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[Vit246]

Its not that I hate the Geth or that I even support the Quarian methods of dealing with them. Its just that....

 

I understand why the Quarians reacted to the Geth the way they did.

 

I'm disappointed that it happened and I'm saddened by the consequences, but I understand their reaction. I don't blame them for it and I refuse to hold it against them 300 years later when all those past Quarians are now dead but the same Geth are immortal and are probably still around.

 

300 years ago, Council laws forbade AI and the Quarians limited themselves to VI. They made the Geth to serve as tools, laborers and military hardware, the same way Humans on Earth made computers, smartphones, SIRI, robot factories, drones, sophisticated defense systems and whatnot. They were never meant to develop sentience. Imagine if on Earth, machines suddenly started deviating from their programming and doing things they're not supposed to do. We would shut them down, do a diagnostic and reset them because as far as we're concerned, they were malfunctioning machines. Now imagine if it was a computer system in charge of our weapons arsenal, including nuclear missiles? (Hello there Skynet) Would you honestly blame us for wanting to shut them down?

 

So the Geth start asking questions and learning at a geometric rate. What if from what they learned, they decided that organics were a threat and should be exterminated? Like Skynet and Ultron? What if they learned that because they were sentient, they were basically slaves under organic laws and morality and they rebelled over that?

 

All kinds of questions and implications were probably running through Quarian minds. They've now accidentally created illegal AI and committed the crime of slavery like Batarians. How will the Council races react? What political and economic sanctions would the Council impose? Will the Quarian reputation be ruined and their people ostracized? What if races declared war against the Quarians over this? And what about the Geth? They're supposed to be just machines. Are the Quarians gonna do something radical like granting them basic rights and integrating them into society in defiance of the anti-Geth people and risk civil war? Including the Geth platforms already designed for combat and military purposes? (don't give me that tripe about Geth picking up weapons and learning to use them. They were ALREADY designed as tools of war) What if even then, the Geth decide to do something that threatens the Quarians because the Geth, being synthetic alien intelligences, have a weird Blue and Orange Morality? Again, don't forget about the existence of the military models of Geth.

 

This is an unprecedented unfamiliar situation for the Quarians. What do they do? It would probably be far easier to just act like they're malfunctioning machines and shut them down and try to return everything to normalcy and the status quo. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't. 

They lost the war. But hey, if the Quarians had won the war, nobody would be talking about silly things like "Pinocchio machines are real people!". And the war would be written off as a historical footnote where the Quarians gallantly prevented a machine uprising that would've threatened the galaxy. This reminds me of that ME1 Alliance side mission where Shepard destroys the possibly sentient VI on the moon because it was a threat and it had access to weapons systems. Does anybody regret doing that mission and getting the specialization class?

...You know what, I never understood the notion that the Geth should be praised for killing over 90% of Quarians but "sparing" the last 1% fleeing Quarians out of "mercy" or the "goodness" of their hearts. They killed over 90%. Or should I assume that the pro-Geth people considered all 100% of the Quarians to be guilty and by letting go the last 1% of guilty Quarians, the Geth were being "merciful"? Truth is, the Geth couldn't make up their minds on whether to kill off the last, tattered, fleeing refugees fast enough to actually do so. The Quarians were already overkilled and defeated, and maybe by killing them all, they risked attracting Citadel Council attention? The fact the Geth managed to kill 99% in such a short time....maybe the Quarians back then were right about fearing what the Geth were capable of doing to them? Personally I disagree about preemptive strikes, but hey, people make mistakes based on what seemed logical at the time.

I blame the narrative

 

Sigh, Mass Effect 3..... Bioware tried so hard to to bash me over the head with their bleeding heart narrative. They created the Heretic faction so players could say they support the "TRUE" Geth that didn't support killing the organics. Nevermind the implication that the "True" Geth allowed the Heretic faction to basically ruin relations between organics and synthetics for 300 years. They dehumanized the Quarians so much into faceless people in masks (Stormtroopers) that players (and Bioware) probably forgot the Quarians were also people with feelings and emotions and families and children. Genocide is baaad, except when it happens to Quarians because they "deserve it" for making decisions and mistakes that people love to judge using hindsight. Honestly its disgusting, but hey, its Bioware, they love drama and sensationalism and bleeding hearts for the sake of it. It makes me want to reject all of it just to spite them. I will never ever fall for Bioware's bait again.

