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For me, the best fit background for "Ryder" is that they were employed by Eldfell Ashland Energy.  Their lore description below suggests that they had been the driving force behind human expansion since the start and have developed the basic expertise required in building, recruiting and logistics to support some worlds with significant populations and they were exploiting space from before the Alliance existed.

 

"In 2137, the Ashland Energy Corporation successfully extracted helium-3 from Saturn's atmosphere, beginning a new era of fusion research. On the wave of this success, they merged with Eldfell Construction to vertically integrate the two companies' strengths. Ashland would recover the raw materials for energy production, and Eldfell would build power plants, refineries, and pipelines on nearby worlds to distribute Ashland's products to the consumer. Eldfell-Ashland Energy was born.

 

As EAE's reach extended, they absorbed companies to create a "cradle-to-grave corporate experience" for their employees. Today, subsidiaries such as Second Star Living recruit colonists to staff EAE facilities, and the education group Excelsior provides job-related education opportunities to provide EAE stations with a qualified incoming workforce. Water, power, food, shipping -- EAE provides them all. If EAE wants to put a colony on a garden world, they are able to do so and keep 90% of services performed completely in-house, creating consumers out of its own employees. Its primary revenue stream, however, continues to come from mining base elements like hydrogen, helium-3, and eezo and trading in their futures."

 

Ooo,now this is interesting. This works very well.

 

Ashland...Ashland..that name sounds familiar. Was he that old guy we ran into in the Citadel dlc at the glitzy party? By the dance floor. If you talk to him he mentions..that he's recently gone bankrupt, or something like that. I think he said he was Ashland of the Helium-3 Energy ppl. It was him.


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I'm confused as to why people are using the name Ryder. It was on a dogtag you say? Fantastic, but shouldn't a soldier going to action be wearing said dogtag? Leaving it behind defeats the purpose, no?

This is a fair point, since we have no idea when the game takes place. Most people are assuming it occurs right after the ARK ship arrives at it's new home when in truth it could be some time afterwards.

 

Scenario: The ARK arrives and begins to colonize a few worlds, setting up a secure foothold. Ryder was an Alliance Soldier that was instrumental to the survival of the colonies in those early days, a hero to many. You are his child (or grand child) and unlike your other siblings you've avoided Military service. Oh sure you were a Military brat and are no stranger to the lifestyle but it wasn't a career path you wanted to pursue. You became (Cop, Free Trader, Field researcher) and were eventually tapped to join the Pathfinders corps after some noteworthy feet. Now is your chance to step out from your parents (Grand Parents) shadow and be your own person.



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This is a fair point, since we have no idea when the game takes place. Most people are assuming it occurs right after the ARK ship arrives at it's new home when in truth it could be some time afterwards.

 

Scenario: The ARK arrives and begins to colonize a few worlds, setting up a secure foothold. Ryder was an Alliance Soldier that was instrumental to the survival of the colonies in those early days, a hero to many. You are his child (or grand child) and unlike your other siblings you've avoided Military service. Oh sure you were a Military brat and are no stranger to the lifestyle but it wasn't a career path you wanted to pursue. You became (Cop, Free Trader, Field researcher) and were eventually tapped to join the Pathfinders corps after some noteworthy feet. Now is your chance to step out from your parents (Grand Parents) shadow and be your own person.

In that scenario you would still be "Ryder" but it does sound cool! i like your approach!

Another thing is that "Ryder" is being used as a pet name of sorts, because of the song in addition to the dog tag. If the name is different, people won't have a problem with that, i think 



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Ooo,now this is interesting. This works very well.

 

Ashland...Ashland..that name sounds familiar. Was he that old guy we ran into in the Citadel dlc at the glitzy party? By the dance floor. If you talk to him he mentions..that he's recently gone bankrupt, or something like that. I think he said he was Ashland of the Helium-3 Energy ppl. It was him.

 

Thanks, good to hear that the idea could work.

 

Yeah, Jonah Ashland was the guy in the Citadel DLC, also you could chat with his daughter Aishwarya as well



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If ME:A starts at that moment, i would love to see Hackett again! That was an awesome character, imo (it also helps that he's my only argentine brother in ME *cough cough)

 

Hackett is one of the best secondary characters in ME. He's like the good counterpart to the Illusive Man, the guy who always seems to be aware of everything going on, isn't afraid to bend the rules to get the job done and always seems to have a couple plans to deal with a problem.

 

Really wouldn't surprise me that the ARK wasn't something Hackett had been pushing for ever since Shepard discovered the Reaper threat in ME1, then became the Plan B option in case the Crucible project failed to be completed on time or to work.


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Hackett is one of the best secondary characters in ME. He's like the good counterpart to the Illusive Man, the guy who always seems to be aware of everything going on, isn't afraid to bend the rules to get the job done and always seems to have a couple plans to deal with a problem.

