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[German Soldier]

If I remember correctly what The Architect said in The Calling, darkspawn neither need to eat to sustain themselves (instead drawing sustenance from the taint), nor do they ever die of old age and their magic si from the taint. They possess remarkable regenerative powers and only die due to bodily damage which is generally in battle, though it would be possible for them to die in ways beside that (like being crushed in a tunnel collapse in the Deep Roads).

Those GW who are heavily tainted are sustained by the taint the problem is however that they are unable to control or resist the calling,Avernus did it at the expense of diminish the power of the taint(this is way he started to aging his researches are incomplete).

So if a GW will be able to remain as such (tainted)but will find a way to block the voices they are virtually immune to aging?

[Dai Grepher]

The cure would likely purify the taint completely. In which case the ex-Warden would age normally.

 

Also, what did the Architect say exactly? I don't remember the taint granting agelessness. I know the Ancient Darkspawn lived for a long time, but Broodmothers are said to have a lifespan. And I also remember Darkspawn feeding on each other all the time. There seems to be some conflicting info about this. I know Avernus increased his own lifespan, but he still aged.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

No, they would still age. The reason Avernus lived as long as he did was because of blood magic. Only Darkspawn are ageless and people infected with the Taint don't become Darkspawn, they become Ghouls. And all Ghouls still age, even special kinds like Broodmothers and Grey Wardens. The exception to this are the Magisters who entered the Black City, like Corypheus and the Architect, but that is a special circumstance.

[Aren]

The cure would likely purify the taint completely. In which case the ex-Warden would age normally.

 

It is a cure against the calling not against the taint or at least it is said that is a quest to cure the calling,meaning prevent the voices

 

No, they would still age. The reason Avernus lived as long as he did was because of blood magic. Only Darkspawn are ageless and people infected with the Taint don't become Darkspawn, they become Ghouls. And all Ghouls still age, even special kinds like Broodmothers and Grey Wardens. The exception to this are the Magisters who entered the Black City, like Corypheus and the Architect, but that is a special circumstance.

Avernus blood magic operated to lock the calling not to cleanse the taint within him,in fact he still remained tainted also Utha despite being much older than Duncan ,she was more or less like 30 years prior to the blight like in the novel .

Larius should be at least 60 years old i think,yet he doesn't seem to have that age.

[In Exile]

The cure would likely purify the taint completely. In which case the ex-Warden would age normally.

 

Also, what did the Architect say exactly? I don't remember the taint granting agelessness. I know the Ancient Darkspawn lived for a long time, but Broodmothers are said to have a lifespan. And I also remember Darkspawn feeding on each other all the time. There seems to be some conflicting info about this. I know Avernus increased his own lifespan, but he still aged.

 

DG confirmed it. Darkspawn are ageless and don't require food. The Blight sustains them. They can eat, but they don't need to eat. 

 

Avernus is implied to have used blood magic to extend his life, not the Blight. 

[Aren]

Avernus used the taint to sustain himself with blood magic,blood magic was a tool that he used to operate with the taint not the source of his extended life .

If darkspawn are ageless because of the corruption why the same should not be applied to GW?

Afterall we never saw a GW dead of old age.

[Dai Grepher]

It is a cure against the calling not against the taint or at least it is said that is a quest to cure the calling,meaning prevent the voices

 

Avernus blood magic operated to lock the calling not to cleanse the taint within him,in fact he still remained tainted also Utha despite being much older than Duncan ,she was more or less like 30 years prior to the blight like in the novel .

Larius should be at least 60 years old i think,yet he doesn't seem to have that age.

 

... That seems rather useless. My understanding was that this would cure the taint completely, and thus knock out the Calling by default. After all, it isn't the Calling that claims your life, it's the taint. The Calling just acts as an alarm clock.

 

I didn't write that Avernus cleansed anything. But I think his agelessness was due to the experimentations and the alchemic concoction. I would think Grey Wardens would still die of old age.

[Dai Grepher]

DG confirmed it. Darkspawn are ageless and don't require food. The Blight sustains them. They can eat, but they don't need to eat. 

 

Avernus is implied to have used blood magic to extend his life, not the Blight. 

 

DG is not a valid source of canon, but I do accept that particular explanation.

 

I think the implication is that he used blood magic to tap in to the powers of the taint.
 

[Dai Grepher]

If darkspawn are ageless because of the corruption why the same should not be applied to GW?

Afterall we never saw a GW dead of old age.

 

Because they are not Darkspawn. The reason we never see a Warden die of old age is because they prefer to die in battle. The alternative is be a ghoul in the Deep Roads and possibly hurt humanity, or become food for the appropriate Broodmother "initiate".

[Aren]

... That seems rather useless. My understanding was that this would cure the taint completely, and thus knock out the Calling by default. After all, it isn't the Calling that claims your life, it's the taint. The Calling just acts as an alarm clock.

 

I didn't write that Avernus cleansed anything. But I think his agelessness was due to the experimentations and the alchemic concoction. I would think Grey Wardens would still die of old age.

The taint don't kill the wardens it is the calling that make them  insane.

[Dai Grepher]

No, the taint destroys their bodies and corrupts their minds. The Calling is just a signal that the old gods or archdemon put out.

[Secret Rare]

GW are not fully tainted even when they become ghouls that's why they aging.

Beyond the ghouls state it is possible that they become darkspawn themselves

[Iakus]

It probably depends on what the cure for the Calling does.

 

If it cleanses the taint, then they would probably become like Fiona:  an ordinary person again, though perhaps immune to the taint.  OTherwise they would age and die normally.

 

If it somehow allows the person to ignore the song of the Old Gods (or whatever the Calling is) while remaining tainted, then I suppose it is possible that the Warden would remain ageless and virtually immortal.

