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[TheKomandorShepard]

Corypheus can restrain the corruption from Red Templars as the Architect can from Seranni and Utah, your point with Grey Wardens is invalid because they fall to the taint regardless what, so they might be more resilient but their ultimate fate it's the same and it's unavoidable, none Warden has naturally survived the taint (and with naturally I mean that magical solutions like Fiona or Avernus do not count) so yeah, Corypheus might be stronger (and have to keep in mind that he uses Red Lyrium) but he wouldn't have exclusive abilities since he is the same species as the others.

Corypheus can manipulate red lyrium and Red Templars aren't the same as Ghouls , so once again you try take something with similarities and pose as the same thing.Also , why you are telling me irrelevant facts, once again effect of the joining aren't the same on every organism as some people die and some people become grey wardens, so your staement about one person dying to radiation and another gaining super powers thanks to radiation is in fact a thing in a finction. That they are same species (darkspawn) once again isn't prove that they have same powers as being human in dragon age doesn't mean you will be a mage because another human is a mage.

[Andromelek]

Corypheus can manipulate red lyrium and Red Templars aren't the same as Ghouls , so once again you try take something with similarities and pose as the same thing.Also , why you are telling me irrelevant facts, once again effect of the joining aren't the same on every organism as some people die and some people become grey wardens, so your staement about one person dying to radiation and another gaining super powers thanks to radiation is in fact a thing in a finction. That they are same species (darkspawn) once again isn't prove that they have same powers as being human in dragon age doesn't mean you will be a mage because another human is a mage.

Do you even read? (The argument on radiation wasn't on the last post by the way) First both Ghouls and Red Templars have the taint, the Red Lyrium basically has steroids in comparison to the ordinary taint but then Corypheus infused himself on Red Lyrium by DAI, second I'm saying that Wardens still die due the taint, so, resistance is a thing, but having completely exclusive skills (that is your statement of Corypheus being the only able to body jump to another tainted being) is just not possible as all the magisters were humans, the reason of their difference with the ordinary darkspawn is the way they were exposed to the Blight, but since it's the same among each of them then they would earn the same problems and advantages that the Blight might cause, to different degree, yes, but ultimately they wouldn't have any exclusive trait.

Edit: Have to point out that you are not using correctly the term of "fanfiction" is fiction what you mean, being "fanfiction" would require that the fandom would be the group that exclusively or predominantly write that stuff.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Do you even read? (The argument on radiation wasn't on the last post by the way) First both Ghouls and Red Templars have the taint, the Red Lyrium basically has steroids in comparison to the ordinary taint but then Corypheus infused himself on Red Lyrium by DAI, second I'm saying that Wardens still die due the taint, so, resistance is a thing, but having completely exclusive skills (that is your statement of Corypheus being the only able to body jump to another tainted being) is just not possible as all the magisters were humans, the reason of their difference with the ordinary darkspawn is the way they were exposed to the Blight, but since it's the same among each of them then they would earn the same problems and advantages that the Blight might cause, to different degree, yes, but ultimately they wouldn't have any exclusive trait.

Edit: Have to point out that you are not using correctly the term of "fanfiction" is fiction what you mean, being "fanfiction" would require that the fandom would be the group that exclusively or predominantly write that stuff.

 

Yes i do read, sadly you don't otherwise you would know why i was refering to your argument on radiation that you tried move away from by throwing unrelated facts. First of all once again just because taint is thing they have in common doesn't mean they are the same beings, because they aren't Red templars and Ghouls are different kind of beings that show different characteristics you can read it on wiki page for red Templars.

 

Two, you are wrong wardens don't die because of taint (well they do , but only as part of suicide ritual) grey wardens turn into ghouls because of it, also we were talking about joining not the calling and its different effects on different organisms what was to point that your argument about "radiation" logic being wrong was wrong.  

