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[Christy]

What kind of background would you like for your next Dragon Age protagonist to have? As much as I like my human nobles and mages from the Circle of Magi, I'd love to try something completely new.

 

My suggestions are as follows (the first two being my favorites):

* A barbarian, a hero from a Chasind or Avvar tribe. I've always wanted to play as a viking-ish warrior badass. The Chasind might also be interesting in regards to magic with their shamanistic traditions.

 

* A Tevinter slave. It could potentially be a great underdog story. We've already been impoverished and oppressed as city elves and casteless dwarves, but never have we been the "property" of someone.

 

* A magister apprentice. An apprentice because I prefer playing characters my own age (21), and being a magister in your early twenties might be too much of an "overpowered" origin.

 

* An assassin. Possibly an Antivan Crow?

 

I hope we get a different opening depending on the choices we made for the character like we did with DAO. It really made me connect with my character. I knew instantly what would motivate my character because of her origin. If we don't get different opening sequences though, it would at least be good to have race and background matter quite a bit throughout the game. The race specific dialogue in Inquisition I liked a lot, but I was missing something, maybe a personal mission.

Your thoughts? :-)

[daveliam]

Since we're going to be in Tevinter, I suspect that, if we have racial options again, we'll be a slave.  Unless they do origins again.  Life is a little too drastically different because of the castes in Tevinter for them to have it be different for different race/class combos.

 

I suspect they'll select a generic backstory umbrella where we'll be a slave regardless of race/class.  But then the backstory will be different for different combinations.  The only one that I'm not sure about is the dwarf backstory.  There aren't any dwarven slaves in Tevinter, iirc, so they'd have to do something different.  Maybe an indentured servitude connected with the Ambassadoria?  Not really sure.

 

If they do do different backgrounds (origins) for the race/class combos, I'd like to see the following:

• Human warrior/rogue - Non-magical child in a magister family
• Human mage - Laetan class -- first mage in the family (apprentice to a magister)
• Elf warrior/rogue - slave/gladiator
• Elf mage - magical child in a slave family -- now serving as apprentice to a magister
• Dwarf warrior/rogue - Bodyguard for a member of the Ambassadoria (warrior caste)
• Qunari warrior/rogue/mage - POW -- captured in Seheron and transported to the Imperium for questioning

These all could be interesting.

[JJ Likeaprayer]

If the new DA game is not about the Inquisitor and Solas that is......anyway,I've never played as a dwarf before,neither as an archer,nor ever had face tattoos...which ever back ground is fine with me.I want to be an archer male dwarf with long long long straight black hair & cat-eye shape tattoos around his eyes,and his eye colors are electric blue,sort of like a dwarf male version of Elizabeth Taylor...IF the new game is about someone new,which I doubt.    

[daveliam]

If the new DA game is not about the Inquisitor and Solas that is......anyway,I've never played as a dwarf before,neither as an archer,nor ever had face tattoos...which ever back ground is fine with me.I want to be an archer male dwarf with long long long straight black hair & cat-eye shape tattoos around his eyes,and his eye colors are electric blue,sort of like a dwarf male version of Elizabeth Taylor...IF the new game is about someone new,which I doubt.    

 

I don't think we'll be the Inquisitor in the next game.  Yes, there's still a great deal to his/her story.  But DA has specifically been about different PCs in different conflicts during the Dragon Age.  I don't see them switching it up at this point to run a second game as the Inquisitor.  I'm not saying that the Inquisitor's story is done.  Just that I don't see us playing as him/her again.

[Kantr]

If you're a Qunari mage though and not Tal-Vasoth why haven't you been bound?

[Abyss108]

Inquisitor background. I've no interest in playing a new character until the old character has got an ending to their story. If Bioware decides their "new protagonist every game" rule is more important than the narrative, then I've got no reason to play.

 

I'd be OK with duel protagonists, in which case I want an Elvhen slave.

[Christy]

Since we're going to be in Tevinter, I suspect that, if we have racial options again, we'll be a slave.  Unless they do origins again.  Life is a little too drastically different because of the castes in Tevinter for them to have it be different for different race/class combos.