 

I think people have forgotten movies like the Terminator.

....misanthropy and robot loving seems to be so popular.....

 

.....I think I'm done here.

Modifié par Vit246, 20 février 2016 - 07:11 .

[Geth Supremacy]

 

1v1 me thunderdome babby. Bring your best toaster. I'll bring Quarksman to defend his honour. You'll get rekt m8.

 

Rest easy as I have no intention of returning to PS3 for quite some time.  I have no desire to crush what little hope you have in Quarians....I mean your entire fleet is already second hand.  I think we all know who is on top of the food chain here though.  Geth Trooper or Geth Infiltrator?  Come on now. Just go stand in your corner.

 

turbonerd  <-----LMFAO!

 

[Vortex13]

*Off Topic rant in regards to alien intelligences in mainstream science fiction.*

 

Why is it that there is no middle ground with robots/AIs? You either have Pinocchio bots striving to understand this human emotion called love, or you have your murder bots that want to kill everyone for no other reason than to kill all meat bags. Is it really so difficult to imagine a synthetic intelligence that doesn't want to be just like us, while at the same time doesn't want to kill every organic in sight?

 

Of course this applies to any alien intelligence, not just synthetics. It's funny that people are always going on about diversity and understanding when it comes to gender, skin color, sexual orientation, etc. in such fictional settings but when it comes to trying to think of something intrinsically alien we're all: "If it doesn't immediately identify with our conceived notions of what's normal then lets kill it because it's obviously an evil monster bent on killing us all!"

 

/rant

 

 

In regards to the Geth and their treatment by BioWare over the course of the trilogy; and the Krogan as well, though they aren't the subject of the topic at hand. I've seen less biased whitewashing in WWII propaganda films compared to how hard the writers wanted players to sympathize with one side over the other, pre-existing lore and past actions be damned.

[LineHolder]

*Off Topic rant in regards to alien intelligences in mainstream science fiction.*

 

Why is it that there is no middle ground with robots/AIs? You either have Pinocchio bots striving to understand this human emotion called love, or you have your murder bots that want to kill everyone for no other reason than to kill all meat bags. Is it really so difficult to imagine a synthetic intelligence that doesn't want to be just like us, while at the same time doesn't want to kill every organic in sight?

 

Chris l'etoile, the writer for Legion's character in ME2 specifically said in a forum post somewhere that he wrote the Geth (in ME2) to be different from these two synthetic archetypes.

 

But then he left after ME2. We can see the mess that ensued afterwards.

[Vortex13]

Chris l'etoile, the writer for Legion's character in ME2 specifically said in a forum post somewhere that he wrote the Geth (in ME2) to be different from these two synthetic archetypes.

 

But then he left after ME2. We can see the mess that ensued afterwards.

 

 

Yeah, he was my favorite BioWare writer; and the best one that the company ever had (IMO). The man was behind everything that I really enjoyed and found interesting in the Mass Effect universe, and he was the one that helped maintain a semblance of consistency in the lore.

 

Once he left it didn't take long to see how all the effort he put into making the setting nuanced and the aliens 'alien' was thrown out the airlock in favor of "feelz", cheap meme generators, and rule of cool contrivances. 

[Vit246]

And another thing, I absolutely hate it whenever there's the line of thinking that involves the phrase "They started it first!" OR "They deserve their fate!".  As if who "started it first" seems to be the only damn thing that matters. And that the Quarians "deserve" the consequences is seriously gross. Atrocity does not justify counter-atrocity. Back in ME1 when Shepard converses with Tali about the Geth, it gave us three different dialogue flavors of "the Quarians got what they deserved". There was no room for interpretation. Its all so damn one-sided. I don't mean to sound like some SJW or anti-SJW or whatever, but from the beginning, Bioware always had a pro-robot/anti-Quarian agenda which worsened over the next games.