 

What kind of insane logic you are trying to apply here and why you are ignoring everything i say? Basically , you say that Architect and Corypheus have same abilities because they were humans , once again if you listened to me just because they were humans doesn't mean they have the same abilities when they turned into darkspawn just like being human doesn't being mage just because another human is a mage (once again i have to use same argument second time).And once again false Architect didn't have same abilities that Corypheus had like ability to imitate calling and control darkspawn and grey wardens , same pretty much for ability to body jump that would make a lot things architect did plainly stupid. 

 

I didn't meant write fanfiction only fiction just misspelled finction instead fiction.

[Andromelek]

Yes i do read, sadly you don't otherwise you would know why i was refering to your argument on radiation that you tried move away from by throwing unrelated facts. First of all once again just because taint is thing they have in common doesn't mean they are the same beings, because they aren't Red templars and Ghouls are different kind of beings that show different characteristics you can read it on wiki page for red Templars.
 
Two, you are wrong wardens don't die because of taint (well they do , but only as part of suicide ritual) grey wardens turn into ghouls because of it, also we were talking about joining not the calling and its different effects on different organisms what was to point that your argument about "radiation" logic being wrong was wrong.  
 
What kind of insane logic you are trying to apply here and why you are ignoring everything i say? Basically , you say that Architect and Corypheus have same abilities because they were humans , once again if you listened to me just because they were humans doesn't mean they have the same abilities when they turned into darkspawn just like being human doesn't being mage just because another human is a mage (once again i have to use same argument second time).And once again false Architect didn't have same abilities that Corypheus had like ability to imitate calling and control darkspawn and grey wardens , same pretty much for ability to body jump that would make a lot things architect did plainly stupid. 
 
I didn't meant write fanfiction only fiction just misspelled finction instead fiction.

You are conveniently disregarding points on my argument, once more they were hit by the same curse, and yes part of the argument is that they're both humans, would've been a qunari or an elven mage or even a regular human and a mage I would believe they have an entirely different bag of tricks, but they are both humans and no codex entry has stated that Sethius was any special from the others aside of the Old God he represented.

Again the taint corrupts and the Joining consists on drinking tainted blood with a magical treatment, so it's nothing but resistance, same happens without the ritual some dudes can become darkspawn and others like Felix just die, none of the outcomes allows them to resist the corruption or keeping conscience after falling to the Blight (with the exception of plot armored characters), therefore, if Corypheus and the Architect resisted the conversion why would one have completely different sack of skills from the other? One could be stronger, no doubt, but he wouldn't have anything exclusive and even less have more than one exclusive skill.

And how the hell things the Architect did would be stupid if he had same skills? The dude has been awaken all the time and has a severe case of amnesia, while Corypheus was sleeping (and the fake calling skill first manifested as an involuntary reflex) and he keeps most of his memories, beside how any of them would know of the body jumping skill prior to be slain? It's something on their nature, not a planned trick like Flemeth's, Varric states that the Wardens could have tried to kill Corypheus but were unable to do so, since Corypheus doesn't have amnesia, he wouldn't ignore such thing, the Architect on the other hand has never been endangered prior to Awakening, so he might not be aware of such skill, he doesn't have interest on ruling the Darkspawn nor he has been sealed away like Corypheus, which would explain why he doesn't command them very often.

There is also a codex entry on DAI in which a dwarf claims that a kind and tall talking darkspawn rescued him and fed him, I don't remember if there was a date but assuming that those dwarves were part of the mining operation that the carta had then such encounter didn't happen long ago.

[TheKomandorShepard]

You are conveniently disregarding points on my argument, once more they were hit by the same curse, and yes part of the argument is that they're both humans, would've been a qunari or an elven mage or even a regular human and a mage I would believe they have an entirely different bag of tricks, but they are both humans and no codex entry has stated that Sethius was any special from the others aside of the Old God he represented.