 

I suspect they'll select a generic backstory umbrella where we'll be a slave regardless of race/class.  But then the backstory will be different for different combinations.  The only one that I'm not sure about is the dwarf backstory.  There aren't any dwarven slaves in Tevinter, iirc, so they'd have to do something different.  Maybe an indentured servitude connected with the Ambassadoria?  Not really sure.

 

If they do do different backgrounds (origins) for the race/class combos, I'd like to see the following:

• Human warrior/rogue - Non-magical child in a magister family
• Human mage - Laetan class -- first mage in the family (apprentice to a magister)
• Elf warrior/rogue - slave/gladiator
• Elf mage - magical child in a slave family -- now serving as apprentice to a magister
• Dwarf warrior/rogue - Bodyguard for a member of the Ambassadoria (warrior caste)
• Qunari warrior/rogue/mage - POW -- captured in Seheron and transported to the Imperium for questioning

These all could be interesting.

Those are some great ideas. I'd be really curious about the non-magical human in the magister family. And gladiators! Why didn't I think of that? That would be awesome! I'd prefer having a human gladiator, though, I think. I'd want to make a warrior, and elves are just a bit too slender for me.

[Christy]

If the new DA game is not about the Inquisitor and Solas that is......anyway,I've never played as a dwarf before,neither as an archer,nor ever had face tattoos...which ever back ground is fine with me.I want to be an archer male dwarf with long long long straight black hair & cat-eye shape tattoos around his eyes,and his eye colors are electric blue,sort of like a dwarf male version of Elizabeth Taylor...IF the new game is about someone new,which I doubt.    

Haha! A dwarf like Elizabeth Taylor.  Sounds cool, though. I say go for it

[daveliam]

If you're a Qunari mage though and not Tal-Vasoth why haven't you been bound?

 

Yeah, I thought about that one, but didn't have any great ideas.  Someone more creative can give a crack at it, I suppose.  Maybe an apostate mage?  Meh.

 

Those are some great ideas. I'd be really curious about the non-magical human in the magister family. And gladiators! Why didn't I think of that? That would be awesome! I'd prefer having a human gladiator, though, I think. I'd want to make a warrior, and elves are just a bit too slender for me.

 

Yeah, I got myself all excited about those backgrounds and then realized that I pretty much only play as dwarves and qunari.  Stupid boring humans and skinny elves with their interesting background stories!

[Duelist]

Personally, I'd like my rogues to have a background that's roguish so to speak.

Something akin to the old Dwarf Commoner, only more like a thief or something.

[Christy]

Inquisitor background. I've no interest in playing a new character until the old character has got an ending to their story. If Bioware decides their "new protagonist every game" rule is more important than the narrative, then I've got no reason to play.

 

I'd be OK with duel protagonists, in which case I want an Elvhen slave.

I think a new protagonist is very likely considering that's what's been done from the start. Not that that's good reasoning or anything, but it's what people have gotten used to when it comes to DA. I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of playing my inquisitor again, but how would one transfer my abilities to the new game? And I'm not sure how much I'd like being really powerful right from the start. I like small sidequests that aren't super important, but why would a powerful leader do them? And then there's the problem I have with recreating characters from the past. My Hawke went from looking like a badass to looking like a clown. Maybe there are some very simple solutions. I haven't played Mass Effect, so I wouldn't really know.

Having two protagonists would be interesting, though. Having the Inquisitor come back like Hawke did in DAI would be an easy guess. Not too much of a fan of that idea either, because my Hawke said things I'm fairly sure she wouldn't ever say. Apparently he/she will also still talk **** about blood magic even if he/she is a blood mage. If we could have our Inquisitor back AND control him or her, I'm in. 

[Abyss108]

I think a new protagonist is very likely considering that's what's been done from the start. Not that that's good reasoning or anything, but it's what people have gotten used to when it comes to DA. I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of playing my inquisitor again, but how would one transfer my abilities to the new game? And I'm not sure how much I'd like being really powerful right from the start. I like small sidequests that aren't super important, but why would a powerful leader do them? And then there's the problem I have with recreating characters from the past. My Hawke went from looking like a badass to looking like a clown. Maybe there are some very simple solutions. I haven't played Mass Effect, so I wouldn't really know.