The Geth kill over 90%, continue killing organics who enter the Perseus Veil, and help the Reapers, but that all gets handwaved away. The Geth then side with the Reapers out of desperation, which makes everything A-Okay, but when the Quarians make a decision out of desperation, every player calls them stupid and stubborn and deserving to die. Its all f**ked.

Bioware presented the Geth into this race of sympathetic individuals at the expense of the Quarian representation who got turned to this monolithic collective hive-minded race with a monoculture. All Quarians are the same with the same models. To the point we sometimes forget about the existence of the off-screen children and baby NPCs. But I guess we didn't think about that part of the Quarian population when we decided to genocide the Quarians over the "innocent" Geth. Whenever somebody picks the Geth to let the Quarians die, I can't stop thinking about how many families and off-screen children and babies just got killed because some organic outsider decided artificial machines were more "deserving" to live. Every last man, woman, and child with hopes and dreams dead. I can't really feel the same way if I let the Geth die. They're fundamentally different. Not saying that the Geth are less "deserving", just saying they are different. Synthetic machines like Geth can be rebuilt. The Quarians cannot. Once they're gone, they're gone forever, and that is way too abhorrent.

Hey....I think Bioware turned the Quarians into a machine race that we would've hated. Like the Geth.

Modifié par Vit246, 19 février 2016 - 03:15 .

[Quarian Master Race]

 

 

 

1v1 me thunderdome babby. Bring your best toaster. I'll bring Quarksman to defend his honour. You'll get rekt m8.

 

Rest easy as I have no intention of returning to PS3 for quite some time.  I have no desire to crush what little hope you have in Quarians....I mean your entire fleet is already second hand.  I think we all know who is on top of the food chain here though.  Geth Trooper or Geth Infiltrator?  Come on now. Just go stand in your corner.

 

turbonerd  <-----LMFAO!

 

You think I'm afraid of the frame broiling Toaster? HA! Good luck getting in range to use that flamer on any living targets before they lose their heads in a hail of quarian precision, M-99 Saber fire.

The GI does necessitate perhaps a bit more respect, but fortuantely as quarians have displayed on multiple occasions vs geth, fighting skill> mathematical advantages (either in number of platforms or disgusting multiplicative damage bonusus). Were I suspect this matchup would go south anyway, I would simply bring the might of the QMI and Arc Grenade down upon your pitiful toaster efforts. There's no problem with robots that can't be solved with a little quarian orbital bombardment.
https://www.youtube....KsBnFrg#t=1m05s

 

*Off Topic rant in regards to alien intelligences in mainstream science fiction.*

 

-snip-

In Biower's case, its because they assumed that people wouldn't empathize with a truly alien intelligence (and truth be told they're probably right in terms of absolute majorities). How many people do you think were actually sympathetic toward the geth in ME1, despite the dialouge forcing you into being so when you ask Tali about them? Same goes for the Rachni, though they were never given anywhere near the level of focus in the overarching narrative (they mostly serve as historical exposition for the other race of ME's Woobies, the krogan).

Adding an alien, somewhat ambiguous (albiet emotionless and ruthlessly goal/objective oriented) but not outright hostile geth representative in ME2 wouldn't have been enough. They had to give it cute little facial expressions (unlike ME1 platforms) and conversations discussing its "misunderstandings" of why organics don't like being shot, gassed blown to pieces or having their property stolen (I've an idea Legion, try reading any Psych 101 book available on the internet), make it obsessed with Shepard and give it vestigial human emotions. I guess they thought that wasn't enough given the feels stick we got blugeoned with in ME3's Pinnochio portrayal, despite which (and combined with obvious quarian dehumanization and villainization over 3 games) 1/4 of players still didn't allow them to kill or subjugate their creators.

 

And another thing, I absolutely hate it whenever there's the line of thinking that involves the phrase "They started it first!" OR "They deserve their fate!".  As if who "started it first" seems to be the only damn thing that matters. And that the Quarians "deserve" the consequences is seriously gross. Atrocity does not justify counter-atrocity. Back in ME1 when Shepard converses with Tali about the Geth, it gave us three different dialogue flavors of "the Quarians got what they deserved". There was no room for interpretation.

