The only people that deserve full blame for the endings are Hudson and Walters. They wrote the ending themselves and let no one else look at it. Hudson is gone, Walters is lead writer now (The only reason why I can only assume Hudson shouldered most of the blame letting Walters get away unscathed).
Super Mac is the creative director 
. They still haven't hire a lead writer after Schlerf left.
Actually, guys who are in the industry would cut ME3 a lot of slack, since most of its problems come from the deep hole ME1 and ME2 dug the series. ME3 didn't fix the problems, but it was a tough challenge.
You say this like ME1 and ME2 just happened to BioWare. It was a lack of foresight and planning that led to the hole ME3 started in.
ME3 is definitely not just "the bad one." ME1's story was pretty sloppy and ME2 had almost no story at all. And guess what? Mac Walters wasn't lead writer on either of those. It was Drew. His story treatment for ME3 was also a sloppy mess, so all Mac Walters really did was fail to improve on what Drew already came up with.
Series was doomed from the start.
ME3 is definitely not just "the bad one." ME1's story was pretty sloppy and ME2 had almost no story at all. And guess what? Mac Walters wasn't lead writer on either of those. It was Drew. His story treatment for ME3 was also a sloppy mess, so all Mac Walters really did was fail to improve on what Drew already came up with.
Series was doomed from the start.
It wasn't doomed, it had problems of course but they could have been fixed. They werent with a lot of them just rolled over to the next games.
But yeah Drew's "dark energy" thing was in my opinion worse than reapers reaping advanced species to prevent synthetic domination. The real thing that messed up the me3 ending was the starbrat and the 3 choices.
The problem as I see it was that Drew had absolutely no idea where he was going with the whole Reaper thing. Or it seemed like there was no endplan. The idea was cool in the first game and it worked, the whole indoctrination thing, semi-organic ships that have a mind.
Everything up to and including ME2 and all the dlc end made sense, sure it was not bulletproof and had its fair share of mistakes but there was no "this makes absolutely no sense".
And even majority of ME3 still made sense, still everything fitted more or less. I liked Leviathan DLC, it seemed in my opinion a classic scifi storyline.
Anyway I am convinced that a lot of problems on technical and implementation side could have been fixed by extending the development time. As for the ending, it could have been saved if they didn't go for unique(which it wasn't check Deus ex) and "impactful" but instead relied on what they knew and could do well, the kind of ending that you got in DAO.
Super Mac is the creative director
They haven't told us that they hired a new lead writer. Not the same thing.
Hudson and Schlerf left for greener pastures and Gaider was apparently burned out. Hudson gave us the Catalyst so that's no big loss, and Schlerf was an American gun-for-hire. Maybe you should hold off on lighting your hair on fire.
The denial I spoke of? You're exemplifying it.
The denial I spoke of? You're exemplifying it.
Denial of what?
The problem as I see it was that Drew had absolutely no idea where he was going with the whole Reaper thing. Or it seemed like there was no endplan. The idea was cool in the first game and it worked, the whole indoctrination thing, semi-organic ships that have a mind.
Everything up to and including ME2 and all the dlc end made sense, sure it was not bulletproof and had its fair share of mistakes but there was no "this makes absolutely no sense".
ME2 was a bundle of nonsense. It began with poorly explained death-and-resurrection gimmick that was never developed and entirely needless (since the exact same effect, of separating Shepard and building ties to Cerberus, could have been done if Shepard were crippled and rebuilt as a cyborg by a cerberus front), introduced a brand new antagonist faction that could easily have been decisive in the Main Effort but which had no actual rational for acting in ME2 since they couldn't even complete the Human Reaper until the Reapers arrived and invaded come ME3 (at which point they can create a Human reaper anyway), concluded the plot with no actual progress in stopping or even figuring out how to stop the Reapers, slapped new levels of space magic on the franchise with 'essence' of human species, and cavalierly threw away or retconned the conclusion of the last plot just to make the galaxy less prepared for the Reapers, and took pride in an end-game of its own which rendered every companion character disposably and non-critical for all future plots.
These aren't minor tidbits- these are core decisions of the ME2 narrative. What's the sense in choosing these, when none of them were required and all of them could have had far more sensible alternatives?
And even majority of ME3 still made sense, still everything fitted more or less. I liked Leviathan DLC, it seemed in my opinion a classic scifi storyline.
Anyway I am convinced that a lot of problems on technical and implementation side could have been fixed by extending the development time. As for the ending, it could have been saved if they didn't go for unique(which it wasn't check Deus ex) and "impactful" but instead relied on what they knew and could do well, the kind of ending that you got in DAO.
You say this like ME1 and ME2 just happened to BioWare. It was a lack of foresight and planning that led to the hole ME3 started in.
That's his point- that industry people would recognize it, and so cut the dev team of ME3 some slack.