Having two protagonists would be interesting, though. Having the Inquisitor come back like Hawke did in DAI would be an easy guess. Not too much of a fan of that idea either, because my Hawke said things I'm fairly sure she wouldn't ever say. Apparently he/she will also still talk **** about blood magic even if he/she is a blood mage. If we could have our Inquisitor back AND control him or her, I'm in. 

 

Bioware said every game has a new protagonist, but they also said the story for Inquisition is only half done and they had to cut the story they have planned in half. That means it was originally planned for the Inquisitor to deal with the next part of the plot. No matter what Bioware does next, they have to go against what they originally planned. So if they have to change their plans, I say go with the change that makes narrative sense and have the Inquisitor return.

 

Plus, no one expected the Inquisitor to return after the end of the base game. It was only Trespasser that made that a suggestion. Everyone would have been fine with a new protagonist before then. So I don't see why Bioware would do that, if they weren't at least considering it as a real possibility.

[Christy]

Personally, I'd like my rogues to have a background that's roguish so to speak.

Something akin to the old Dwarf Commoner, only more like a thief or something.

This! When I'm playing a human noble dual wielder, I feel like I have to justify it. Why would a rich, pampered person go around picking locks? Where did they learn those skills? I'm all for a very "roguish" origin.

[Christy]

Yeah, I thought about that one, but didn't have any great ideas.  Someone more creative can give a crack at it, I suppose.  Maybe an apostate mage?  Meh.

 

 

Yeah, I got myself all excited about those backgrounds and then realized that I pretty much only play as dwarves and qunari.  Stupid boring humans and skinny elves with their interesting background stories!

The City Elf Origin is probably my favorite (especially if you're playing as a woman), closely followed by the Magi one, so I see what you mean. The Dalish Origin was quite boring to me, though.

[Christy]

Bioware said every game has a new protagonist, but they also said the story for Inquisition is only half done and they had to cut the story they have planned in half. That means it was originally planned for the Inquisitor to deal with the next part of the plot. No matter what Bioware does next, they have to go against what they originally planned. So if they have to change their plans, I say go with the change that makes narrative sense and have the Inquisitor return.

 

Plus, no one expected the Inquisitor to return after the end of the base game. It was only Trespasser that made that a suggestion. Everyone would have been fine with a new protagonist before then. So I don't see why Bioware would do that, if they weren't at least considering it as a real possibility.

Those are some good points. I feel like the whole ~ SPOILER ~ losing ones arm thing was used to exclude the Inquisitor from having an active part in the next game, though.

[Abyss108]

Those are some good points. I feel like the whole ~ SPOILER ~ losing ones arm thing was used to exclude the Inquisitor from having an active part in the next game, though.

 

Well in the original design Iron Bull only had one arm, and had a prosthetic arm to fight with, meaning Bioware thinks that kind of thing exists in the setting. There's also a comic, where someone regrows an arm with magic.  

[Lazarillo]

Without knowing anything about DA4 (and, heck, likely nothing about it even written yet), it's hard to say.  For all we know, the Inquisition cliffhanger that feels like it'll be the whole point of the next game may just end up being a stepping stone in a new character's career (just as how the Mage/Templar war that was left as a BIG IMPORTANT THING in DA2 ended up being something wrapped up pretty quickly and simply in Inquisition).

 

That said, there are a few things that I'm hoping for:

1. The Inquisitor should not even appear unless the Inquisitor is once again the player character.  I don't want any more than vague references to the character at most.  The biggest disappointment for me with the Warden, particularly, in DA2 and DAI was not his/her lack of appearance, it was how much the story tried to define his/her current actions.  If I can't control my former-PC's actions in game, then let my PCs live on only in headcanon where I can determine their actions.  That said...

2. The Inquisitor should not once again be the player character.  The character's boring.  The canvas was too blank to work with, in this case.  The Inquisition as an organization, even the remnants of it left behind by Trespasser, are far more interesting. I want a character I can get more invested in.  Which brings us to...