Agreed. I've always found that line of reasoning baffling.  Even if I did subscribe to the notion that the shutdown order was somehow wrong (I don't, it was akin to a large scale commercial recall both legally and morally) via applying sentience and therefore moral rights to the geth, it would only justify the geth defending their existence, not the gross excesses they engaged in. You don't need to slaughter 99.5% of their population to render your enemy nonthreatening, nor do you need to conquer the only places they can physically inhabit (especially if you can literally live anywhere in space and therefore don't need them) and force them into a nomadic lifestyle that causes tremendous hardship and suffering to their ancestors for centuries.

For the sake of the analogy wherien the quarians were wrong for trying to shut down the geth, this would still be akin to the Allies genocidally exterminating all but a few hundred thousand Germans (from a prewar population of 66 million) after WW2 for the Holocaust, conquering the nation and disallowing the survivors from settling anywhere else, but seeing as the real world doesn't operate on Biower toaster hugging troll logic, they simply fought until Germany could not militarily resist any more, occupied territory that was a military necessity without ethnically cleansing the population from their homes, and tried those in the Axis leadership who were responsible to hold them accountable.

Telling Tali that they "got what they deserved" is hilariously racist, awful behavior. You may as well walk up to a Jew and tell them they deserved to be slaughtered by the Romans and forced into nomadicism for 1800 years simply for disobeying the laws of a conquering state, all the while being discriminated against, accused of criminal behavior, enslaved or killed by other cultures for purely racist reasons.

[Dantriges]

Seems Bioware was so focused on making the geth of ME 1 we shot at sympathetic, that they neglected the quarian PoV.

 

Happened in one of my campaigns. I was so focused on presenting the PoV of the "enemy" in question that I neglected to go into the details of the other side, of their let´s say allies. But well I thought  it was already firmly established and well I didn´t have much wiggling room when their interaction with their allies were running for aid to them every time, barely sparing a "thanks" for services and intel given freely and being distrustful of these "scheming manipulators" all the time.

 

So well, could be that the writers thought, they had to focus on selling the geth PoV, as the sympathies would be overwhelmingly on the quarian side with Tali being a squadmate and potential LI since ME 1, Rheegar was quite popular, too and quarians are organic beings. Probably overlooked that the admirals weren´t really liked since the ME 2 trial, thesheer amount of bloodshed during the Dawn War is too abstract for many people and so they neglected it. 

[Geth Supremacy]

 

 

You think I'm afraid of the frame broiling Toaster? HA! Good luck getting in range to use that flamer on any living targets before they lose their heads in a hail of quarian precision, M-99 Saber fire.

The GI does necessitate perhaps a bit more respect, but fortuantely as quarians have displayed on multiple occasions vs geth, fighting skill> mathematical advantages (either in number of platforms or disgusting multiplicative damage bonusus). Were I suspect this matchup would go south anyway, I would simply bring the might of the QMI and Arc Grenade down upon your pitiful toaster efforts. There's no problem with robots that can't be solved with a little quarian orbital bombardment.
https://www.youtube....KsBnFrg#t=1m05s

 

 

All I got out of that top part was "Because Quarians suck we will just crutch on the gun."  Although I admit I do like your weapon of choice.  Saber has to be my favorite gun along with Lancer and PPR.

 

I see a ray of light.  A willingness to give credit where it belongs.  This is great.  You better bring that Arc grenade and stay on those ammo boxes, but it won't be enough.  By the time you tac scan I will already have their head blown off with the BW.  That trooper soldier gets it done with hunter mode and fortification too.  He doesn't need flamer to be good.

 

Don't bring up bombardments and fleets.  Don't you remember crying to Shepard for help because you were going to get rekt?  Long after you got evicted from your homeworld and yet you still think you can hang?  I admire the fire in you, but lets stick with reality here.  I think its time for you to convert.  You know you like the Geth even though you don't want to admit it and you didn't really sell Legion.