Again the taint corrupts and the Joining consists on drinking tainted blood with a magical treatment, so it's nothing but resistance, same happens without the ritual some dudes can become darkspawn and others like Felix just die, none of the outcomes allows them to resist the corruption or keeping conscience after falling to the Blight (with the exception of plot armored characters), therefore, if Corypheus and the Architect resisted the conversion why would one have completely different sack of skills from the other? One could be stronger, no doubt, but he wouldn't have anything exclusive and even less have more than one exclusive skill.

And how the hell things the Architect did would be stupid if he had same skills? The dude has been awaken all the time and has a severe case of amnesia, while Corypheus was sleeping (and the fake calling skill first manifested as an involuntary reflex) and he keeps most of his memories, beside how any of them would know of the body jumping skill prior to be slain? It's something on their nature, not a planned trick like Flemeth's, Varric states that the Wardens could have tried to kill Corypheus but were unable to do so, since Corypheus doesn't have amnesia, he wouldn't ignore such thing, the Architect on the other hand has never been endangered prior to Awakening, so he might not be aware of such skill, he doesn't have interest on ruling the Darkspawn nor he has been sealed away like Corypheus, which would explain why he doesn't command them very often.

There is also a codex entry on DAI in which a dwarf claims that a kind and tall talking darkspawn rescued him and fed him, I don't remember if there was a date but assuming that those dwarves were part of the mining operation that the carta had then such encounter didn't happen long ago.

 

I didn't disregard it in im pretty sure i did addressed already it already twice , once again that they are humans doesn't mean they are the same, humans differ between each other as well, thus being human doesn't not mean for example becoming grey warden just because another human became grey warden.

 

Yes it is matter of resistance that differs in differents organisms so resultat are different for other organisms, also yes ghoul can maintain consciousness as for example Ruck or even to extent Tamlen proved.Corypheus and architect weren't normal ghouls despite his origin as human, corypheus and architect were more darkspawn more peculiarly unique darkspawn emissary so pretty much whatever caused his transformation wasn't just normal exposure to the blight. Why the would have different ability becuase transformation that Corypheus went through could have went differently and different effects on Architect body.

 

Oh god , i won't repeat myself again because i said it so many times here (hell we even had this discussion here) most of things are in post #21 and some rest is in my post with response to your comment about post #21. First of all we had discussions already Corypheus was able to imitate calling even after he awakened as Solas states it was his power. Corypheus could use his body jumping ability manually (or in first place it was manual) as shown in Legacy what shows that was something he could do by himself and if Architect had same ability one would expect he would know he can transfer.Corypheus also could control darkspawn and grey wardens already around times of first blight and it something he could do naturally even when asleep , so if architect had the same ability it would be obvious he would be using one.Also Architect did command darkspawn just not through the blight like Corypheus only through fear what is another pretty clear indication he doesn't have same ability that Corypheus have.

 

You mean this? It says it is quite old about 20 years old, what means it was before origins and considering that dwarf speaks about story that was told him by his grandfather about his own grandfather event took place long time before that was written in journal.

[Secret Rare]

Corypheus could use his body jumping ability manually (or in first place it was manual) as shown in Legacy what shows that was something he could do by himself and if Architect had same ability one would expect he would know he can transfer.

Why should he?

From what i remember The Architect lost his memories  so it is possible that his soul can body jump without him knowing of his own ability.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

Why should he?

From what i remember The Architect lost his memories  so it is possible that his soul can body jump without him knowing of his own ability.

 

Because Corypheus was body jumping consciously, if i recall correctly there is no evidence that his ability was automatic while we know he bodyjumps on his own, So architect would have to know about it otherwise he wouldn't be able to use it.

[Secret Rare]

Because Corypheus was body jumping consciously, if i recall correctly there is no evidence that his ability was automatic while we know he bodyjumps on his own, So architect would have to know about it otherwise he wouldn't be able to use it.

There is no certainty that it not works also on automatism.

[TheKomandorShepard]

There is no certainty that it not works also on automatism.

Sure , but then Corypheus wouldn't need to do that manually before he died and that still leaves question why Architect didn't possessed the warden or his companions if he had ability to do that and all that while there is no evidence to support it is done automatically.There is also fact architect didn't had same abilities that Corypheus had.