3. Limited background options.  The Warden worked with a wide variety of options because the Warden was a silent protagonist and lots could be done with the "silent" dialogue to make the character work.  Hawke was a more deeply written character, but that worked too because there was a specific story and background made for the character to fit into, though the player still had control over Hawke's decisions and overall personality.  The Inquisitor attempted to do both at once, and we got a character who had was much less interesting in-game because of all the things the writers had to be careful not to contradict.  I like the idea of the "slave" background in Tevinter, because it still allows for lots of options in creation, but keeps the background fairly closed, which should make it easier to write the character in a compelling fashion.  Finally...

4. If the Inquisition cliffhanger ends up being of primary relevance to the DA4 story as well, then I want to play an elf mage, as such a character would be most likely to potentially benefit from the villain's plans, and it's fun to be able to play a hero who can stand against the villain simply because s/he knows the villain is in the wrong.  Makes for a good contrast.

[Christy]

Well in the original design Iron Bull only had one arm, and had a prosthetic arm to fight with, meaning Bioware thinks that kind of thing exists in the setting. There's also a comic, where someone regrows an arm with magic.  

Inquisitor Skywalker 

 

Without knowing anything about DA4 (and, heck, likely nothing about it even written yet), it's hard to say.  For all we know, the Inquisition cliffhanger that feels like it'll be the whole point of the next game may just end up being a stepping stone in a new character's career (just as how the Mage/Templar war that was left as a BIG IMPORTANT THING in DA2 ended up being something wrapped up pretty quickly and simply in Inquisition).

 

That said, there are a few things that I'm hoping for:

1. The Inquisitor should not even appear unless the Inquisitor is once again the player character.  I don't want any more than vague references to the character at most.  The biggest disappointment for me with the Warden, particularly, in DA2 and DAI was not his/her lack of appearance, it was how much the story tried to define his/her current actions.  If I can't control my former-PC's actions in game, then let my PCs live on only in headcanon where I can determine their actions.  That said...

2. The Inquisitor should not once again be the player character.  The character's boring.  The canvas was too blank to work with, in this case.  The Inquisition as an organization, even the remnants of it left behind by Trespasser, are far more interesting. I want a character I can get more invested in.  Which brings us to...

3. Limited background options.  The Warden worked with a wide variety of options because the Warden was a silent protagonist and lots could be done with the "silent" dialogue to make the character work.  Hawke was a more deeply written character, but that worked too because there was a specific story and background made for the character to fit into, though the player still had control over Hawke's decisions and overall personality.  The Inquisitor attempted to do both at once, and we got a character who had was much less interesting in-game because of all the things the writers had to be careful not to contradict.  I like the idea of the "slave" background in Tevinter, because it still allows for lots of options in creation, but keeps the background fairly closed, which should make it easier to write the character in a compelling fashion.  Finally...

4. If the Inquisition cliffhanger ends up being of primary relevance to the DA4 story as well, then I want to play an elf mage, as such a character would be most likely to potentially benefit from the villain's plans, and it's fun to be able to play a hero who can stand against the villain simply because s/he knows the villain is in the wrong.  Makes for a good contrast.

I definitely agree on the Inquisitor being playable, should he or she show up. I also agree that the Inquisitor is the least interesting protagonist so far, probably because of the lack of backrground and family interactions which I very much missed, so I'd be somewhat disappointed if we only got to play DA4 as the Inquisitor. I also like to start fresh and try new specializations and abilities. After millions of hours seeing lightning spells you kind of just want to switch it up a bit.

I would not mind very few background options if it means a lot of effort put into them, and your background being relevant throughout the game (but a slave option, pleease, Bioware).

[Andraste_Reborn]

If you're a Qunari mage though and not Tal-Vasoth why haven't you been bound?

 

Maybe your powers showed up late? It seems that Saarath from Trespasser was an ashkaari for years, and he was certainly a mature adult before being bound.

 

Calpurnia was also an adult - albeit a young adult - when her magic manifested. While it's typical for people to show any magical talent at an early age, it's not inevitable.

[Cyrus Amell]

A former bunk-mate of Fenris during the experiments that branded Lyrium into your veins. The song is all you know, and the power that comes with it. The Tevinter Empire sought to make you a weapon to fight the Qunari. They thought wrong, because you will carve your way to freedom and make your own decisions.