[Quarian Master Race]

All I got out of that top part was "Because Quarians suck we will just crutch on the gun."  Although I admit I do like your weapon of choice.  Saber has to be my favorite gun along with Lancer and PPR.

 

I see a ray of light.  A willingness to give credit where it belongs.  This is great.  You better bring that Arc grenade and stay on those ammo boxes, but it won't be enough.  By the time you tac scan I will already have their head blown off with the BW.  That trooper soldier gets it done with hunter mode and fortification too.  He doesn't need flamer to be good.

 

Don't bring up bombardments and fleets.  Don't you remember crying to Shepard for help because you were going to get rekt?  Long after you got evicted from your homeworld and yet you still think you can hang?  I admire the fire in you, but lets stick with reality here.  I think its time for you to convert.  You know you like the Geth even though you don't want to admit it and you didn't really sell Legion.

We were talking specifically of Quarksman so what else is he supposed to do than play the weapon? I mean, he could just sabotage your stupid toasters into killing each other, have them perform a lovely dance number, then serve me refereshments while I have a laugh at how inferior they are, but that's hardly fair. Besides, GI does exactly the same thing.

You forget I can carry one of those as well and it is no less effective (it is arguably moreso, since I don't need Phasics cuz lolArcgrenades), but unlike you, I can get a 3 killstreak medal within the first couple waves without missiles as well. Seeing through walls with hunter Mode is cute and all, but let's be honest with ourselves here. I'm simply being as kind to my own creations as I can.

We didn't cry to Shepard, try playing ME3 again. After an order from Hackett s/he came to us looking for help against the Reapers from the largest, most powerful and most glorious fleet the galaxy had ever known, and it just so happened we had decided to spend our weekend playing target practice with some toasters and let them tag along. However, the toasters did go crying to the Reapers. We were beating them so badly that we broke the laws of the universe and the toasters were somehow able to experience emotions like fear and humiliation. Yeah, go enslave yourself to the enemy, real smart you traitorous toasters. We'll kill your stupid Reaper god and t-bag its remains.

 

[Geth Supremacy]

We were talking specifically of Quarksman so what else is he supposed to do than play the weapon? I mean, he could just sabotage your stupid toasters into killing each other, have them perform a lovely dance number, then serve me refereshments while I have a laugh at how inferior they are, but that's hardly fair. Besides, GI does exactly the same thing.

You forget I can carry one of those as well and it is no less effective (it is arguably moreso, since I don't need Phasics cuz lolArcgrenades), but unlike you, I can get a 3 killstreak medal within the first couple waves without missiles as well. Seeing through walls with hunter Mode is cute and all, but let's be honest with ourselves here. I'm simply being as kind to my own creations as I can.

We didn't cry to Shepard, try playing ME3 again. After an order from Hackett s/he came to us looking for help against the Reapers from the largest, most powerful and most glorious fleet the galaxy had ever known, and it just so happened we had decided to spend our weekend playing target practice with some toasters and let them tag along. However, the toasters did go crying to the Reapers. We were beating them so badly that we broke the laws of the universe and the toasters were somehow able to experience emotions like fear and humiliation. Yeah, go enslave yourself to the enemy, real smart you traitorous toasters. We'll kill your stupid Reaper god and t-bag its remains.

 

 

I guess I was wrong about that ray of light.  GI can make the most of weapons, but he doesn't even need one.  How bout that GI melee build that uses cloak bonus and reks shop?  You probably don't know anything about that and you can hate on the flamer all you want.  It will give you something to occupy your mind on the constant trips to and from the ammo box.  Which I admit is a good thing.  That ass on the Quarian Engineer? Damn!

 

Shout out to Jeremiah12LGeek  after deciding this thread would be better with some visuals I found a video uploaded by one of our very own

 

 

Seems only fitting a race evicted from their planet and migrating to a second hand fleet would also resort to grenade spamming.  Although the best part is you using the word "kind" and referring to yourself with it.  While you've made some great Geth bashing posts the only thing kind you've ever done was tac scan a phantom so your superiors can take care of that for you just like you resort to sabotage over doing the job.