[Secret Rare]

Sure , but then Corypheus wouldn't need to do that manually before he died and that still leaves question why Architect didn't possessed the warden or his companions if he had ability to do that and all that while there is no evidence to support it is done automatically.There is also fact architect didn't had same abilities that Corypheus had.

When Corypheus did it manually?  

In legacy his eyes just glowed before of the soul transfer it still could be viewed as an instinctive reflection of his body when he is near to die.

The Architect may had once the ability to fake the calling but he may have forgot how to do that , if he did not know to have it of course he couldn't use it against the warden.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

When Corypheus did it manually?  

In legacy his eyes just glowed before of the soul transfer it still could be viewed as an instinctive reflection of his body when he is near to die.

The Architect may had once the ability to fake the calling but he may have forgot how to do that , if he did not know to have it of course he couldn't use it against the warden.

 

In legacy he did it manually before even Hawke killed him and we can see grey warden in background getting possessed if that was automatic he would transfer after his death and end in Bethany or Carver body. Corypheus could have use his ability to imitate calling even unconsciously so there wasn't much philosophy to it , if Architect had such ability he would quickly figure it out as it would come naturally.

[Andromelek]

Again, there is a huge difference between being superior on some aspect and have a complete set of mary sueish abilities for no reason, that is why I said the Joining was irrelevant here, it just shows different levels of resistance, not immunity nor any special and exclusive ability on any individual.

In legacy he did it manually before even Hawke killed him and we can see grey warden in background getting possessed if that was automatic he would transfer after his death and end in Bethany or Carver body. Corypheus could have use his ability to imitate calling even unconsciously so there wasn't much philosophy to it , if Architect had such ability he would quickly figure it out as it would come naturally.

Solas said Corypheus might have no distance limits on his ability, that means it is automatic, he doesn't know the exact location of the other tainted beings, he didn't see coming the explosion of the orb, the Wardens he knew were near to him were killed, so his ability is jump to the closest tainted being he could have learned to control it but it seems to be originally automatic, as for the Legacy part he could have possessed Carver/Bethany or Anders, but then there would be a plot hole since no companion has ever died on a DLC that is not an epilogue.

And I have to repeat myself, the Architect has amnesia and he hasn't be killed before, why he would know of such skill? Regarding control over the darkspawn again he doesn't want to rule them (yes he sometimes commands them but without messing with their "free will" and they fear him for his nature not because he is temperamental and bossy) Corypheus himself makes no use of that ability on DAI, either he can't while awake or he just doesn't want the darkspawn on his army.

[sjsharp2011]

Yeah, if the corruption affected everything with even the slightest exposure, the Inquisitor would have never survived being lifted up by Corypheus during the attack on Haven. Nor would it be possible for anyone to travel through the Deep Roads without immediately dying.

 

It probably requires either getting some of their blood in your system or prolonged skin contact with darkspawn or an already tainted object.

 

 

Except that other devs have also said that the Architect was supposed to appear in Inquisition during HLTA before it was changed, suggesting that his ultimate fate is still in play at least among the writers. While Gaider's word does have some clout, remember that Weekes can easily Joss this as the new head writer.

 

The Architect having the same ability as Corypheus and the Archdemons to soul surf into another tainted host would be one means to have him survive Awakening if you killed him. Since his death can take place in a giant darkspawn lair (and baby factory), as well as alongside several Wardens, it's not like there was a shortage of tainted individuals running around for him to hop into.

 

If Utha survived the fight as well, she would probably be the best bet for how to handwave his death, since as a ghoulified Warden, she has the strongest corruption of anyone in proximity at the time of the Architect's death.

 

If the Archect doesn't have the same ability as Corpyheus, one explanation could be that whatever transformed them struck one of them first and then radiated out to the others (an event which is depicted on one of the murals at Skyhold). As their leader, Corypheus being the first one affected and it passing through him and into the others, might be why he'd have some unique abilities.

