, definitely nothing to suggest they hear it now or any time soon.
Never even saw Samson.
How would you know? Samson is brought to Skyhold for trial and I doubt Maryden would miss a trial at Skyhold.
Thats how were estimating. "30 years, give or take ..." so it could be sooner but were giving the number the benefit of the doubt as some Wardens could potentially take longer to succumb to the blight. 30 seems to be framed as the Average.
So it took about 1 year for the events of Origins, then add on (safe side) an additional year for Awakening and Witch Hunt, the decade in between Origins and Inquisition (and an additional year to be safe for the events within game), then 2 more for the years that took place in between DA:I and Trespasser ... its about 15-16 years between the beginning of Origins and the end of "Trespasser".
That would give a range of about 4-5 years to subtract from if I missed anything in that count ... so the assumption would be around a decade left before the HoF and Allistair reach the average of when a Calling really kicks in.
Ugh, all this time... In spanish the part with Alistair says you live until you're thirty, I assumed the warden was 19/20 because of that, and this is why I never found logic that Loghain could be a warden if he is about 50-60
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This still don't remove the fact that he need a song, if he found the cure or not we don't know yet, but I bet they would prefer that the HoF has the cure and that way they could use king Alistair more years.
Well ... not necessarily, but it is a possibility.
The events of Origins took about 1 year or so, add another 6 months for Awakening, the 10 year time skip between that content and DA:I and the 2 year skip for Trespasser, then its only been about 14 years since the beginning of Origins. Warden's traditionally (give or take a few) about 30 years before the Calling kicks in, so the Warden still has only expended half their time table and has plenty of time to keep searching for a cure and spend some downtime with her LI.
It remains pretty unclear tbh and I have a feeling we wont really get to learn what happened until we get to go to Weisshaupt Fortress.
The epilogue (and I realize epilogues are usually garbage) states that the Hero and Leliana are planning for the future and whatever trouble is brewing. So they clearly don't have the Calling to worry about.
Plus, of course the Hero found the cure. He's the Hero.
The HoF returning doesn't mean they found a cure. They also could have hit a dead end in their search, given up, or just come back for a break.
Except that we know that a cure exists (since Fiona was cured), and we also know that Morrigan had solid information about it, as she would not have sent her love and father of their son off on a wild goose chase. And if she drank from the Well she has even more arcane knowledge than she did before, which can then be used to aid the Hero.
He's not going to come all the way back to Thedas for a break. Come on. He's in it to win it!
How would you know? Samson is brought to Skyhold for trial and I doubt Maryden would miss a trial at Skyhold.
Unless you sided with templars, in which case Samson is killed off by Corypheus. I sided with templars.
This still don't remove the fact that he need a song, if he found the cure or not we don't know yet, but I bet they would prefer that the HoF has the cure and that way they could use king Alistair more years.
It's the only possible way they'll get out of the Cousland rule corner they painted themselves into.
Unless you sided with templars, in which case Samson is killed off by Corypheus. I sided with templars.
And? I have brought Samsom to Skyhold several times. Or do you mean that everything in the game should revolve around your specific choices? Hey music team, Grepher is siding with templars so scrap the Samson tune!
And? I have brought Samsom to Skyhold several times. Or do you mean that everything in the game should revolve around your specific choices? Hey music team, Grepher is siding with templars so scrap the Samson tune!
This was all in reply to the argument that Maryden even made a song about Samson, even though in many playthroughs Samson was not even encountered.
All of the HoF's accomplishments were done 10 years ago in a backwater country to combat a problem- the Blight, most of the continent didn't even think really happened. The HoF isn't even the most impressive Warden in Warden history either, people overestimate the importance of Dragon Age main characters, in the context of Thedas and Thedas' history they're all pretty minor.
This was all in reply to the argument that Maryden even made a song about Samson, even though in many playthroughs Samson was not even encountered.
Oh I was wondering that!
So if the villain isn't Samson he still get a song?
THE DAMN LYRIUM ADDICT GET A SONG, and the HoF/Hawke don't?
ESPECIALLY HAWKE, because he is in Skyhold for a while!
All of the HoF's accomplishments were done 10 years ago in a backwater country to combat a problem- the Blight, most of the continent didn't even think really happened. The HoF isn't even the most impressive Warden in Warden history either, people overestimate the importance of Dragon Age main characters, in the context of Thedas and Thedas' history they're all pretty minor.
Can you please tell me who is better than the Inquisitor/HoF?
If you are going to mention Andraste... Well... My inquisitor wasn't burned because she wasn't betrayed by his husband, the same with my Hero of Ferelden.
Andraste did saved the world life Inquisitor?
Or ferelden like HoF?