 

No memory, hot pain, and a destiny that cannot be avoided. You know the Titans are returning and that the Wolf must be stopped. And as you stumble to freedom from the wreck of the laboratory a mysterious woman from the swamps introduces herself as Yavana, and she would like you to meet her mother...

 

---

 

Basically, what will make you special is, whether your a mage or not, the ability to augment yourself with greater magical powers to become a true force of nature. You will be like Fenris, but so much more. It's the only way I can think to one-up the Inquisitor and the Warden.

 

Spoiler

And now we have a way to introduce a dwarven mage-type.

(Better run before Dagna starts squeeling with joy)

 

And yes, I know that poor old Flemeth may be somewhat indisposed - but I am sure she can doddle on out one last time so that her voice actor, Kate Mulgrew, can give us a few more good lines before leaving the series permanently. 

[Ghost Gal]

Tevinter Elven Slave. Mage or not mage. I'm flexible.

 

I've been waiting four games for this. Gimme.

[Kantr]

Maybe your powers showed up late? It seems that Saarath from Trespasser was an ashkaari for years, and he was certainly a mature adult before being bound.

 

Calpurnia was also an adult - albeit a young adult - when her magic manifested. While it's typical for people to show any magical talent at an early age, it's not inevitable.

Good point. 

[Asdrubael Vect]

We would be in Tevinter and maybe have something in Nevarra cos it a good part of Thedas and quite popular from fans

 

I am sure that we would have 3 races cos i hope that bio learn their lesson and do not do only humans, would we have Kossith race for protag i am not sure cos of Qunari wars and Iron Bull fate what cos many not trust tal vashots even more so i am not thing that famous mercenary will work this time..only if Tal-vashot rebellion fight with Tevinter aid agains Qunari, but this will cut the choices with Qunari

 

As i am tottally sure that we will not have any stupid "slave"(some of them cant even know how to read anything) origin and this is realistic and only good for us to not have this nonsense, we are not a grey warden who just need to survive joining and kill darkspawns, we will have a serious problems what will connect with politics, wars with Qunari and etc and serious magic stuff

 

So i am sure that we will have and i will kinda like

 

1)Elf-from Tevinter Laetan family(cos of Fenharel & agents we might not have a dalish origin and Dalish are not have much clans in Tevinter lands)....mage is Laetan magister or Imperium Cirle Enchanter......and nonmage will be famous soporati mercenary-soldier and "Imperial Blade"(Champion of Tevinter arena as i remember called that way)

 

2)Dwarf from Ambassadoria/Carta mercenary-merchants family....maybe even connected with Varrick, so i will not be surprised if they do such cheap story thing

 

3)Human from Nevarran noble family(cos origins as we see in DAI must make all kinda equal in positions so its quite possible to not have a Tevinter noble(especially altus ones) human for diversity and this would be easy for nonmages humans)....nonmage is Nevarran knight and mage who is a Mortalitasy mage what is common for Nevarra noblility and their noble born  mages who become Mortalitasy have a political status

 

4)Tal Vashot Mercenary...this is the most difficult, cos really in Tevinter Humans, Elfs and Dwarfs have kinda equal "Imperial citizens rights" by the law and can hold something in military trade and politics or become poor and slaves(exept dwarfs by the law who cant sell themselfs and be a legal slave) but with Qunari race especially when Tevinter have a war with Qunari this is kinda really difficult to be as Kossith protag in Tevinter and in Nevarra too

[Christy]

A former bunk-mate of Fenris during the experiments that branded Lyrium into your veins. The song is all you know, and the power that comes with it. The Tevinter Empire sought to make you a weapon to fight the Qunari. They thought wrong, because you will carve your way to freedom and make your own decisions.

 

No memory, hot pain, and a destiny that cannot be avoided. You know the Titans are returning and that the Wolf must be stopped. And as you stumble to freedom from the wreck of the laboratory a mysterious woman from the swamps introduces herself as Yavana, and she would like you to meet her mother...