 

But I personally don't see how the Architect wouldn't have that ability, since as one of the Seven, he was right there with Corypheus when they were all transformed and they are both the same type of unique darkspawn, so wouldn't they have the exact same abilities as each other?

Yeah exactly it's the darkspawn blood that carries the taint that's why Grey wardens use it in order to recruit moer of them touching the skin is no problem as long as no one drinks the blood. Otherwise the warden would never have used ordinary soldiers against the darkspawn to fight the blight in the first place

[TheKomandorShepard]

Again, there is a huge difference between being superior on some aspect and have a complete set of mary sueish abilities for no reason, that is why I said the Joining was irrelevant here, it just shows different levels of resistance, not immunity nor any special and exclusive ability on any individual.

Solas said Corypheus might have no distance limits on his ability, that means it is automatic, he doesn't know the exact location of the other tainted beings, he didn't see coming the explosion of the orb, the Wardens he knew were near to him were killed, so his ability is jump to the closest tainted being he could have learned to control it but it seems to be originally automatic, as for the Legacy part he could have possessed Carver/Bethany or Anders, but then there would be a plot hole since no companion has ever died on a DLC that is not an epilogue.

And I have to repeat myself, the Architect has amnesia and he hasn't be killed before, why he would know of such skill? Regarding control over the darkspawn again he doesn't want to rule them (yes he sometimes commands them but without messing with their "free will" and they fear him for his nature not because he is temperamental and bossy) Corypheus himself makes no use of that ability on DAI, either he can't while awake or he just doesn't want the darkspawn on his army.

 

And who here talks about "mary sueish abilities" and i assume you mean Corypheus with that , joining was nothing more than my argument on your that supposedly  radiation ,dying and super powers thing was wrong , what i in fact i proved to be valid logic and rule used in ficton.

 

He can sense grey wardens and another darkspawn if he shares same ability that grey wardens and another darkspawn do , what is likely considering he can control grey wardens beyond his line of sight.How he couldn't see explosion coming out of the orb if he was there next to the orb and was in same room trying to grab it? From where you take his ability to body jump was originally automatic?Plot hole is hardly in-universe explanation as why Corypheus didn't end possessing one of wardens that were closer if his ability was automatic , and if architect had same ability why then he didn't possessed automatically the warden or his/her companion.

 

You realize i literally have answered this in exact post you have quoted, that shows you aren't even trying.Architect himself thinks that darkspawn outside disciples have no free will so it doesn't make any sense especially that control of such darkspawn would have help him in his plan (same for grey wardens) that he was shown to be ruthless in pursuing his goals.He does make use of his ability only he used it on grey wardens in different ways, why he didn't use darkspawn possibly he didn't want Thedas to unite against him (as he can't control entire horde like archdemon) but that is just my guess , Architect in contrast to Corypheus in fact used darkspawn.

[Sifr]

In legacy he did it manually before even Hawke killed him and we can see grey warden in background getting possessed if that was automatic he would transfer after his death and end in Bethany or Carver body. Corypheus could have use his ability to imitate calling even unconsciously so there wasn't much philosophy to it , if Architect had such ability he would quickly figure it out as it would come naturally.

 

You are forgetting that by the point of Hawke landing the killing blow, Corypheus was pretty much dead already.

 

Even darkspawn Magisters or Archdemons cannot be hit with that many crossbow bolts, arrows, stab wounds and magic and expect to survive. When we see his eyes briefly go dark, that was his body instinctively seeking out another viable host for his consciousness to jump into, so all Hawke was left to land the killing blow to was an empty vessel.

 

The most likely reason Corypheus ended up in Janeka/Larius is because they were the most heavily tainted individuals in proximity.

 

Larius had been a Warden for decades, undergone his Calling and become a ghoul, while Janeka is stated as being a Senior Warden, which based on the WA holding that rank in Inquisition seems to require at least a decade (or more) experience. In comparison, Anders, Carver and Bethany all became Wardens as most within the last six or seven years, so the corruption isn't nearly as strong within them.