Hawke isn't impressive because he only saved kirkwall, but he initiated the revolution of the mages.
Oh I was wondering that!
So if the villain isn't Samson he still get a song?
THE DAMN LYRIUM ADDICT GET A SONG, and the HoF/Hawke don't?
ESPECIALLY HAWKE, because he is in Skyhold for a while!
Can you please tell me who is better than the Inquisitor/HoF?
If you are going to mention Andraste... Well... My inquisitor wasn't burned because she wasn't betrayed by his husband, the same with my Hero of Ferelden.
Andraste did saved the world life Inquisitor?
Or ferelden like HoF?
Hawke isn't impressive because he only saved kirkwall, but he initiated the revolution of the mages.
Every Warden in Blights 1-4. Each year of the 4th blight alone outclasses any of the trials and tribulations that the Warden did during the 5th blight. The 5th blight was hilariously weak being barely able to take the second weakest country on the continent. There's the original Wardens that fought and ended 200 years of Blight during the 1st Blight, there's the Wardens who fought the 90 year second blight that engulfed the whole continent like the first blight. The 3rd and 4th blights were much weaker than the 1st and 2nd, but 3 and 4 lasted decades and still wrecked half of Thedas.
Hell, Drakon I's accomplishments alone makes the HoF, Hawke, and the Inquisitor seem comparatively inconsequential.
edit: The Anderfels face darkspawn daily too. It's no wonder the First Warden plays political games when they're the only people responsible keeping the northern darkspawn from spilling south.
Save the world from the blight, defeat the mother, choose the king of Orzzamar, help de Elves/Werewolves, save the Arl Redcliff, Choose the King/Queen of Ferelden, repair the mess in the Circle of Magi, stop Slavery, rescue the queen, avenge king Cailan/or not, find the Paragon Branka, defeat an Archdemon, kill the.. thing... in Golems of Amarrack, and find the cure to the Calling seems enough to me, is more than Cassandra or Leliana ever did.
Wait, what? All that didn't happen a decade ago? ...and, out of curiosity, when did they find the cure for the calling? I thought the Inquisitor put an end to the false calling after falling into the Fade at Adamant. Did I miss the transition from Inquisitor to HoF? Which begs the further question, since my canon HoF is dead, how is she out doing anything? I saw the funeral, and the people of Ferelden burn their dead.
Can you please tell me who is better than the Inquisitor/HoF?
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Except that we know that a cure exists (since Fiona was cured), and we also know that Morrigan had solid information about it, as she would not have sent her love and father of their son off on a wild goose chase. And if she drank from the Well she has even more arcane knowledge than she did before, which can then be used to aid the Hero.
He's not going to come all the way back to Thedas for a break. Come on. He's in it to win it!
Sure, a cure theoretically exists. Though if the Wardens who studied Fiona herself couldn't figure it out, the HoF probably won't.
Morrigan is an idiot, who can become enslaved to her own mother because of the dumb reckless decisions she makes, so yes, I wouldn't put it past her to accidentally send the HoF off on a goose chase. The well has no effect on whether the HoF finds as cure, as they come back regardless.
The fandom complained that the HoF was off on some chase away from their love interest, so I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware did change it simply to let them have a peaceful happy life with their LI. And they still have an entire decade left. They were gone for several years, I don't find it surprising that maybe they wanted to see the people they cared about again after that amount of time.
The HoF may be a little stiff as the years begin to show but the "moves" are still there.
On a meta level, it would be very difficult to write a song about either the Hero of Ferelden or Hawke that referred to them in anything but the most broad and generic terms. For starters, the player can pick their gender, and in the case of the Hero their race as well. The only thing all Wardens definitely did is defeating the Blight - whether or not they lived through, and who they recruited to help them is up to the player. Similarly, a song about Hawke could refer to the Deep Roads expedition, but would have to be vague about what happened with the Arishok and who they sided with in Act III.
Given those parameters, I'm not sure how a song about either of them would have worked.
Sure, a cure theoretically exists. Though if the Wardens who studied Fiona herself couldn't figure it out, the HoF probably won't.
Morrigan is an idiot, who can become enslaved to her own mother because of the dumb reckless decisions she makes, so yes, I wouldn't put it past her to accidentally send the HoF off on a goose chase. The well has no effect on whether the HoF finds as cure, as they come back regardless.
The fandom complained that the HoF was off on some chase away from their love interest, so I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware did change it simply to let them have a peaceful happy life with their LI. And they still have an entire decade left. They were gone for several years, I don't find it surprising that maybe they wanted to see the people they cared about again after that amount of time.
I never understood the point of the cure quest myself. Isseya cured a clutch of Griffons of the taint like... 400 years ago.
