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IF Andromeda were to use Inquisition as a template, what should it do to make it great?


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Linkenski

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I'm sorry, but I'm assuming people generally find Inquisition mediocre lol, but for the sake of the argument I hope you can go with it.

 

Imagine ME:A uses DA:I's systems except the combat, no war-map and all the obvious things that belong to Dragon Age that won't be in Mass Effect. Just imagine ME:A is something that has the same side-quest system, the same open-world structure and same companion/dialogue systems as DA:I as an outset to its development.

 

If that was true, what would need to be improved or changed to make it the game you want?


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Laughing_Man

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No, just no. I have no desire to see ME:I, nor any noticeable influence from DA:I, no if or but.


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Side content in general would need an overhaul.

Possibly less but certainly better.

 

'Viewer camera' on non-animated conversations needs significant work.

 

That ME will 'share' elements of the DAI experience (being on the same engine) is surely a certainty.


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They will probably use a game like Red Faction Guerilla as a template for their semi open world driving/shooting gameplay & for the main story missions expect some more linear levels that focus on pacing + big set pieces.

 

A fusion of Red Faction & ME3 is what I'm expecting with some tweaks here & there to the combat & Mako driving sections.

 

One of the things I'm sceptical of is how will they design their Cover based Shooting to feel good in Big open areas. If the combat is just an improved ME3 they would either have to have chest hign walls every where (Very silly concept especially on uncharted worlds) or make it like ME2 hammer head where you go into shooting corridors or hub areas whenever you exit the vehicle.

 

Unless they made it so you don't have to stick to cover all the time in combat I don't think ME3 style shooting would play well in open areas.

 

Other than that expect everything to feel the same as previous ME games.  



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NOTHING. To be original and not a copy/paste of a mediocre title.



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Dragon Age: Inquisition is not mediocre. It's a great game with some weak points.
 


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In order to make a great game using Inquisition as a template, they should scrap the game and find a new template.
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Dragon Age: Inquisition is not mediocre. It's a great game with some weak points.

 

Great game? The only thing I can agree that is actually very good about this game is the world graphics. (very much like SW:Battlefront)

 

The rest is either mediocre or bad, with some "okay" parts.


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DA:I has a good narrative that pulls you through the game, I'd like that again.  ME1's 'go to any planet you like first' system is great for choice, but you don't experience the repercussions of your actions as all those planets are essentially in stasis until you get there.  Same with DA:O.  

In Inquisition your previous actions are referenced in later quests, there's a sense that time has moved on.  Also of being a nobody, then building an Inquisition, getting more successful and powerful as time goes on, and earning your stripes by the end.

 

However let's cut the ludicrous amount of zones, either cutting each by 30% or just losing some altogether.

 

I personally would like more chunky side quests, like ME3, that have more of a role in the story.  It would be great to have 2 crises at once and you're forced to choose.  Whichever you chose the other will get worse by the time you get there, and vise versa.  That would add replay value.

So I guess I'm asking for the linear storytelling of ME3 and DA:I, with some more freedom added in the side quests.

 

The companions were great, romances were great, the only thing I'd add is more chances to dislike ppl and for them to dislike you.  If I'm a terrible Inquisitor let Cullen and Leliana regret their decision to pick me.  Let me dislike Garrus, or Liara, or Anderson, and that dislike lead to a cutscene or extra dialogue.  Not just 'I don't like you so I'm leaving the mission, even though the world is ending and I should probably stay and help...'.  :huh:

 

Let me be pro-Cerberus and hate the Alliance for imprisoning me, let me be a bad Inquisitor or a selfish one.  I don't want to be railroaded into being Space Jesus again.


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Laughing_Man

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...I don't want to be railroaded into being Space Jesus again.

 

Yeah, about that...



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Throw out everything out and use some actual good ideas instead of stuff that seems to have been picked from some terrible MMO.


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Limit the number of mmo styled fetch quests, more indepth story for side content, better enemy ai, reduced enemy spawn rates, less static npcs and city hubs, environmental effects like swaying foliage, weather effects, a day night cycle, more variation in armor design, and ease up with the fugly hairstyles. There's more but i'll save that for later.


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I love Inquisition.... I've had 4 playthroughs and have a platinum trophy on my PS4 for it. I'm sad that a lot of people find it mediocre. I know it has it's faults but I can't help but be sad when people bash on it because I sunk so much wonderful time into it!

 

  • They need to expand character creation. More hairstyles, PLEASE. 
  • I heard somewhere in the Twitter thread that they're borrowing the War Table/ advisors thing, and that's ok with me. 
  • Obviously, since it's a shooter, I expect the button mechanics to be more complex than just "hold R2 to constantly attack and tap another button for another skill." I know that turned a few of my friends off, who went to Shadow of Mordor instead. 
  • Their companion character complexities are excellent, I want them to take that and make it even greater. 
  • The villain / overall threat needs to be a bit more threatening. I found Corypheus to be a bit boring, but dragons made me more anxious. :D 
  • Quests need to be less fetch-y and more meaningful. 
  • They need a better voice actor for the male protagonist. 

 

I'm sure I'll think of more! 


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Hopefully absolutely nothing apart from characters like Cassandra and Dorian.
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I don't want to be railroaded into being Space Jesus again.

Come on, everyone wants to be space Jesus. I think Bioware could stand to have a more grounded protagonist. Make it abit more personal, but with a greater overall threat looming. I think Mass Effect 2 did it perfectly, and that is why its my favourite of the franchise, so far.

 

On topic - Don't assume that everyone finds DA:I to be mediocre, i certainly do not. It is a great game, but it does indeed have flaws, like every game has. 


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ArcadiaGrey

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Come on, everyone wants to be space Jesus.  

 

I'm happy to be an all round good guy most of the time, but second or third playthrough I want to be a selfish s.o.b.  :P


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Obliviousmiss

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^ Space Devil?


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I suspect there was a lot of experience exchange between two teams and when DA:I was released it was too late change anything major. So I'd expect a lot of empty-MMO sidequests with stupid fetching and gathering hundreds of 'shards' to get some +1 upgrade. I just hope main plot and combat will compensate that.

 I don't want to be railroaded into being Space Jesus again.

Good news then, you're gonna be Space Noah/Moses.


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The only thing I would take from DAI would be the dialogue wheel


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Good news then, you're gonna be Space Noah/Moses.

If you're Paragon, maybe. Renegade gets to be space Muhammad and conquer the natives.


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What should it do to make it great? Simple. DO NOT USE IT AS A TEMPLATE!



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KaiserShep

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Dragon Age: Inquisition is not mediocre. It's a great game with some weak points.



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Dragon Age: Inquisition is not mediocre. It's a great game with some weak points.
 

Nah. It's a weak game with great moments, not a great game with weak moments.


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Dragon Age: Inquisition is not mediocre. It's a great game with some weak points.
 

 

It's more like a weak game with some great points IMO.


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Great game? The only thing I can agree that is actually very good about this game is the world graphics. (very much like SW:Battlefront)

 

The rest is either mediocre or bad, with some "okay" parts.

 

That is your opinion, In my opinion DA:I was a great game overall. It's better than Skyrim, Fallout 4, and The Witcher 2.  


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