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Not sure if this is the best place to post this but couldn't find one that looks better, so here goes...

 

I'm about to do a full playthru of all three Dragon Age games and their DLCs.  I was just going to play inquisition but then found out that the world state carries over so I just wanted to ask how this works, and more specifically, is there a way to screw it up so I can avoid it.

 

I'll be playing Orgins and 2 on Xbox 360 and Inquisition on Xbox One.

 

Also, I found a wiki with a full list of the DLCs for each game.  I have some and not others. Is it best to preload some or all of them before playing each main title or is it better to not, play, then add them one at a time?

 

Never played any of these games aside from a cursory look, so just thought I would ask.

 

Also, I'm very into archer type characters and would like to go with one as my main character all the way through.  Will this be a hindrance at all?

 

Thank you.



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While it's great that you are planning on playing the previous games, you do understand that your choices won't actually be carried over from your saves, right? You'll have to manually remake your saves' choices in the dragon age keep. Just thought I'd mention it since a lot of people still seem to not know that.

 

The classes' playstyle changes with each game. Archer is the most fun in DAI in my opinion, and a bit slow in the first game (fine in the second). A shame you don't have at least Origins on PC since a mod can make the combat 1000 times better. It's quite slow in the first game across all classes.


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The world state for DAI is not imported through the save games, but with the Dragon Age Keep. You don't have to do a full play if you don't want, just set up everything in the DA Keep as you want it and you'll be good to go. Unless you've never played them and have no understanding of the various decisions, then by all means, give it a go.

 

I would say that the only real game and DLC that is required for DAI would be DA2 and it's Legacy DLC, as there are certain characters and story elements that carry over into DAI. That is true for DAO as well, but those are more minor in comparison.

 

That said, after you decide on how you want to play, I would suggest not coming to the forums and asking for opinions unless there is something you don't understand or are stuck on. And even then, the DA WIki can help with most of that. The forum goers have strong opinions, and I don't believe you should let them influence your first play based on what other people say is "the best."

 

As far as "screwing up" goes, the DA Keep is built so that you can't screw up and import conflicting decisions. However, there can sometimes be import issues, but that is usually nothing to do with user error.

 

You can also just forego using the DA Keep at all and jump right into DAI. In that case, you will be playing with a default world state.

 

 

Enjoy.



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When you play through Dragon Age: Origins and start up DA2, you'll be given the option to directly import the save game data from DAO. This will influence a few things in DA2, though not a huge amount.

 

With Dragon Age: Inquisition, there is no direct import option. Instead, you have to go to the Dragon Age Keep (https://dragonagekeep.com/en_US/), register and then manually input your choices from the first two games in the Keep. When you start a new game in DAI, it will ask you if you want to import a world state from the Dragon Age Keep. This will influence a few small things in DAI.

 

As for DLC, you'll want to get The Stone Prisoner, Warden's Keep, Witch Hunt and possibly the Awakening expansion for Dragon Age: Origins. For Dragon Age 2, get Legacy. The other DLC for both games are decent but not essential.



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Thank you very much, guys.

 

That being the case I might just go ahead and start with Inquisition and hold off on the older titles for another time.

 

Thanks again!


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That's probably a good idea. See if you like the series before you spend a gazillion dollars wading into the backstory.


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As for DLC, you'll want to get The Stone Prisoner, Warden's Keep, Witch Hunt and possibly the Awakening expansion for Dragon Age: Origins. For Dragon Age 2, get Legacy. The other DLC for both games are decent but not essential.

 

I don't think Warden's Keep and Witch Hunt are all that essential, especially if you're not interested in Morrigan.

 

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I don't think Warden's Keep and Witch Hunt are all that essential, especially if you're not interested in Morrigan.

 

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Warden's Keep is more important on the XBox 360 since that's the only way to get a storage chest. Also, the events of Warden's Keep get a small nod in Awakening, DA2 and DAI.

 

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That's probably a good idea. See if you like the series before you spend a gazillion dollars wading into the backstory.

 

The base games are pretty cheap these days, although I don't know if that's true of XBox or just PC. However, starting with Inquisition is a good idea because of the massive time investment required to play the first two games and all their DLC. It would take a hundred hours, minimum, and that's time that could be spent finishing Inquisition instead. If you like DAI and want to know more about the world, you could go back and play the others anyway.



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Warden's Keep is more important on the XBox 360 since that's the only way to get a storage chest. Also, the events of Warden's Keep get a small nod in Awakening, DA2 and DAI.

 

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Ah, yeah, I forgot about the storage chest. If you find it useful it would indeed be a good choice to get the DLC. But then you really have to think if you want to spend the money for just a storage chest. As an alternative; I've done 3 DLC-less playthroughs on the 360, I just sold whatever I wanted to keep nearby to Bodahn. If I remember correctly he kept the stuff you sold him in stock, so that could function as a storage chest as well. (Considering gold doesn't really become an issue later on)



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I think Return to Ostagar is rather important for DAO since it gives far greater insight into what is going on behind the scenes before the events in DAO that can explain certain characters' motivations.    I personally feel it should always have been part of the main game, not an add on.



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^ Eh, I think that only makes a difference if you bring a certain character along to hear their reaction. The likelihood that any player did this -- played the DLC late enough in the game, was able to bring along said character, and so on -- is probably very low for any given playthrough. And really, even that person reacts with surprise at the revelation, so it didn't much factor into their motivation.



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Thank you very much, guys.

 

That being the case I might just go ahead and start with Inquisition and hold off on the older titles for another time.

 

Thanks again!