 

I would caution, however, that this would likely come at a high cost.  Blighted creatures (bears, gryphons, wolves, etc) tend to undergo rather horrific physical changes.  Changes that may reflect the increased strength and stamina older wardens are said to gain towards the end of their lives.  If such a metamorphosis were to continue, the Warden may simply come to resemble a free-willed ghoul.  Or worse, something resembling Corypheus or even a brood mother.   This is aside from spreading the taint wherever you go.

 

A "true cure", one that allows for the best of both worlds, would have to be somthing that could arrest the taint's spread without removing it

[Donquijote and 59 others]

It probably depends on what the cure for the Calling does.

 

If it cleanses the taint, then they would probably become like Fiona:  an ordinary person again, though perhaps immune to the taint.  OTherwise they would age and die normally.

 

If it somehow allows the person to ignore the song of the Old Gods (or whatever the Calling is) while remaining tainted, then I suppose it is possible that the Warden would remain ageless and virtually immortal.

 

I would caution, however, that this would likely come at a high cost.  Blighted creatures (bears, gryphons, wolves, etc) tend to undergo rather horrific physical changes.  Changes that may reflect the increased strength and stamina older wardens are said to gain towards the end of their lives.  If such a metamorphosis were to continue, the Warden may simply come to resemble a free-willed ghoul.  Or worse, something resembling Corypheus or even a brood mother.   This is aside from spreading the taint wherever you go.

 

A "true cure", one that allows for the best of both worlds, would have to be somthing that could arrest the taint's spread without removing it

Avernus is reserching a way to use the powers within the taint but remove the poisonus effect of it

[In Exile]

DG is not a valid source of canon, but I do accept that particular explanation.

I think the implication is that he used blood magic to tap in to the powers of the taint.

No - I don't think that follows. Avernus confirms that his life extension has a limit and we've seen pure blood magic used to extend life. We haven't seen the taint actually support life - we just see it corrupt life.

Beyond that, I don't think one cause use blood magic to tap into the taint. The only instance we see of blood magic overlapping with the taint is the joining, and we don't know how that works mechanically. All we see it do is change the speed at which the Blight affects someone.

[Iakus]

No - I don't think that follows. Avernus confirms that his life extension has a limit and we've seen pure blood magic used to extend life. We haven't seen the taint actually support life - we just see it corrupt life.
 

I suppose that depends on whether we can consider darkspawn "alive" or not.

 

But there are hints that the taint is more than simple corruption.  That it is or can be used as, a source of power as well.

[In Exile]

I suppose that depends on whether we can consider darkspawn "alive" or not.

But there are hints that the taint is more than simple corruption. That it is or can be used as, a source of power as well.

The two aren't mutually exclusive. What we do see is that the taint twists everything it affects. The Grey Wardens aren't immune -they just control the source of their infection and pestilence better than those naturally afflicted. But otherwise everything we see connected to the blight - and in thus we should include red lyrium - is a twisted corruption of life.

[German Soldier]

No - I don't think that follows. Avernus confirms that his life extension has a limit and we've seen pure blood magic used to extend life. We haven't seen the taint actually support life - we just see it corrupt life.

Beyond that, I don't think one cause use blood magic to tap into the taint. The only instance we see of blood magic overlapping with the taint is the joining, and we don't know how that works mechanically. All we see it do is change the speed at which the Blight affects someone.

The fact that blood magic can be used to prolong life isn't a good indicator to say that what Avernus did was not use blood magic to tap into the power of the taint.

Darkspawns are ageless because of the taint so it is possible that Avernus prolonged his life with the taint by using blood magic only as the tool.

 

It isn't the only instance since for once the same Avernus used blood magic to develop the power of the blood skill tree which are GW unique related ability based on the taint.

Also the joining and consequently a GW can happen even without those preparations since it is only matter of potency,a person who drink enough darkspawn blood can become a GW without the need of the joining.

[PsychoBlonde]

The cure would likely purify the taint completely. In which case the ex-Warden would age normally.

 

Also, what did the Architect say exactly? I don't remember the taint granting agelessness. I know the Ancient Darkspawn lived for a long time, but Broodmothers are said to have a lifespan. And I also remember Darkspawn feeding on each other all the time. There seems to be some conflicting info about this. I know Avernus increased his own lifespan, but he still aged.

 

Broodmothers are not Darkspawn.  They are advanced (female) ghouls.

Darkspawn are born from Broodmothers, you don't become one by getting tainted.  If you get tainted, you become a ghoul (or, more frequently, die).

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

It is a cure against the calling not against the taint or at least it is said that is a quest to cure the calling,meaning prevent the voices

The one person we know who has received such a cure for The Calling (Fiona) is apparently no longer Tainted. It might be that the Calling cure and the Taint cure are the same thing.

[Secret Rare]

GW are not ageless but disciples are indeed ageless.
I often wonder what the seeker disciple of DAA is doing....

[LadyVaJedi]

Why doesn't Fiona tell how she gotten the cure?

[Kantr]

Why doesn't Fiona tell how she gotten the cure?

She doesn't know. 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

She doesn't know. 

She doesn't tell the Inquisitor what she does know: namely that the Architect accelerated her Taint and then a magic item Duncan stole cured it entirely. But then that might be getting into Warden secrets. Still, if she didn't tell the Wardens I am deeply curious why she didn't.

[Kantr]

She doesn't tell the Inquisitor what she does know: namely that the Architect accelerated her Taint and then a magic item Duncan stole cured it entirely. But then that might be getting into Warden secrets. Still, if she didn't tell the Wardens I am deeply curious why she didn't.

Oh it was something Duncan had that cured her? I thought it was the accelerated tainting that somehow did it.

 

Need to re-read that book.