 

The only time we ever see Corypheus or the Archdemons use the ability however is when they are dead or dying, which would suggest it's an entirely instinctual response and not something they have any control over. If they did, you'd suspect that the Archdemon (that seems to have some degree of intelligence) would purposefully try to avoid jumping into Warden hosts altogether.

 

As for why Corypheus can jump into Wardens when Archdemons can't, I've speculated elsewhere that the soul idea is bogus and it's actually due to the Grey Wardens using a drop of Archdemon blood in the Joining. Because the Archdemon is attempting to possess an someone already seeming to contain an Archdemon inside it, the result is mutual annihilation because the vessel cannot handle it and dies. Without any Archdemon demon blood to present such a problem, Corypheus and the other Magisters are not opposed by the same restriction and thus can take over Grey Warden hosts with impunity.

 

The only problem with this theory is how does the Archdemon-infused blood of Wardens does not lead to similar problems for Corypheus in their bodies? The only solution I can think of is that Corypheus altering the body of his hosts also changes their blood, something that does happen when Archdemons take over regular darkspawn.

 

(Course, this is mostly just speculation based on bits and pieces of lore we know, so feel free to take some of it with a grain of salt)

[Secret Rare]

I don't think the drop of archdemon blood has anything to do with their weackness against the GW.
The Archdemon blood it is used to improve the potency of the joining but it is not even fundamental to create GW.
They can't jump on GW either because their soul is different in nature from the one of the magisters or because their ability is less effective because it was not gained from the black city.

[Sifr]

I don't think the drop of archdemon blood has anything to do with their weackness against the GW.
The Archdemon blood it is used to improve the potency of the joining but it is not even fundamental to create GW.
They can't jump on GW either because their soul is different in nature from the one of the magisters or because their ability is less effective because it was not gained from the black city.

 

Apparently the drop of Archdemon blood primes it, so I always took that to mean it was a key ingredient. But you're right, the lore's a little vague on iffy whether or not it's actually needed and in a pinch,regular darkspawn blood will work just as well.

 

I think you're right that the Seven Magisters getting tainted in the Black City makes them more closely connected to the source of whatever is behind it, so they naturally have far more power over it than the Archdemons and regular darkspawn.

[TheKomandorShepard]

You are forgetting that by the point of Hawke landing the killing blow, Corypheus was pretty much dead already.

 

Even darkspawn Magisters or Archdemons cannot be hit with that many crossbow bolts, arrows, stab wounds and magic and expect to survive. When we see his eyes briefly go dark, that was his body instinctively seeking out another viable host for his consciousness to jump into, so all Hawke was left to land the killing blow to was an empty vessel.

 

The most likely reason Corypheus ended up in Janeka/Larius is because they were the most heavily tainted individuals in proximity.

 

Larius had been a Warden for decades, undergone his Calling and become a ghoul, while Janeka is stated as being a Senior Warden, which based on the WA holding that rank in Inquisition seems to require at least a decade (or more) experience. In comparison, Anders, Carver and Bethany all became Wardens as most within the last six or seven years, so the corruption isn't nearly as strong within them.

 

The only time we ever see Corypheus or the Archdemons use the ability however is when they are dead or dying, which would suggest it's an entirely instinctual response and not something they have any control over. If they did, you'd suspect that the Archdemon (that seems to have some degree of intelligence) would purposefully try to avoid jumping into Warden hosts altogether.

 

As for why Corypheus can jump into Wardens when Archdemons can't, I've speculated elsewhere that the soul idea is bogus and it's actually due to the Grey Wardens using a drop of Archdemon blood in the Joining. Because the Archdemon is attempting to possess an someone already seeming to contain an Archdemon inside it, the result is mutual annihilation because the vessel cannot handle it and dies. Without any Archdemon demon blood to present such a problem, Corypheus and the other Magisters are not opposed by the same restriction and thus can take over Grey Warden hosts with impunity.

