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[ViolaRay71]

After playing the entire storyline I want to bring my thoughts about the plot:

 

1. DAI was a well done chapter and needed as well, but it's just a transition chapter.

 

Why do i feel like that? Actually after witch hunt dlc we were wondering what could be these "future events" Morrigan (and eventually her son) she has to prepare for. The plot seemed to take a turn of events on a higher level of urgency and beyond human power, just when we had already have dealt with blight. DAO was already epic and unique as it is for its storyline and the fire still burns as we expect to go further and how things evolve about the "old god" (whatever is the choice we made at the end of the first chapeter).

 

Then comes DA2 dealing with the social question between mages and templars, wich was important for sure and justify the limitations we encountered on the origins of a mage characters before. The main problem is DA2 plot is very poor and doesn't match at all the greatness of the first chapter. An entire chapter just for the question between templar and mages turns out boring and the technical parts of the game does not help at all. The plot itself is affected by some mistakes, then DAI was a needed chapter to fix the second chapter and a transistion to get back to the events of the first.

 

2. We waited so long to light the fire we left with DAO again to be rewarded just with a little spark in DAI.

 

Ten years passed since the events of Origins, without having a clue of what happened to Morrigan, the hero of ferelden or the warden commander. Only in the end of the game we can finally see a spark of the fire left in Origins, but of course it's not enough and it isn't the sequel we're expecting, but just a transistion. Whatever will come, gods coming into play (Morrigan's child included depending on the past decisions), the Tevinter Empirium War, another social question with the Qunari this time, anything, we are still waiting for the main plot to come up.

 

So whatever may come just do this to bring back our hearts beating:

 

3. DRAGON AGE: THE WARDEN IS BACK

 

That's of course more a statement than a title, but gives you the idea, it may talk about the hero, the Morrigan's lover and a father, of the warden commander (in case they are not the same person) and there are thousand ways to make it work adding different characters or customize the old ones.

[Abyss108]

No more Wardens please. They are the worst part of the franchise. (Both the organisation, and the hero of Feralden)

[daveliam]

I actually like the Grey Wardens.  I think there's still some potential there.

 

But I'm not at all interested in a return of "the Warden".  S/he's been gone long enough that s/he isn't a central character anymore.  And there are just so many variables that it's not really worth the effort to bring him/her back at this point, in my opinion.

[ViolaRay71]

I actually like the Grey Wardens.  I think there's still some potential there.

 

But I'm not at all interested in a return of "the Warden".  S/he's been gone long enough that s/he isn't a central character anymore.  And there are just so many variables that it's not really worth the effort to bring him/her back at this point, in my opinion.

The problem is right there he is not anymore a central character as he should be, we waited so long to see how the story of the warden and morrigan can evolve and find solution to all the matters remaining, the awakening question was taken apart, too. There so much still incomplete that's worth the effort, social matters were important but they just revolve around the main problem, stop once for all the blights and clear what's behind the old gods.

 

Don't you agree that plot is still on, under the surface of social and political matters that DA2 and DAI brought in? I think the real show must go on maybe not now but at least for the ending chapter everyone shall face the main issue of the story. The return of Morrigan and eventually the Warden and their son is necessary to me, DAO began something, now it must be done, enough waiting, enough boring political issues, enough running in circles.

 

The wardens are the thing that made this franchise without them dragon age cannot be the same, they are a main part of the story, most of them the hero of ferelden, i am here to say:

 

JOIN US BROTHERS AND SISTERS....

[Abyss108]

Dragon Age has never been about the Wardens, or Blights, or Morrigan. You can kick Morrigan out at the start of Origins, she's not even in 2, and has a tiny role in Inquisition. Hell, Leiliana has got more content than her. The plots in 2 and Inquisition were a lot more interesting than Origins, which was just "stop generic army of monsters". There's was some interesting other stuff in there (aka, your "boring" social/political stuff), but the core plot about the Blight was terrible.

