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[Addictress]

Can someone help me understand why compassion is corrupted into despair? I mean conceptually speaking.

I see why justice is related to vengeance. That makes perfect sense.

But compassion...is the feeling of wanting to help someone, to give of oneself voluntarily to benefit others besides yourself.

Despair is more self-centered. It is the loss of hope for your own sake, the personal feeling of hopelessness set against an unrequited will to overcome.

So I don't see the relation.

[Serza]

Maybe the Spirit of Compassion loses all hope it could help others, thus turning into Despair?

[Catilina]

If you saw a lot of suffering, may comes in despair. You know that you can not help everyone.

[Addictress]

Maybe the Spirit of Compassion loses all hope it could help others, thus turning into Despair?

I see, but any spirit could lose hope in achieving its objectives. What if Pride loses hope it can maintain its stature? What if Faith loses hope that it believes in the right things?

[Addictress]

If you saw a lot of suffering, may comes in despair. You know that you can not help everyone.

Okay

I suppose no other....spirit could lose hope in a direct sense like that. Wisdom....can wisdom lose hope? I don't know.

[Addictress]

I guess it's true that essentially, pride and wisdom are not actively trying to achieve anything in the sense compassion is.

[Serza]

Hell if I know, really. Perhaps Wisdom becomes far too proud of the wisdom it possesses, thinking it is better than all, thus becoming a Demon of Pride?

 

I'm grasping really, but I thought I might bring a base for someone to actually come up with a good, bulletproof explanation.

[Addictress]

Hell if I know, really. Perhaps Wisdom becomes far too proud of the wisdom it possesses, thinking it is better than all, thus becoming a Demon of Pride?

I'm grasping really, but I thought I might bring a base for someone to actually come up with a good, bulletproof explanation.

SOLAS IS A DEMON?? :'(

[nightscrawl]

Despair is more self-centered. It is the loss of hope for your own sake, the personal feeling of hopelessness set against an unrequited will to overcome.

I think you explained it perfectly.

If we look at the definitions for compassion -- a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering -- and despair -- loss of hope; hopelessness -- you can say that compassion has the hope that despair lacks, the belief that you can help others to overcome their suffering. Without that hope, compassion sinks into despair because they cannot help.

[Serza]

I'm hoping not. He's the Hahren, after all.

[Addictress]

I think you explained it perfectly.

If we look at the definitions for compassion -- a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering -- and despair -- loss of hope; hopelessness -- you can say that compassion has the hope that despair lacks, the belief that you can help others to overcome their suffering. Without that hope, compassion sinks into despair because they cannot help.

I guess in my entire life I never thought of compassion as being a very active thing. I never distinguished empathy and compassion, but it is true compassion is different from empathy in the fact it MUST include the motivation to act. Otherwise it's just plain old empathy.

[Catilina]

I guess in my entire life I never thought of compassion as being a very active thing. I never distinguished empathy and compassion, but it is true compassion is different from empathy in the fact it MUST include the motivation to act. Otherwise it's just plain old empathy.

I'm not too sensitive, but when I see injustice, for example, I overflow with anger. I suppose, the  compassion is active feeling, than this.