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[dantares83]

anyone can summaries the companions that you can kill/not recruit or they will leave u if you get their approval low enough? do correct me if i am wrong in the following list:

 

DA:

 

Can die: Alistair (landsmeet), Shale (anvil of the void), Wynne (broken circle, sacred ashes), Zeveran (executed him), Loghain (landsmeet), dog (die if u dont save it) and Sten (theoretically die because lothering is destroyed)

 

retcon: Leliana (sacred ashes)

 

will ask to leave (if approval low): Oghren (approval low and he asked for a fight and u beat him, also retcon), not sure about the others

 

not recruit/send off: all except Morrigan and Alistair?

 

never leave: Morrigan (until the final battle if u reject the dark ritual)

 

final battle: possible to have left with only the warden

 

DAA:

 

can die: Nathaniel (executed him), all (depending on the keep/city thingy)

 

retcon: Anders/Justice (can die if left in the keep/city)

 

will ask to leave (if approval low): not sure

 

not recruit/send off: everyone?

 

never leave: none?

 

final battle: possible to left with only the warden

 

DA2:

 

can die: Merrill (clan n final battle), both siblings (prologue, can additionally kill your own sister if u like), Anders (last battle)

 

will ask to leave (if approval low): all can reject u at the final battle (depending on your rivalry and mage/templar support) except Varric and Carver?

 

not recruit/send off: Fenris and Isabela

 

never leave: Varric

 

final battle: Varric and Carver (if u have him as the surviving sibling)

 

DAI:

 

can die: NONE!

 

will ask to leave (if approval low): Cole, Blackwall and Dorian

 

not recruit/send off: all except Cassandra, Solas and Varric

 

never leave: Cassandra, Solas and Varric

 

final battle: Cassandra, Solas and Varric

[Krypplingz]

You can kick Morrigan out of the party as soon as you reach the first camp. Leliana, Zevran and Wynne want to leave if your approval drops to low. 

You can kill Sigrun and Justice if you side with the Architect and ask too many questions.

Carver and Bethany can kick it in the deep roads. You can tell Anders to take a hike during the third act but the he returns for the finale. Merrill can only die in the final battle.

Iron Bull can die in DAI. 

[Big I]

DAO:

 

Sten always survives and becomes the new Arishok.

 

DA:I

 

Solas always leaves after you kill the Elder One. Dorian is always available as a companion in Trespasser no matter what the state of the relationshio between you two (so you're not left without a mage). Blackwall dies if left in Val Royeaux. Iron Bull dies in Trespasser if loyal to the Qun.

 

Past companions in DA:I

 

if Leliana was killed in DA:O and isn't made Divine, she vanishes (because she's a ghost). Alistair, Loghain and the Champion can all die (probably) in Here Lies the Abyss.

[thats1evildude]

Fenris can die in the final battle.

Blackwall can be left to die in prison. Iron Bull can die in Trespasser.

[dantares83]

blackwall can die?

[almasy87]

Fenris can die in the final battle.

Uh.. what? How can he die in the final battle?

I must have missed that?
 

 

blackwall can die?

You can make him Grey Warden and it's implied in the credits sliders in Trespasser that if you have romanced him he dies.
After the Exalted Council, Warden Thom Rainier was summoned to return to Weisshaupt fortress. Reluctant to leave the side of the woman he loved, Rainier ignored the Wardens' request for nearly a year. When the messages became too urgent to ignore, he left for his duty, promising to return. Weeks turned to months, and then years. The promise remained unfulfilled. Eventually, a gift came to the Inquisitor, unsigned, with no accompanying letter. Wrapped in aged leather was the Warden-Constable's badge and a single pure white griffonfeather.

[thats1evildude]

No, you can just leave Thom in the Orlesian prison. They hang him.

Also, the only companions who can't die in DA2 are Aveline, Varric and Sebastian.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=O5xB1-0ztws

[Tidus]

Sten can die in his cage in Lothering and that usually happens in my games.

 

Never dies/leaves All.. Never found the reason to kill any of the group. In my first two or three games I killed Zevran due to bad information gain through you tube.

 

DA:I Next game I won't recruit Vivi.

[Gervaise]

You can kill Zevran instead of recruit him; he can ask to leave because his approval is so low or he can betray you when you encounter Taliesin.

 

Fenris will confront you in the final battle if you haven't locked him in as either a rival or friend and you side with the mages.    He may not actually die if you give him back to Denarius but the latter brainwashes him back to obedience so effectively "kills" him.

 

Compared with previous games, the number of companions that you can kill or leave to their fate is considerably reduced, particularly if you leave out the temporary companion in the Fade.    I think only Iron Bull (Trespasser) and Blackwall (prison) are the only ones where you have a direct impact on their potential survival.   Others may leave you but aren't daft enough to directly challenge you and thus risk death at your hands.   

[Tidus]

Gervaise, Give Zev a gold bar,Antivan brandy,Dalish gloves and Antivan leather boots and he will become a loyal friend and will fight against Taliesin and his group.

 

Bad information concerning his betrayal  is why I killed him in my first 2-3 games.

 

My warden maintains a 100% group rating so there's no need for killing off my group nor do I take the urn of Andraste's ashes since there is no real need to.

