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TooThick

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Hi,

 

I bought the game at release, but never played it. I want to begin playing now, and I watched a few gameplay videos on youtube and I saw that you control a party of 4 different classes. So I was wondering, is there any point to creating more than one account or file? Since you can just switch for example from a barbarian to like a wizard or w/e.

 

Which also leads to another question, are there different storylines depending on who you started off with? Like do you play a different story or go to different areas if you make a hunter at start or a rogue, or regardless of which class you start off with you follow the same storyline and go to the same places?

 

And if you have any tips or anything I am all ears. :)

 

Thanks.



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Not sure what you mean....In the single player game you play as one character, and can switch to the others whenever you like.  So in theory you could do every bit of combat as one of your followers and not your own toon.

 

The story is the same no matter what class you start as, but if you're a mage you'll be treated differently.  Also humans and elves are more heavily invested in the story, tho it's still fun to be a dwarf or Qunari.

 

My advice would be to just start.   Just go ahead, make anything that takes your fancy, and play for a while.  I can almost guarantee that after 10 or 20 hours you'll think 'actually I'd rather be this' and restart.  I did that.  :rolleyes:

Also, if you don't know much about the game, stay away from Youtube and the forums until you're done.  I was guilty of looking up everything.

What's the best class, who should I support, what happens if I do that etc etc.  I spoilered myself big time and it ruined quite a few parts of the story, so run!  Save yourself!   ;)

But seriously, if you go in blind and make the decisions you feel are right at the time, and NOT research them, you'll have a fabulous experience.

 

Also, the game will be far more rewarding if you start with Dragon Age: Origins, then Dragon Age 2.  Playing Inquisition without them is like watching the third Lord of the Rings movie without knowing what happened earlier.

 

If you need any more help just ask.  :)



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There are only three different classes in the Dragon Age universe: warrior, rogue, mage. Warriors can tank or use two-hand weapons for damage. Rogues can dual-wield daggers or use a bow. Mages use magic for damage and support.

 

When you play the game, you have your character of whatever class, and also three additional party members among the various classes. You can arrange the party makeup however you want. If you want to have a party of all mages or something, you're free to do that.

 

To your other question, the story is the same regardless of whatever class, race, or gender you play. The main difference will be in some dialogue options and NPC responses based on those things, but other than that, there is no significant change.



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To your other question, the story is the same regardless of whatever class, race, or gender you play. The main difference will be in some dialogue options and NPC responses based on those things, but other than that, there is no significant change.


True, but with one important exception: the race and gender you pick controls which NPC you can complete a Romance with.

Female Elf has the most romance options -- I believe only Cassandra and Dorian are ruled out. Details here:

http://dragonage.wik...e_(Inquisition)


There is a point to creating more than one character (I believe what you meant by "account" and "file"). Actually there are three points.

1) There is a forced quest choice that denies you the other option.

So, to fully experience all the content, you have to play a minimum of two playthroughs. You could do it with one character, by reloading to a save before the forced choice, but why bother doing that? The forced choice happens very early, the equivalent of Act I in a three act play, so replaying the same character through the same content for Act II and Act III is boring (not to be confused with DA2, also trying not to spoil content in DAI). Why not create a new character and try something new?

2) Multiple playthroughs for different victory conditions/difficulty levels

For example, you might do your first playthrough on Casual and focus on story, skipping through most of the combat and crafting. Second playthrough, you might try Nightmare difficulty and focus more on crafting and combat, skipping through the story content you've already seen.

Then there are different victory conditions. I did one playthrough where I did no crafting on Nightmare. I did another where all I did was hunt dragons, I ignored the main quest starting from Act II on. I did another to try out a dwarf Artificer (current run), which I had never played before. And so on.

 

3) There are 3+2 classes and each class has 3 specializations, for a total of 15 specs

 

While it is true there are only 3 classes, the Rogue class has two weapon types, Archer and Dual Wield daggers, and Warrior has two weapons types, Weapon & Shield and Two-Handed, which are sufficiently different that they can be counted as two separate classes. Then each class has three specializations, although the same three specializations apply to both Archer and DW or W&S and 2H. Arguably you have 15 different specs.