 

---

 

Basically, what will make you special is, whether your a mage or not, the ability to augment yourself with greater magical powers to become a true force of nature. You will be like Fenris, but so much more. It's the only way I can think to one-up the Inquisitor and the Warden.

 

Spoiler

And now we have a way to introduce a dwarven mage-type.

(Better run before Dagna starts squeeling with joy)

 

And yes, I know that poor old Flemeth may be somewhat indisposed - but I am sure she can doddle on out one last time so that her voice actor, Kate Mulgrew, can give us a few more good lines before leaving the series permanently. 

Being the former lyrium slave of Danarius.. Yeah, I could definitely see that happening.   I'd love for memories to pop up at a later point. Could be a quest for your missing past maybe?

 

Haha, poor Flemeth!  She's gone through a lot lately. Wouldn't be the same withouth her and her voice, so she better turn up.

 

Tevinter Elven Slave. Mage or not mage. I'm flexible.

 

I've been waiting four games for this. Gimme.

Yes!!

 

We would be in Tevinter and maybe have something in Nevarra cos it a good part of Thedas and quite popular from fans

 

I am sure that we would have 3 races cos i hope that bio learn their lesson and do not do only humans, would we have Kossith race for protag i am not sure cos of Qunari wars and Iron Bull fate what cos many not trust tal vashots even more so i am not thing that famous mercenary will work this time..only if Tal-vashot rebellion fight with Tevinter aid agains Qunari, but this will cut the choices with Qunari

 

As i am tottally sure that we will not have any stupid "slave"(some of them cant even know how to read anything) origin and this is realistic and only good for us to not have this nonsense, we are not a grey warden who just need to survive joining and kill darkspawns, we will have a serious problems what will connect with politics, wars with Qunari and etc and serious magic stuff

 

So i am sure that we will have and i will kinda like

 

1)Elf-from Tevinter Laetan family(cos of Fenharel & agents we might not have a dalish origin and Dalish are not have much clans in Tevinter lands)....mage is Laetan magister or Imperium Cirle Enchanter......and nonmage will be famous soporati mercenary-soldier and "Imperial Blade"(Champion of Tevinter arena as i remember called that way)

 

2)Dwarf from Ambassadoria/Carta mercenary-merchants family....maybe even connected with Varrick, so i will not be surprised if they do such cheap story thing

 

3)Human from Nevarran noble family(cos origins as we see in DAI must make all kinda equal in positions so its quite possible to not have a Tevinter noble(especially altus ones) human for diversity and this would be easy for nonmages humans)....nonmage is Nevarran knight and mage who is a Mortalitasy mage what is common for Nevarra noblility and their noble born  mages who become Mortalitasy have a political status

 

4)Tal Vashot Mercenary...this is the most difficult, cos really in Tevinter Humans, Elfs and Dwarfs have kinda equal "Imperial citizens rights" by the law and can hold something in military trade and politics or become poor and slaves(exept dwarfs by the law who cant sell themselfs and be a legal slave) but with Qunari race especially when Tevinter have a war with Qunari this is kinda really difficult to be as Kossith protag in Tevinter and in Nevarra too

I hope they have more than one race option too. It's much more interesting replaying the game that way. Why do you dislike the slave suggestion? And how can you be sure they won't use it?

A noble family from Nevarra I do like. I'm a bit tired of the good, old nobles, but I find Nevarra fascinating with their love for the dead and dragon hunting. Would also be interesting to see their architecture and fashion in general. I wonder what country Nevarra is supposed to represent. We have Ferelden = England, Free Marches = ancient Greece possibly, with their independent states, Orlais = obviously France.. But with Spanish architecture apparently, Antiva = Italy with all the assassins and secret lover stories? They have those Spanish accents, though. And then we have Tevinter = ancient Rome. Haven't read much about Rivain or the Anderfels, so those countries would also be of great interest to me. I'd probably be interested in anything not Fereldan, so I'm glad we'll likely spend time in Tevinter this time around.

[ViolaRay71]

I just want the chance to have my Warden back maybe with a cutscene breaking enemy's weapons with Yusaris or the blade Wade created in Awakening, until the camera finally comes to his face covered by a shadow and there it opens up the menu where you can eventually customize or choose a new name.