 

Really wouldn't surprise me that the ARK wasn't something Hackett had been pushing for ever since Shepard discovered the Reaper threat in ME1, then became the Plan B option in case the Crucible project failed to be completed on time or to work.

I've never considered that comparison between Hackett and TIM and you're right! and if the ARK is something like what we've been discussing in the forum, he surely had something to do with the conception of the idea and/or deployment. Now i'm thrilled :P i want to hear him again



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If they are going the Ark route, I don't want Hackett to have anything to do with it. In Mass Effect 3 on multiple occasions he stresses how the Crucible is the way to go and how everything should go to making sure it succeeds, so him supporting the Ark project goes against his character. 



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If they are going the Ark route, I don't want Hackett to have anything to do with it. In Mass Effect 3 on multiple occasions he stresses how the Crucible is the way to go and how everything should go to making sure it succeeds, so him supporting the Ark project goes against his character. 

I don't think so. He is the kind of guy that likes to be one step ahead of everyone/everything else, doesn't matter if it's morally ambiguous. (the whole black ops mission involving the relay comes to mind)


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If they are going the Ark route, I don't want Hackett to have anything to do with it. In Mass Effect 3 on multiple occasions he stresses how the Crucible is the way to go and how everything should go to making sure it succeeds, so him supporting the Ark project goes against his character. 

 

Because he thinks it's probably the best shot they have, even if it's a completely unknown and untested Hail Mary of a device. It's far easier to convince desperate people to rally together to build the Crucible because the idea of it being an anti-Reaper superweapon gives people hope. The ARK on the other hand basically admits that you think that everyone is going to die and so you're skipping town.

 

You can see why the ARK might naturally then be relegated to Plan B even if the plans for it were on the table first, because no-one wants to need it. It's use is as a fallback plan and worst case scenario option, when they feel that they have no choice but to launch, because the Crucible isn't finished, the Reapers aren't being pushed back and delaying any longer risks nothing of their civilisation surviving.

 

(The ARK being launched at the darkest hour of ME3 would mean this would be after the fall of Thessia, when Cerberus had taken the data to find the Catalyst and they couldn't complete the Crucible without it.)

 

Hackett seems too smart to me to be the kind of person who'd put all his faith into the Crucible without having something up his sleeve, because even he doesn't seem convinced that it'll actually work, but desperately needs everyone too because it inspires everyone to stick together and keep fighting.



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Hackett seems too smart to me to be the kind of person who'd put all his faith into the Crucible without having something up his sleeve, because even he doesn't seem convinced that it'll actually work, but desperately needs everyone too because it inspires everyone to stick together and keep fighting.

He would say: "You can't pay them to believe".



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The 'space-time' between our galaxy and Andromeda is pretty big. Just being in Andromeda means you are 'far removed' from the events of the Reaper War in 'time and space' if you consider travel at the speed of light.



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Well I do like the Ark Theory and would rather they not touch the endings at all. I watched stuff on the game the endings mimic in ME3 and the sequel to that one wasn't successful because they couldn't show the choices taking real effect. I mean in 2 of the 3 endings the Reapers are alive, 3 endings if you count Refuse. I mean lets not be blind, ME3 endings are the reason we are moving to Andromeda so going to Andromeda has to be before ME3 endings occurred. 



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I mean lets not be blind, ME3 endings are the reason we are moving to Andromeda so going to Andromeda has to be before ME3 endings occurred. 

 

There used to be a legendary comment on the Youtube video of the Andromeda trailer that went something like this,

 

"When you mess up your last game so bad that you have to take the next one to an entirely new galaxy."


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Thanks, good to hear that the idea could work.

 

Yeah, Jonah Ashland was the guy in the Citadel DLC, also you could chat with his daughter Aishwarya as well

 

Ah, I'll have to pay more attention next time, and make sure I talk to her.

 

lol, now I want to know more about this company. I want to go codex surfing, although I don;t think I'll find much more.

 

Thanks for posting this though.



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What do you think the origin story will be for ME:A?

 

For the trilogy it was Earthborn, Spacer or Colonist; Sole Survivor, War Hero or Ruthless.

 

I'm pretty sure Earthborn will not be an option for ME:A, spacer and colonist will probably be on there.

 

War Hero and Sole Survivor may not make sense unless we have been in Andromeda for a long time and there was some kind of war/conflict.

What options should there be when we choose the origin story?

 

I think the background we all will get is that we were volunteers.  We won't be combat veterans; however, we will be trained.  If the leak is correct, our character won't be military.  

 

As to what we were before we volunteered to take a one way trip out of the Milky way?  I think it would have to be related to the kinds of people that would need to be sent on this sort of trip. I would love to see the following options:

 

- Space pirate

- Scientist/Engineer

- C-Sec

 

Each one gives you better starting stats in certain skills.