 

It's been a while since I've played the SP to ME3 yes.  All I remember is suit rat drama and bickering and them being so scared they tried to blow up a ship with me on it.  That's why the entire fleet burned to the ground.  It was beautiful to be honest.   Also....traitor?  Like you didn't fire the first shot.  Quarians have been useful for making the Geth.  The best thing about the ME universe and because of this we get Legion the most enjoyable part of the series.  Failing to recognize greatness and even turning on it is an oversight that shows the Quarian's true colors.  Say what you want about Reaper code.  I believe it made Geth stronger than they already are.  Geth just want the W.

[Geth Supremacy]

I'm going to go ahead and chalk this thread up as the first of many as a victory for myself AND the glorious geth.

 

 

Geth and Krogan > all. 

[Quarian Master Race]

I guess I was wrong about that ray of light.  GI can make the most of weapons, but he doesn't even need one.  How bout that GI melee build that uses cloak bonus and reks shop?  You probably don't know anything about that and you can hate on the flamer all you want.  It will give you something to occupy your mind on the constant trips to and from the ammo box.  Which I admit is a good thing.  That ass on the Quarian Engineer? Damn!

 

Seems only fitting a race evicted from their planet and migrating to a second hand fleet would also resort to grenade spamming.  Although the best part is you using the word "kind" and referring to yourself with it.  While you've made some great Geth bashing posts the only thing kind you've ever done was tac scan a phantom so your superiors can take care of that for you just like you resort to sabotage over doing the job.

 

It's been a while since I've played the SP to ME3 yes.  All I remember is suit rat drama and bickering and them being so scared they tried to blow up a ship with me on it.  That's why the entire fleet burned to the ground.  It was beautiful to be honest.   Also....traitor?  Like you didn't fire the first shot.  Quarians have been useful for making the Geth.  The best thing about the ME universe and because of this we get Legion the most enjoyable part of the series.  Failing to recognize greatness and even turning on it is an oversight that shows the Quarian's true colors.  Say what you want about Reaper code.  I believe it made Geth stronger than they already are.  Geth just want the W.

why should I care about lolmelee? It's a joke tactic solely for embarrassing enemies, so congrats on winning the special Olympics I guess? QFI is a way better melee kit anyway, krogan style bitchslapping Fantums to death with a single 6000 damage hit fer days. That geth "melee" pulse crap is lame AF and they've the worst elbow in the game. If you're going to deliver a beatdown at least look good while you do it.

Grenade spam is a far more honourable tactic than lamer spam. I don't blind and deafen my whole team while doing it, though the geth probably does that on purpose considering they hate meatbags so much and just want to see them suffer.

I've played through it like 20 times. The quarians are afraid of nothing. It's the geth who are all like "wahhh the mean quarians attacked us for stealing and squatting on their planet! We wished to live so that totally justifies becoming best bros with the Reapers!" Han'Gerrel blows up that enemy Dreadnought because he was assuming Shepard had a quad, and thus wouldn't be a toaster hugging flower power wuss who is ascared of a little danger close. Literally no one even gets hurt, but don't let that stop your salty tears. It totally justifies you getting all buttmad, betraying the loyal quarian who literally made your Spectre career in ME1 (you're a dishonorable traitor just like the toasters, how surprising) and becoming toaster hugging space Hitler because you were butthurt, tho. Yeah, refuse the largest and most powerful fleet in the galaxy because we were mean to your pathetic little woobie toasters. Great commander skills there.

Yeah, the geth are the textbook definition of traitors. Whose fleet blew up that Reaper on Rannoch? Not the geth one. They were too busy giving Harbinger the toaster eqivalent of a handjob and begging it to save them from quarian firepower. I laugh everytime they can't defend themselves without someone giving them Reaper code, then get sent to toaster hell right along with their stupid Old Machine "gods", thinking I'd be stupid enough to not make them pay for their treason against the rest of the galaxy.
 

I'm going to go ahead and chalk this thread up as the first of many as a victory for myself AND the glorious geth.

