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[Cyonan]

I tested it for Krysae. The "auto-fire" part still works, but rate of fire doesn't increase (basically, you hold the button, dodge, dodge again, and only then it fires, unlike Scimitar and other guns from videos). It seems that fire rate and animation speed are two separate variables, and even animation cancel won't help you if the fire rate is nerfed.

 

Strange. I know there is two stats that can affect rate of fire(RoF and refire rate), but refire rate on both guns seem to be not there.

 

I guess I'll have to test to see what's going on.

 

 

I am too early for this drunk

 

I live in Aussie land so it's 10 PM right now.

[LoonySpectre]

Two more videos. Falcon's fire-rate doesn't seem to increase too.

[Cyonan]

Interesting. If the Falcon's RoF isn't increasing that would suggest the refire rate can't be overwritten while the ROF can.

 

I guess it's time scrubs. Drunk Cyonan is returning to the field of battle.

[LoonySpectre]

Another way to exploit the mechanics. Juggernaut Argus Magic

[The_Nightman_Cometh]

It's starting to get weird in here.

[Cyonan]

It's starting to get weird in here.

 

Weird is when the ME3 MP forums is at its' best =P

[Sinful Force]

Interesting. Just like how Rocket Troopers are able to fire double rockets by abusing the getting in/out of cover as on of the BioWare employees explained was happening (but he's not fully right, as I see Rocket Trooper fire 2-3 rockets even without abusing this cover system, unless their cancelling out of other animations I'm not away of). But yeah, pretty interesting that we can abuse the same so called BioWare clever use of game mechanics. Totally working as intended as usual (ie. Not). So nice find, OP.

[The_Nightman_Cometh]

Definitely weird in here......That krysae one is crazy..Its amazing how accurate the shots are when spinning around like that.

[LoonySpectre]

More tests show that if you hold the fire button, then run forward a bit and stop, the weapon also fires. This probably was how I originally got my batarian to fire Scimitar quicker than it should have.

And, by the way, the Slayer BC+Talon auto-shot+PD+Talon auto-shot combo is devastating.

[frank_is_crank]

And, by the way, the Slayer BC+Talon auto-shot+PD+Talon auto-shot combo is devastating.

OMG, you're opening pandoras box right now.
But I heartly aprove of a thread containing new game mechanics!

[Cyonan]

The Scimitar is weird.

 

If you hold down the fire button with it, it simply just fires slower than if you mash the button repeatedly.

[LoonySpectre]

The Scimitar is weird.

 

If you hold down the fire button with it, it simply just fires slower than if you mash the button repeatedly.

What does this mean stats-wise?

[Alfonsedode]

More tests show that if you hold the fire button, then run forward a bit and stop, the weapon also fires. This probably was how I originally got my batarian to fire Scimitar quicker than it should have.
And, by the way, the Slayer BC+Talon auto-shot+PD+Talon auto-shot combo is devastating.

what do u mean by talon autoshot ?

On your other tests, i dont see a clear RoF increase, must be that i dont have the rofs in mind

[LoonySpectre]

what do u mean by talon autoshot ?

You use BC, then hold the fire button in flight, and Talon (or any other gun, for that matter) fires upon arrival. Then, without releasing fire button, use PD, and Talon again fires immediately afterwards.

In the videos, I didn't test RoF increase, but rather the mechanic that allows to just hold the trigger button, without repeatedly clicking, and shoot any non-full-auto weapon each time when the character's animation changes (which allows geth to cheat).

[Alfonsedode]

You use BC, then hold the fire button in flight, and Talon (or any other gun, for that matter) fires upon arrival. Then, without releasing fire button, use PD, and Talon again fires immediately afterwards.

cant believe i have lived without knowing that

[LoonySpectre]

You can even do that with Claymore, though then you'll still have to reload.

Update: some more tests. Tactical Cloak doesn't constitute an "animation change" (though light melee cloak of volus does).

[Olivia Wilde]

Oh boy, ME:A really needs to come out this fall, this is getting serious.

It got serious long ago

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

The Scimitar is weird.

 

If you hold down the fire button with it, it simply just fires slower than if you mash the button repeatedly.

I'm sure you have the numbers to confirm this or otherwise, but it always *seems* to me that the BW is the same, namely that the auto fire rate is slower than the max single shot rate.

[LoonySpectre]

Slayer's aforementioned combo. Scrubbing on Gold.

[frank_is_crank]

...but it always *seems* to me that the BW is the same, namely that the auto fire rate is slower than the max single shot rate.

Wait. WAIT! WHAT?
You're not gonna tell me the Black Widow (the sniper rifle, no?) has full-auto as well? And I never knew?
I'm burning in shame.
1v1 me babby.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Wait. WAIT! WHAT?
You're not gonna tell me the Black Widow (the sniper rifle, no?) has full-auto as well? 

I'm not gonna tell you. But if you hold down the trigger, you'll find out for yourself

[Alfonsedode]

I played with my scimitar cryo sol ysterdayn and lots of fire with animation yeah. But all you do is somewhat reaching the Rof of the scimitar when u click it

So Loony, is there some setup where u actually gained something ?
(What the language in your vids ? )

[LoonySpectre]

I played with my scimitar cryo sol ysterdayn and lots of fire with animation yeah. But all you do is somewhat reaching the Rof of the scimitar when u click it

So Loony, is there some setup where u actually gained something ?
(What the language in your vids ? )

Russian.

The most obvious gain is for Slayer, as shown in the video. He gets two free shots with the BC/PD combo. Volus Vanguard can probably do a similar thing with Charge/Biotic Orbs.

Also tested Krysae with Sinful, found it convenient to hold the fire button while sniping, then use some power on the enemy in the scope, and then Krysae immediately fires. The Valiant probably works the same way.

[Angry_Elcor]

More tests show that if you hold the fire button, then run forward a bit and stop, the weapon also fires.

 

That's when you're supposed to stick your right foot in and do the hokey-pokey.

[frank_is_crank]

I'm not gonna tell you. But if you hold down the trigger, you'll find out for yourself

I'm on vacation right now, but as soon as I'm back I'm gonna try. What about the Thunderdome?