 

Space Pirate: Better reconnaissance and more loot discovered

Scientist/Engineer: Better crafting and modding abilities

C-Sec: Better combat and health stats



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I think the background we all will get is that we were volunteers.  We won't be combat veterans; however, we will be trained.  If the leak is correct, our character won't be military.  

 

As to what we were before we volunteered to take a one way trip out of the Milky way?  I think it would have to be related to the kinds of people that would need to be sent on this sort of trip. I would love to see the following options:

 

- Space pirate

- Scientist/Engineer

- C-Sec

 

Each one gives you better starting stats in certain skills.

 

Space Pirate: Better reconnaissance and more loot discovered

Scientist/Engineer: Better crafting and modding abilities

C-Sec: Better combat and health stats

 

I'm wondering if C-Sec (Citadel Security) would be an option since there won't be a Citadel in Andromeda as far as we know.



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I think the background we all will get is that we were volunteers.  We won't be combat veterans; however, we will be trained.  If the leak is correct, our character won't be military.  

You are forgetting that photo they showed along with the mako. The armor of your character says N7

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You are forgetting that photo they showed along with the mako. The armor of your character says N7

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Nope:

1) I see no N7 on these prototype renderings.  These hadn't even gone through an "Iconic color pass" yet, per Mike Gamble. Also, the BioWare blog from June 2015 said that the character in the trailer isn't the playable character/protagonist.

2)"We know that “The protagonist of the game is someone who is “becoming an hero.” He’s skilled and capable but hasn’t reached the legendary status Shepard has even at the beginning of the Mass Effect trilogy.”  http://gamingbolt.co...lanets-and-more

3) “So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.” http://www.vg247.com...pard-2-bioware/

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I'm wondering if C-Sec (Citadel Security) would be an option since there won't be a Citadel in Andromeda as far as we know.


You would need law enforcement professionals. People who know how to police civilian populations.

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Nope:

1) I see no N7 on these prototype renderings.  These hadn't even gone through an "Iconic color pass" yet, per Mike Gamble. Also, the BioWare blog from June 2015 said that the character in the trailer isn't the playable character/protagonist.

2)"We know that “The protagonist of the game is someone who is “becoming an hero.” He’s skilled and capable but hasn’t reached the legendary status Shepard has even at the beginning of the Mass Effect trilogy.”  http://gamingbolt.co...lanets-and-more

3) “So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.” http://www.vg247.com...pard-2-bioware/

 

The N7 insignias are on their right arms.

 


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Nope:

1) I see no N7 on these prototype renderings.  These hadn't even gone through an "Iconic color pass" yet, per Mike Gamble. Also, the BioWare blog from June 2015 said that the character in the trailer isn't the playable character/protagonist.

2)"We know that “The protagonist of the game is someone who is “becoming an hero.” He’s skilled and capable but hasn’t reached the legendary status Shepard has even at the beginning of the Mass Effect trilogy.”  http://gamingbolt.co...lanets-and-more

3) “So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.” http://www.vg247.com...pard-2-bioware/

 

The N7 insignias are on their right arms.

 

 

 

I see that avatar.  We have a Battlefront beast around here?

 

I bet you are.  Judging by your name you are a Geth/Legion fan too. 


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You are forgetting that photo they showed along with the mako. The armor of your character says N7

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I think this looks like the Phoenix Adept and Vanguard 2.0 (not that its a bad thing)



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The N7 insignias are on their right arms.


Fair enough; however, it's still a prototype rendering and it doesn't negate the other points. Mike Gamble also said that the character will have “something to do with N7". http://www.gamefront...ew-mass-effect/

Why not just say, "they will be an N7"? Seems like it's not so straight forward.

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Fair enough; however, it's still a prototype rendering and it doesn't negate the other points. Mike Gamble also said that the character will have “something to do with N7". http://www.gamefront...ew-mass-effect/

Why not just say, "they will be an N7"? Seems like it's not so straight forward.

This is quite simple. The image that says "Your hero" and has a female/male built, says N7 and it was delivered by themselves.

A leak with no actual proof says that is false.

The character in the photo is not the character from the trailer.

believe what you want. Just because you are N7 doesn't really mean that you are Shepard all over again



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This is quite simple. The image that says "Your hero" and has a female/male built, says N7 and it was delivered by themselves.

A leak with no actual proof says that is false.

The character in the photo is not the character from the trailer.

believe what you want. Just because you are N7 doesn't really mean that you are Shepard all over again


I didn't post anything about a leak here. These quotes (items 2-3) came from Bioware, not a leak.

And like I said, Mike Gamble indicated that these weren't final outfits. The N7 could be there just for reference for all we know. So our hero may or may not have an N7 logo. Given that BioWare said that the character from the reveal trailer isn't our hero and they had the N7 logo, I could see that being the case.