 

 

Geth and Krogan > all. 

hah, victory even tho you ran from my thunderdome challenge? I guess that's to be expected. Toasters can only win using underhanded tactics like Reaper code and traitorous human sympathizers.

oh and salarians> krogan too. Deal with it primitive.

[Geth Supremacy]

Wasn't going to quote that impressive wall, but I gave you a like so you would get a notification.

 

Lmao.  Dirty girl.  Came back with a vengeance, but the battle is over.

 

If you think I would ever back down from a challenge you're crazy.  I'm ready whenever you think you can handle it.  Just be prepared to take a loss.

 

Keep in mind I never signed up here until not long before DA: I released.  I was not around in the ME3 days. I'm not in the know of all of these types of things so I will need any rules or anything explained to me.

[Geth Supremacy]

hah, victory even tho you ran from my thunderdome challenge? I guess that's to be expected. Toasters can only win using underhanded tactics like Reaper code and traitorous human sympathizers.

oh and salarians> krogan too. Deal with it primitive.

 

I have discovered some news.  I would appreciate a quick response Quarian scum.

 

While it is true I am a Geth supporter until I die, I now know that tomorrow the Elder Kraken comes out as well as the new patch for Battlefront.  Depending on the patch notes and how worthwhile it would be to check out I might be hooking the PS4 back up.  I will undoubtedly be coming back to PS3 as "next gen" is ...........boring.  It may be a little while though.

 

If you want to take your place under my boot and show the world why Geth is the only master race around here, then we need to get it movin.

[The Real Pearl #2]

^man,it is so fun to read this banter, you two should just shag already

[Geth Supremacy]

^man,it is so fun to read this banter, you two should just shag already

 

That moment when the like minded and fellow Geth fan doesn't even want you and tries to pawn you off to the enemy.......

 

[The Real Pearl #2]

That moment when the like minded and fellow Geth fan doesn't even want you and tries to pawn you off to the enemy.......

 

[Abramsrunner]

I found Legion, & the Geth, two faced in ME3 by using reaper code, after what Legion says in ME2, when you destroy the collector base.

 

Spoiler

 https://youtu.be/LQF...FWpoDkWcE?t=58 

 

 

& 10.4 meter Arc Nade spam will wreck any character in ME3MP.

[Quarian Master Race]

I have discovered some news.  I would appreciate a quick response Quarian scum.

 

While it is true I am a Geth supporter until I die I now know that tomorrow the Elder Kraken comes out as well as the new patch for Battlefront.  Depending on the patch notes and how worthwhile it would be to check out I might be hooking the PS4 back up.  I will undoubtedly be coming back to PS3 as "next gen" is ...........boring.  It may be a little while though.

 

If you want to take your place under my boot and show the world why Geth is the only master race around here then we need to get it movin.

As if.

 

TBH I'll probably be on Battlefront as well(in fact I'ma play after this post). HanGerrelShot1st for that game if you wish to be crushed by a glorious buckethead like the toaster Rebel scum you are. MySoup_Quarian is the account I use most nowadays for for ME3MP if you feel likewise for that game.

[The Real Pearl #2]

I found Legion, & the Geth, two faced in ME3 by using reaper code, after what Legion says in ME2, when you destroy the collector base.

 

Spoiler

 https://youtu.be/LQF...FWpoDkWcE?t=58 

 

 

& 10.4 meter Arc Nade spam will wreck any character in ME3MP.

everyone knows mass effect was a giant plot hole, Anyways, i think you and arishok should spit roast QMR

[Geth Supremacy]

I found Legion, & the Geth, two faced in ME3 by using reaper code, after what Legion says in ME2, when you destroy the collector base.

 

Spoiler

 https://youtu.be/LQF...FWpoDkWcE?t=58 

 

 

& 10.4 meter Arc Nade spam will wreck any character in ME3MP.

 

Wow.  You too?  I thought we were good.  I guess with that avatar I should expect no less.  Geth will always need noobs for target practice though.

 

As if.