Why do children always put "hurr hurr nice try though" like they just won some game? I mean, if you want to look like a 12-year-old, then be my guest.
Why do internet trolls always try to prove someone wrong and then resort to saying "hey, you're 12", when they themselves are proven wrong?(seems a bit hypocritical considering your childish response) I mean, you suggest that since Hudson wasn't a writer he didn't "give" us anything. Which is objectively false. If you want to continue to be wrong, be my guest.
That's his point- that industry people would recognize it, and so cut the dev team of ME3 some slack.
But the people in charge of ME3 were in charge since ME1. The ME3 team doesn't deserve any slack for digging themselves a hole too deep to climb out of.
But the people in charge of ME3 were in charge since ME1. The ME3 team doesn't deserve any slack for digging themselves a hole too deep to climb out of.
I'd be more forgiving of the game (ME3) itself, than I would be of the writers. ME3 (the game) did well for what it had on its plate. It had way too much to tie up and explain for just a single installment. Which is why I blame the writers for essentially spinning their tires with ME2 and giving us a plot that makes zero progress in the fight or preparation against the Reapers. As you said, they dug themselves a hole. As great as the game was, ME2 was that hole.
All of that is bullocks. You just throw **** up on the wall and see if any of it sticks, huh? A billion dollars? Do you even math?
So let me get this straight. You're purpose here is wait around, for months, to observe disappointment? Wouldn't talking to your parents or lover be a more direct means of observation?
That's his point- that industry people would recognize it, and so cut the dev team of ME3 some slack.
Not so sure why the industry would cut slack on ME3 when they ended a game in a way even a nonprofessional like me could see would cause a huge amount of outrage?
And yes, I saw the uproar coming when the first rumors started coming out after they shot those copies of ME3 into space.
But hey, I'm not a professional. Maybe they have different standards.
Hey, tracking the baloons and checking the woods for leaks was fun 
The denial I spoke of? You're exemplifying it.
Why do internet trolls always try to prove someone wrong and then resort to saying "hey, you're 12", when they themselves are proven wrong?
You haven't proven a single thing in this entire thread.
Neither have you. But thanks for proving my point.
Neither have you. But thanks for proving my point.
You had a point that wasnt "The mean forum people aren't agreeing with me and it makes me mad?"
It's obvious you haven't read a single one of my posts besides the one you quoted and then proceeded to inject yourself into a discussion you have no idea about. But yeah, the point being, trolls usually inject themselves into conversations and end up making zero sense (like yourself). I haven't had a single disagreement in this thread. One individual disagreed with my assessment of Halo 4's writing, and another falsely claimed that Hudson gave nothing to Mass Effect or its fandom because he "wasn't a writer". The latter resorted to name calling. I'd say he was mad. I am nothing but intrigued. It is you who seems a bit angry, hence your hostile post out of left field
But hey, have fun wrongly interpreting posts (or just imagining stuff that never happened), and continuing to look foolish. I don't need to prove that. You did it yourself.
Yeah, go ahead and add saying "you just proved my point" to the list of things you say that don't prove anything.
oh, you proved it so well though. Please continue...
It's obvious you haven't read a single one of my posts besides the one you quoted and then proceeded to inject yourself into a discussion you have no idea about. But yeah, the point being, trolls usually inject themselves into conversations and end up making zero sense (like yourself). I haven't had a single disagreement in this thread. One individual disagreed with my assessment of Halo 4's writing, and another falsely claimed that Hudson gave nothing to Mass Effect or its fandom because he "wasn't a writer". The latter resorted to name calling. I'd say he was mad. I am nothing but intrigued. It is you who seems a bit angry, hence your hostile post out of left field
But hey, have fun wrongly interpreting posts (or just imagining stuff that never happened), and continuing to look foolish. I don't need to prove that. You did it yourself.
oh, you proved it so well though. Please continue...
Yeah, as fun as watching your descent into gibbering nonsense has been, one can only get so much stimulation from trying to discuss reality with an increasingly delusional troll.
Yeah, as fun as watching your descent into gibbering nonsense has been, one can only get so much stimulation from trying to discuss reality with an increasingly delusional troll.
"Descent", as if it hasn't already happened.
Why do internet trolls always try to prove someone wrong and then resort to saying "hey, you're 12", when they themselves are proven wrong?(seems a bit hypocritical considering your childish response) I mean, you suggest that since Hudson wasn't a writer he didn't "give" us anything. Which is objectively false. If you want to continue to be wrong, be my guest.
I'm guessing you're not familiar with what hypocrisy actually is or what it entails, but sure, let's go with whatever you're saying.
And no, Casey Hudson hasn't "given" us anything. The writers are the ones who created the material, Hudson (and Mac Walters) just compiled it together, edited the script, and put it into an order that makes some kind of sense. If you want to say "gee golly thanks Mr. Hudson", you're free to do so, but you would be discounting the other dozen or so writers who actually made the plot points to begin with.
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