 

The only problem with this theory is how does the Archdemon-infused blood of Wardens does not lead to similar problems for Corypheus in their bodies? The only solution I can think of is that Corypheus altering the body of his hosts also changes their blood, something that does happen when Archdemons take over regular darkspawn.

 

(Course, this is mostly just speculation based on bits and pieces of lore we know, so feel free to take some of it with a grain of salt)

 

Corypheus wasn't dead just injured, if process was instinctive it doubt it would operate on many variables and would just possess nearest victim like Archdemon.Actually Archdemon can survive quite a lot fall from the sky and then pretty much being loaded with arrows and then go battle with HoF like it was nothing, and even then Archdemon don't bodyjump when still alive only when killed (of course, i shouldn't compare archdemon bodyjump to Corypheus one as they are vastly different) . 

 

Corypheus doesn't seem have limit on his abilitiy or at least it have huge range so why process would seek most tained individual and why it would chose Janeka if it can chose more tained people because i doubt that process in itself can chose between complex variables.

 

Corypheus and Archdemon ability and their abilities over all differ quite a lot, as you pointed Corypheus can bodyjump into grey wardens and bodyjumps before his death ,Archdemon only bodyjumps into warden if killed by one (otherwise transfers to the the nearest darkspawn) and when killed not before. When it comes to Corypheus other abilities Corypheus can control grey warden when Archdemon can't while Corypheus can't control darkspawn on such scale like Archdemon.

[Secret Rare]

Corypheus wasn't dead just injured

I can easily interpret the scene in a different way,what Hawke killed was an empty sack already in proximity to death,of course the soul needs to flee before of death otherwise it would not be cheated

[TheKomandorShepard]

I can easily interpret the scene in a different way,what Hawke killed was an empty sack already in proximity to death,of course the soul needs to flee before of death otherwise it would not be cheated

Being injured ≠ Death , Corypheus was still alive and not in state of dying (though he was about to be killed by Hawke) when he possessed grey warden.Not rly , Archdemon first is killed then its soul is transfered , changing body in archdemon case occurs after death not before. 

[Secret Rare]

Being injured ≠ Death , Corypheus was still alive and not in state of dying (though he was about to be killed by Hawke) when he possessed grey warden.Not rly , Archdemon first is killed then its soul is transfered , changing body in archdemon case occurs after death not before. 

If he could control that ability at any time and manually there was literally no reason for him to not defeat both Carver,Bethany and Anders with it instead to fight against them, and no i was not talking about the Archdemon.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

If he could control that ability at any time and manually there was literally no reason for him to not defeat both Carver,Bethany and Anders with it instead to fight against them, and no i was not talking about the Archdemon.

 

If he did that, then he would expose his ability i don't know about you but i would prefer to keep it secret, then i would prefer weaken my target first and potentially use host when im about to die, and then there is that guy was confused as he awakened from sleep. I know you weren't talking about archdemon but you were talking about transferring being imposible after death what i pointed to be false with archdemon as an example of that.  

[Secret Rare]

If he did that, then he would expose his ability i don't know about you but i would prefer to keep it secret, then i would prefer weaken my target first and potentially use host when im about to die,

OK,so it has to do of the fact that he didn't even cared to kill Hawke just to escape since i remember his line

"If i cannot go with you,i will go thru you"

[ModernAcademic]

I remember darkspawn tainting EVERYTHING they touched....

 

How would 'tending his injuries' have worked? "Stay there darling, let me just take my taint-proof gloves!"

 

And before anyone says "MAGIC!" (which could've actually been a legit answer for once) how would an Emissary know magic to heal humans?

 

Why don't you ask the devs? It was them who made the game and the Codex, after all.

[ModernAcademic]

^But it documents a time before Awakening took place.
 

 

The Codex only appears if you choose to spare the Architect in the Dragon Age Keep. Therefore, it takes place after Awakening.