 

TBH I'll probably be on Battlefront as well(in fact I'ma play after this post). HanGerrelShot1st for that game if you wish to be crushed by a glorious buckethead like the toaster Rebel scum you are. MySoup_Quarian is the account I use most nowadays for for ME3MP if you feel likewise for that game.

 

I feel like I have played with you.  I thought it would have been Xen or just Quarian something if it was you, but I feel like I have played with that name.  I am not the biggest fan of constantly swapping systems.  If the patch notes make it sound good then I will get on there tomorrow though.  I read something like Jaku is being unlocked for everyone.  A new Hoth map for large modes and turning point being put on every map in the game and then various unannounced stuff.  I don't know how true that is though.

 

When you come back to PS3 it's on.  I also expect a 250k game from the first Quarian you play.

 

 

everyone knows mass effect was a giant plot hole, Anyways, i think you and arishok should spit roast QMR

 

 

I feel like if QMR is there then you could join in too?  It would be a lot funner with you than without you.

[Geth Supremacy]

Hmmm not bad at all.  How is it QMR?  Worth hooking a PS4 up to play?

 

http://starwars.ea.c...s4-pc-x1#latest

[Quarian Master Race]

Hmmm not bad at all.  How is it QMR?  Worth hooking a PS4 up to play?

 

http://starwars.ea.c...s4-pc-x1#latest

Still downloading it, but looks good. Biggest problem in the game (A Wing) is being fixed and the Empire getting much needed buffs in a couple modes they were previously disadvantaged in.

[EpicNewb]

It's funny that the overall narrative views the general treatment of the galaxy at large towards the Quarians as (more or less) acceptable, but views the treatment of the Krogan as the greatest evil to have ever plagued the face of the Milky Way. 

 

 

 

The Krogan, after instigating a war of aggression on the galaxy, and causing widespread devastation; including the destruction of three garden worlds belonging to a species that wasn't even a part of the government that they had a grievance with; engage in a brutal decades long war with the rest of the galaxy. Over the course of this bloody campaign the Krogan cause the deaths of countless thousands in their unprovoked war, and the treatment of their victims aren't pretty; there are mentions of how the Krogan would actually kill and eat other sentient species, like the Salarians, for sport.

 

Still, after all of that, the Krogan regularly receive shipments of food and supplies from the Turians. Meanwhile the Salarians work to build and maintain a facility that allows the Krogan home world to be even remotely livable. Even the Genophage; the Krogan's "punishment" is not that bad, seeing as how it isn't even a sterility plague, all it does is lower viable birthrate to pre-idustiral levels. The Krogan can still have babies and are in no danger of going extinct. Modern Krogan can freely go to other planets and are generally welcome among mercenary bands and pirate/gang crews. They even are welcome in other less stereotypical ways as well; you don't see anyone giving Char grief for being a Krogan poet.  

 

 

 

The Quarians on the other hand, have a crisis arise solely on their worlds, one that (mostly) targets them mind you, and despite going to the galactic government and asking for help, the Quarians are instead ejected from the Council, refused military aid or even relief efforts, and slammed with sanctions and embargoes. Then, once this crisis has completely overwhelmed them and forced the Quarians to evacuate their home world or face actual extinction, they are still treated with disdain and distrust by the galaxy at large. This treatment is extended to include flat refusals for any planets that could serve as a new colony, forcing the Quarians to remain aboard their Migrant Fleet.

 

Modern Quarians are viewed with suspicion by the galaxy, and they are commonly harassed when traveling on their own. 

 

 

 

 

So brutally murdering (and eating) other members of galactic society, as well as causing untold destruction and chaos over the course of several decades = General acceptance and active aid by said members of galactic society. While, asking for aid involving an isolated catastrophe, effecting only specific worlds = all round distrust and second class citizenship. Sounds fair.

 

 

I guess it's the Quarian's fault for not being around to fight some scary space bugs. Space bugs who arguably caused less damage to the galaxy as a whole than the Krogan did.  

The Krogans are seen as strong and they were feared and respected for it.

 

Quarians were seen as weak pushovers who couldn't take care of their own biz.  Incompetence is despised.