 

You can have a maximum of 3 additional party members (4 total) for any given quest or exploration, but, you can swap party members between quests at camps. You can also respec characters fairly easily, though the main class (Mage, Rogue, Warrior) and the specialization can't be changed. Only the weapon type (e.g., convert an Archer to a DW Rogue) or the specific skill set can be changed.

 

So, assuming you acquire all the possible NPC companions, you could theoretically experience all 15 specs in a single playthrough, but it's impractical. You'll find that your character's class and specialization works best with only certain combinations of NPC supporters, so you'll settle on one or two party configurations for the entire game.

 

Which means that to really try all of the specs out, you'll do multiple playthroughs.



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TooThick

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I am sorry, but still slightly confused (don't hate me broz).

 

So if there are 15 companions, and there are 15 different specs you can play, why would you need to make a new account to try another spec? Couldn't you just use one of your 15 companions to try out any spec, whether its DW or 2H? 

 

I do agree with your point on victory conditions. I am assuming you get some in-game achievement for completing nightmare for example without crafting?

 

Also, yes I am the type of person who watches all the youtube videos to become OP. :/



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I am sorry, but still slightly confused (don't hate me broz).

 

So if there are 15 companions, and there are 15 different specs you can play, why would you need to make a new account to try another spec? Couldn't you just use one of your 15 companions to try out any spec, whether its DW or 2H? 

 

I do agree with your point on victory conditions. I am assuming you get some in-game achievement for completing nightmare for example without crafting?

 

Also, yes I am the type of person who watches all the youtube videos to become OP. :/

 

It has been my experience that although you can experience every class via the companions, they will all pale compared to the Inquisitor.  Furthermore, there are abilities that the AI simply refuses to use efficiently, or even fails completely.  So often you will build your companions to avoid these skills, in particular on harder difficulties.

 

You are basically correct, that you can experience each class by swapping companions. 

What is unique, is the way your character can interact with the world around it.  In particular the character-companion interaction (like PapaCharlie pointed out).  You will hear new things, hear new banter, and make awesome discoveries.  There are decisions that shape the outcome of your story, and to see how they play out you can either YouTube or do it yourself.

 

You discover tomes throughout the game that will give you bonus skill points.  This means your character will make a better champion than Blackwall, a better Tempest than Sera, etc. 



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Good point. Thanks all for being so helpful. Going to start with a female human MAGE!


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Good point. Thanks all for being so helpful. Going to start with a female human MAGE!

Excellent choice. Once you get to skyhold, I suggest getting the Knight Enchanter specialization. Lots of fun.



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Excellent choice. Once you get to skyhold, I suggest getting the Knight Enchanter specialization. Lots of fun.

No idea what that means, but will keep my eyes open once I get to a place called Skyhold. 



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I am sorry, but still slightly confused (don't hate me broz).

 

So if there are 15 companions, and there are 15 different specs you can play, why would you need to make a new account to try another spec? Couldn't you just use one of your 15 companions to try out any spec, whether its DW or 2H? 

 

I do agree with your point on victory conditions. I am assuming you get some in-game achievement for completing nightmare for example without crafting?

 

Also, yes I am the type of person who watches all the youtube videos to become OP. :/

 

 

Clarifying some confusion:

 

There are 15 class/weapon type/specialization combinations that your Inquisitor could be.

 

There are 9 possible companions, three Warriors, three Rogues, three Mages. Each of those companions is either exactly one of those combinations, or, is one of two possible combinations.

 

Solas, one of the first companions you will meet, is a Mage. Later in the game, he will get the Rift Mage specialization, so his combo is Mage/Staff/Rift Mage. Mages only have one weapon type, staff, so that's the only combo he will ever be.

 

In comparison, Cassandra, the very first companion you will meet, is a Warrior. Later in the game, she will get the Templar specialization. She starts out as a Weapon & Shield warrior, so Warrior/W&S/Templar, but, if you choose, you can switch her to be a Two-Handed warrior, so she may also be Warrior/2H/Templar. Cass can be either of those combos.

 

Makes sense? Don't worry about what a Rift Mage is vs. a Templar, that will all be explained to you in the game. The point is that you have 9 companions you can get through various quests and each of them are either stuck with exactly one combination, or may have the option of two, because of Weapon Type.