I do not recommend starting with DAI if you really want to understand what's going on. There are events that will be spoiled to you while playing and characters you wont have any idea who are they. If you really mean the whole franchise , then imo it is how you should start:

1. Dragon Age The Stolen Throne (book)

 

2. Dragon Age The Calling (book)

3. Dragon Age Origins 

4. Dragon Age The Silent Grove (comic)

 

5. Dragon Age Those Who Speak (comic)

6. Dragon Age Until We Sleep (comic)

7. Dragon Age II 

8. Dragon Age Asunder (book)

 

9. Dragon Age The Masked Empire (book)

 

10. Dragon Age Last Fight (book)

 

11. Dragon Age Inquisition 

 

12. Dragon Age Magekiller (comic)
 


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I do not recommend starting with DAI if you really want to understand what's going on. There are events that will be spoiled to you while playing and characters you wont have any idea who are they. If you really mean the whole franchise , then imo it is how you should start:

1. Dragon Age The Stolen Throne (book)

 

2. Dragon Age The Calling (book)

3. Dragon Age Origins 

4. Dragon Age The Silent Grove (comic)

 

5. Dragon Age Those Who Speak (comic)

6. Dragon Age Until We Sleep (comic)

7. Dragon Age II 

8. Dragon Age Asunder (book)

 

9. Dragon Age The Masked Empire (book)

 

10. Dragon Age Last Fight (book)

 

11. Dragon Age Inquisition 

 

12. Dragon Age Magekiller (comic)
 

 

I wouldn't recommend starting with the first two novels. They were terrible and enough to put anyone off playing the game.

 

I would recommend starting with Origins rather than Inquisition though.


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Buy Dragon Age Ultimate Edition for $20 ( or less ) .

Then Play 

Lelianas Song

Origins ( with in game dlc, stone prisoner, return to ostagar , warden's keep ) 

The Awakening 

Golems

Witch Hunt

Dragon Age 2

Dragon Age Inquisition 

idk the order for DA:I dlc as I have not played it yet. I believe current DLC missions are side-missions. 



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Buy Dragon Age Ultimate Edition for $20 ( or less ) .
Then Play 
Lelianas Song
Origins ( with in game dlc, stone prisoner, return to ostagar , warden's keep ) 

Hmm...
Even though I'm aware that Lelianas Song describes event happening before DAO, I think there's a point in getting to know her through the base game first, kind of like a flashback.

idk the order for DA:I dlc as I have not played it yet. I believe current DLC missions are side-missions.

The only "mandatory" DLC is Trespasser, the other are entirely optional (but quite fun).

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If you can buy DAO and DA2 with all dlc for a decent price go for it.

 

Which dlc will be important with extra info for you = a totaly personal taste kind of thing.  There is simply no recommandation anyone truly can give.

 

DAO feels a bit outdated on all fronts and is indeed much slower paced as allready mentioned above.  If slow paced is a problem I would rethink buying.  Maybe youtube gameplay to see for yourself.

 

If it is only to get a feel of the lore you can visit youtube channels that give you the story told thru posted cutscenes.

 

https://www.youtube....ChwxDqvWCpoGVrQ

 

This is a channel that captures soly story good.



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I wouldn't recommend starting with the first two novels. They were terrible and enough to put anyone off playing the game.

 

I would recommend starting with Origins rather than Inquisition though.

Hum, yeah. I tried to make it more chronoligical. Personally, I loved the books and  I wish I had read them before I started DAO. Without spoiling too much, reading the first two books will make understanding certain people's motives easier. It is kinda like with The Masked Empire. I hated Gaspard and yesterday I finished reading that book and I was like... Meh... Gaspard has a point. Using other words, the things that seem to be black and white in the game become grey after reading the books :)



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That's probably a good idea. See if you like the series before you spend a gazillion dollars wading into the backstory.

Why would you spend a gazillion dollars wading in to the backstory?  I'm not even sure what that means.



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Yeah, I'd play the stuff in release order, as others have suggested. Big reveals don't have the same impact if you experience them out of order.

You should be able to get the earlier games pretty cheap on eBay or some such. I just took a glance and there are plenty of listings.

DLCs should mostly take care of themselves, since the only sensible way to get DA:O and DAI is to get the complete editions. That just leaves DA2. Annoyingly, the final DA2 DLC is canonical -- your DA2 character did do this mission before DAI happens even if you never buy the DLC.

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I still liked Origins best out of the three games, so in my opinion one should definitely start with Origins. :)



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While it's great that you are planning on playing the previous games, you do understand that your choices won't actually be carried over from your saves, right? You'll have to manually remake your saves' choices in the dragon age keep. Just thought I'd mention it since a lot of people still seem to not know that.

 

The classes' playstyle changes with each game. Archer is the most fun in DAI in my opinion, and a bit slow in the first game (fine in the second). A shame you don't have at least Origins on PC since a mod can make the combat 1000 times better. It's quite slow in the first game across all classes.

I agree with your post, 100%, but I need to translate it for people to understand:
slow = perfection
the slower the combat the more awesome the game
now that I translated it properly it just needs a little fix: "A shame you don't have at least Origins on PC since a mod can make the combat 1000 times better" - yeah, you can, by avoiding everything and anything that could make it faster

Always remeber kids:
God = turn based
demi-gods = dynamic turn based
high priests = slow real time with pause
filthy sinners = real time with pause
putrid satan maimed and crying = action

If you ever see action in a game pray for go almighty, The Turn Based, to save you from this abomination



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Just going for comedy today, Deanna?