[Arshei]

As they said before, Morrigan can leave, if you don't help her to kill her mother she leaves, if the approval is low she leaves, if you break up with her and say a specific dialogue she leaves, i think it was something like "I can't break up with you if you are still here" - Then I shall leave.

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Fenris can die.

 

I think you can not recruit Merril if you don't want her.

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Iron Bull and Blackwall can die.

[Andraste_Reborn]

blackwall can die?

 

He dies if you leave him in prison, and also if he actually joins the Grey Wardens. If he leaves the Inquisition he eventually turns himself in, so he's dead in those world states as well.

 

Many people don't realize that the Grey Warden ending results in his death, because the game only tells you he's dead if you're romancing him. Word Of Dev is that he always dies if he joins the Wardens, though, which means that both the direct route of sending him there and the indirect one of telling him to maintain the lie lead there. The only way to keep him alive is to do his personal quest, get him out of prison and forgive him without conditions.

[correctamundo]

In DAI you get the chance to kill Cullen in the most despicable way as well.

[nightscrawl]

The only way to keep him alive is to do his personal quest, get him out of prison and forgive him without conditions.

This phrasing isn't entirely accurate because the tone changes based on the dialogue options you choose. My Inquisitor is pissed at him, but makes him stay to atone. I don't "forgive" him anything. His remaining with the Inquisition and fighting against Corypheus IS a condition; he's not free to leave and go wherever.

[Catilina]

Uh.. what? How can he die in the final battle?

I must have missed that?

(Similarly as Merrill way, if you choose the Templars.)

 

If you choose the mages, and you dont have enough frendship/rivalry for his loyality (you did not deserve his respect), Fenris will join to Meredith, and do not leave her, when you ask him (or you do not ask him) at the final battle. In this case, he will be faced you in battle and you need to slay him.  (I also missed this opportunity.)

[MaxQuartiroli]

DA:O - > Alistair and Loghain can do the US

DA:A -> You can slay Velanna on sight the first time you meet her

[dantares83]

DA:A -> You can slay Velanna on sight the first time you meet her

 

 

really? didnt know that.

 

 

 

 

I think you can not recruit Merril if you don't want her.

 

 

i think u have to recruit her because of the Flemeth thingy no?

[MaxQuartiroli]

really? didnt know that.

 

Yes, I never did it but when you capture her you have the choice to kill her immediately.

Mind that once that you have told her that she was wrong the option is gone. 

[KaiserShep]

really? didnt know that.




i think u have to recruit her because of the Flemeth thingy no?

Heh, it was difficult for me to spare Velanna, and I usually spare everyone (except Anders).

[LOLandStuff]

Has anyone tried finishing DA:O with just the Warden?

Kill off Alistair, Wynne, Zevran, Shale, Loghain, dog. Never recruit Leliana, Sten. And have Morrigan and Oghren leave you.

 

Someone should do this.

[Ferretinabun]

Has anyone tried finishing DA:O with just the Warden?

Kill off Alistair, Wynne, Zevran, Shale, Loghain, dog. Never recruit Leliana, Sten. And have Morrigan and Oghren leave you.

 

Someone should do this.

 

Oh yes. Nightmare solo runs were quite the thing back in the day.

 

I never completed mine though because I found it so tedious. Frustratingly difficult too at first but once you got over the difficulty 'hump' (after the first treaty quest) it didn't even really feel like that much of a challenge anymore. 

[Aren]

Of course i did solo run are my passion

[Arshei]

Has anyone tried finishing DA:O with just the Warden?

Kill off Alistair, Wynne, Zevran, Shale, Loghain, dog. Never recruit Leliana, Sten. And have Morrigan and Oghren leave you.

 

Someone should do this.

 

You can't kill Alistair and Loghain, you must choose one, if you kill Loghain, Alistair remain warden or king, he never leaves you, if you kill Alistair, make him king with anora or drunk, Loghain is always with you.

 

 

 

really? didnt know that.

 

 

 

i think u have to recruit her because of the Flemeth thingy no?

 

You are right, there is a dialogue when she ask you to visit her that I thought was reject her in the party

[Andraste_Reborn]

You can't kill Alistair and Loghain, you must choose one, if you kill Loghain, Alistair remain warden or king, he never leaves you, if you kill Alistair, make him king with anora or drunk, Loghain is always with you.

 

Well, technically you can kill them both but only at the very end of the game - have Alistair executed at the Landsmeet then feed Loghain to the Archdemon, or vice versa. Voila, no more companions! Can't do it on a pure solo run, though, because you have to take the relevant Warden with you in order to sacrifice them.

 

This phrasing isn't entirely accurate because the tone changes based on the dialogue options you choose. My Inquisitor is pissed at him, but makes him stay to atone. I don't "forgive" him anything. His remaining with the Inquisition and fighting against Corypheus IS a condition; he's not free to leave and go wherever.

 

You're right, I phrased that poorly.

[nightscrawl]

Has anyone tried finishing DA:O with just the Warden?

Kill off Alistair, Wynne, Zevran, Shale, Loghain, dog. Never recruit Leliana, Sten. And have Morrigan and Oghren leave you.

 

Someone should do this.

 

Hah the final throne room scene would be rather empty. While I would never do this, I think it's more "fun" to actually have no one to turn to rather than simply not bring anyone along on missions (solo plays). I don't know how many solo players actually killed NPCs or refused to recruit rather than leave them at camp.