I never understood the point of the cure quest myself. Isseya cured a clutch of Griffons of the taint like... 400 years ago.
The point is to shut people up with the "My HOF would run right up and nutpunch Corypheus and win everything in 30 seconds and..."
They needed to stick the Warden on a faraway bus somewhere doing something that sounded plausible enough to actually not be involved in the plot, but also have an point that players would accept. Hence getting cured of your incurable and deadly affliction.
Thats how were estimating. "30 years, give or take ..." so it could be sooner but were giving the number the benefit of the doubt as some Wardens could potentially take longer to succumb to the blight. 30 seems to be framed as the Average.
So it took about 1 year for the events of Origins, then add on (safe side) an additional year for Awakening and Witch Hunt, the decade in between Origins and Inquisition (and an additional year to be safe for the events within game), then 2 more for the years that took place in between DA:I and Trespasser ... its about 15-16 years between the beginning of Origins and the end of "Trespasser".
That would give a range of about 4-5 years to subtract from if I missed anything in that count ... so the assumption would be around a decade left before the HoF and Allistair reach the average of when a Calling really kicks in.
30 years isn't average, 30 years is maximum number of years you can survive until the calling, wardens may have as much as 5 or 10 years before calling after joining as well.
Sure, a cure theoretically exists. Though if the Wardens who studied Fiona herself couldn't figure it out, the HoF probably won't.
Morrigan is an idiot, who can become enslaved to her own mother because of the dumb reckless decisions she makes, so yes, I wouldn't put it past her to accidentally send the HoF off on a goose chase. The well has no effect on whether the HoF finds as cure, as they come back regardless.
The fandom complained that the HoF was off on some chase away from their love interest, so I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware did change it simply to let them have a peaceful happy life with their LI. And they still have an entire decade left. They were gone for several years, I don't find it surprising that maybe they wanted to see the people they cared about again after that amount of time.
Time isn't issue here at least if you spared Avernus and by that you have method that not only will remove 30 yeras max limit but also grants you lifespan twice as maximum for normal human.
The point is to shut people up with the "My HOF would run right up and nutpunch Corypheus and win everything in 30 seconds and..."
They needed to stick the Warden on a faraway bus somewhere doing something that sounded plausible enough to actually not be involved in the plot, but also have an point that players would accept. Hence getting cured of your incurable and deadly affliction.
Ayup, it proved as good a reason as any to have a previously unvoiced (assorted Race) protagonist who may or may not even be alive stay out of the events of Inquisition. They are too important a character (to players) to have a bit part if they did show up and they are too inconsistent in who they are to build a story if they did. :3
Oh I was wondering that!
So if the villain isn't Samson he still get a song?
THE DAMN LYRIUM ADDICT GET A SONG, and the HoF/Hawke don't?
ESPECIALLY HAWKE, because he is in Skyhold for a while!
Can you please tell me who is better than the Inquisitor/HoF?
If you are going to mention Andraste... Well... My inquisitor wasn't burned because she wasn't betrayed by his husband, the same with my Hero of Ferelden.
Andraste did saved the world life Inquisitor?
Or ferelden like HoF?
Hawke isn't impressive because he only saved kirkwall, but he initiated the revolution of the mages.
Well, as I wrote, "I Am the One" is the Hero's song. So, the Hero got a song.
People should realize the Inquisitor wasn't as impressive as people make him out to be. He didn't kill the Nightmare. He didn't end the false Calling right away. He only exposed it as false, which meant that the Wardens knew not to fall for it again. Then I'm sure Cory just stopped using it and the Nightmare since they were no longer effective.
Stopping the demon army was the only real accomplishment other than destroying Corypheus. Though not many knew the circumstances of this. People knew the events of Halamshiral, but overall wasn't that important, and it can be overshadowed by the one who rules Orlais.
Trespasser proves that no one cares about the Inquisitor. At least the Hero has Ferelden on his side, and always will.
Wait, what? All that didn't happen a decade ago? ...and, out of curiosity, when did they find the cure for the calling? I thought the Inquisitor put an end to the false calling after falling into the Fade at Adamant. Did I miss the transition from Inquisitor to HoF? Which begs the further question, since my canon HoF is dead, how is she out doing anything? I saw the funeral, and the people of Ferelden burn their dead.
He exposed the false Calling. He didn't end it. He didn't kill the Nightmare. He eventually ended it by killing Corypheus, though that was more of a side benefit to the actual goal of destroying Corypheus.
The Ult Sac Hero has a tomb at Weisshaupt as a monument to his life. Since we will probably visit Weisshaupt in DA4, the Hero's tomb should be accessible. In which case the tomb should reflect the custom character and be relevant to that character's backstory.
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