 

I certainly haven't been waiting for the return of my Warden and son/Morrigan. Mainly because she is a women (kinda makes having a son with Morrigan hard), hates Morrigan, and is dead.

[ViolaRay71]

Dragon Age has never been about the Wardens, or Blights, or Morrigan. You can kick Morrigan out at the start of Origins, she's not even in 2, and has a tiny role in Inquisition. Hell, Leiliana has got more content than her. The plots in 2 and Inquisition were a lot more interesting than Origins, which was just "stop generic army of monsters". There's was some interesting other stuff in there (aka, your "boring" social/political stuff), but the core plot about the Blight was terrible.

 

I certainly haven't been waiting for the return of my Warden and son/Morrigan. Mainly because she is a women (kinda makes having a son with Morrigan hard), hates Morrigan, and is dead.

Honestly was the best plot ever written and it's not like stopping a generic army of monster, maybe that's your point of view which is quite superficial in my opinion, or that's just how you lived DAO events. But in reality Origin is so deep and the things that sets are out of reach even for the most epic stories.

 

On the other side I understand you may not like Morrigan, it's a matter of opionion and every choice deserves it's importance, i personally can't stand a chapter without Morrigan, the inner core of the story lives on what she knows or is about to know and what we don't. I love how the character of Morrigan is built and how evolves. I also think that passsing through the eluvian with the warden was the most romantic story i have ever seen.

 

I respect your opinion though dealing with the elven gods, the black city and the calling is the spine of the plot, everthing else just revolves around that, like a frame on a portrait. You may don't want play with the warden again, that's ok but i think that should be just a choice without cutting the chance of playing the spine with the warden again since we left that with him.

[Sarielle]

My warden died killing the archdemon. Her story is over. For me, at least, there are no more loose ends to tie up.

[ViolaRay71]

My warden died killing the archdemon. Her story is over. For me, at least, there are no more loose ends to tie up.

You may still have the warden commander or any new character that's not a problem. 

[Sarielle]

You may still have the warden commander or any new character that's not a problem. 

 

It's not a problem, it just doesn't leave me with a burning desire to see more of that story. I think you're looking at this only from the perspective of a male warden who romanced Morrigan and did the ritual with her. Which I can see why someone in that position would like more content (Morrigan is an awesome character), just realize not everyone has the same attachment to that storyline

[United Servo Academy Choir]

Honestly was the best plot ever written and it's not like stopping a generic army of monster, maybe that's your point of view which is quite superficial in my opinion, or that's just how you lived DAO events. But in reality Origin is so deep and the things that sets are out of reach even for the most epic stories.

 

Yeah, but that's still the other "boring" stuff. You're still fighting an army of monsters in Origins. That's pretty much the main event. It's well-executed and terrifically well written, but it's not a groundbreaking new concept.

 

On the other side I understand you may not like Morrigan, it's a matter of opionion and every choice deserves it's importance, i personally can't stand a chapter without Morrigan, the inner core of the story lives on what she knows or is about to know and what we don't. I love how the character of Morrigan is built and how evolves. I also think that passsing through the eluvian with the warden was the most romantic story i have ever seen.

 

I respect your opinion though dealing with the elven gods, the black city and the calling is the spine of the plot, everthing else just revolves around that, like a frame on a portrait. You may don't want play with the warden again, that's ok but i think that should be just a choice without cutting the chance of playing the spine with the warden again since we left that with him.

 

"Every choice should be respected, provided it lines up with my personal canon."

 

They can't make a sequel to your personal, specific world state. A game written with the warden in mind as PC wouldn't work coherently for any other character - and in fact, wouldn't really work even with all possible living wardens, since the character is so divergent. If they tried to do that, the character of the warden would be so neutered that they may as well be a new PC.

 

For my part, I hope we're done with Morrigan - and I think Morrigan is BAMF - as well as everyone else. Dragon Age is about Thedas, not the HoF and the ragtag group s/he put together all those years ago. Let's get some new faces, and for god's sake, get the damn out of Ferelden and Orlais.

[Captain Wiseass]

It's never going to happen, Gretchen.