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[Abyss108]

Uhhh, The game caters to teenagers?  Did I just get back over a decade of my life then, since this game perfectly catered to me?

[Al Foley]

Uhhh, The game caters to teenagers?  Did I just get back over a decade of my life then, since this game perfectly catered to me?

About the same here. *giggles*  Besides its rated M too.  An M rating is for people who are eighteen and over, strictly speaking, so it caters to teenagers who will be teenagers for exactly two years...apparently.

[Onewomanarmy]

By Origins style do you mean the grim!dark?

Yeah, the dark story, darkspawn killing etc. Inquisition was a good game and I enjoyed it but it didn't feel like a "dragon age" game to me, cause even DA2 with all its flaws had a good dark story going. I don't know. I think when you look at the hairstyles in Inquisition it's obvious that they tried to be hip or in or something, that they tried to keep up with the young ones. I am not saying anything is wrong with young people, I'm not THAT old myself, I'm 36 but none of da1 or DA2 had punk hair styles for example. It's obvious that they are changing.

[Nefla]

A different ending.  These happen before you defeat Cory and hence aren't 'epilogues'. 

Then they aren't endings either are they?

 

wait what? there are consequences all those are list on the epilogue, like if i exile the Warders they will banish going into extinction. If not they will get into a inter fight with Wardens in Wissoup (i cant remember the name).

 

DA O ending are the same the player always win. Scarifies or no u always win. 

In DA:I you always defeat Corypheus, don't have to sacrifice anything to do it, Solas leaves, you have a party at Skyhold and none of your companions die. It's the same every time. The epilogue slides are not endings and like I keep saying DA:O has them too (have you even played it?) and there are definitely subpar choices that lead to bad slides.

 

In DA:I you always win, no sacrifices required.

 

I wish they would go back to the Origins style again but I don't think that will ever happen, cause they're too busy catering to teenage fans who like punk hair and shooters. I know it hasn't turned into a shooter yet... but it will soon....

Well they DID bring in lyrium machine guns...

[Al Foley]

Yeah, the dark story, darkspawn killing etc. Inquisition was a good game and I enjoyed it but it didn't feel like a "dragon age" game to me, cause even DA2 with all its flaws had a good dark story going. I don't know. I think when you look at the hairstyles in Inquisition it's obvious that they tried to be hip or in or something, that they tried to keep up with the young ones. I am not saying anything is wrong with young people, I'm not THAT old myself, I'm 36 but none of da1 or DA2 had punk hair styles for example. It's obvious that they are changing.

DA Is hair is the same thing where all of the game's other problems came from, trying to release the game on PS4/ PS3.  It watered it down something awful.  And yet its still my favorite ggame of all time.  And as for darkness, well DA Is story was plenty dark, but I think we are going to be in for a wild ride with DA 4.  I think DA 4 easily has the potential to be the darkest story of the series. 

[robertthebard]

I wish they would go back to the Origins style again but I don't think that will ever happen, cause they're too busy catering to teenage fans who like punk hair and shooters. I know it hasn't turned into a shooter yet... but it will soon....

As a 52 year old gamer that loves this game, I resent this troll.  Sure I had issues, KB/M controls sucked, betting that wouldn't be any different if I were a teenaged fan with punk hair, eh?  It's pretty easy to see why you've gone with the name you have, however, since you're coming at this so crabbed that I'm not even sure you're posting in the right forum about the right game.

[Onewomanarmy]

@Nefla I thought that was hilarious with the lyrium machineguns lol. A bit too much over the top. When they first came out shooting, I thought "what the hell?? Am I still in Dragon Age??"

[Onewomanarmy]

As a 52 year old gamer that loves this game, I resent this troll.  Sure I had issues, KB/M controls sucked, betting that wouldn't be any different if I were a teenaged fan with punk hair, eh?  It's pretty easy to see why you've gone with the name you have, however, since you're coming at this so crabbed that I'm not even sure you're posting in the right forum about the right game.

I'm a troll now for stating my opinion? Lol.

Sure, whatever mate xD

[Al Foley]

@Nefla I thought that was hilarious with the lyrium machineguns lol. A bit too much over the top. When they first came out shooting, I thought "what the hell?? Am I still in Dragon Age??"

I thought they were hella brilliant.  I wish more fantasy series took those kinds of risks. Gjve me Muskets with the Qunari in DA 4 please!

[GGTeMpLaR]

Origins was one of the best RPG's ever made.

 

Hard to top that.

[Onewomanarmy]

I thought they were hella brilliant.  I wish more fantasy series took those kinds of risks. Gjve me Muskets with the Qunari in DA 4 please!

Yes I see I see xD

[robertthebard]

I'm a troll now for stating my opinion? Lol.

Sure, whatever mate xD

Really?  So in your opinion anyone that likes this game is a teenaged, punk hair cut, shooter lover, and that's not a troll.

 

Ok mate...

 

Apparently, I was gaming before you were a sparkle in your daddy's eye.  Yet, despite this, based entirely on your approach of "if you disagree you're some derogatory comment, but I'm just stating my opinion", I love this game.  Despite how much you want to categorize me as some punk hair sporting CoD playing teen, I haven't played much in the way of shooters since Doom and Quake were freeware.  I have played CoD, for about 30 minutes with my grandson.  He won, my twitch gaming isn't what it used to be, but frankly, my PC game collection is full of games along the lines of BG, IWD, NWN, and assorted MMOs which include DDO and swtor, the latter probably being the closest to a shooter that I play.

 

So yes, you are a troll.  Deal with the fact that people other than your professed target audience enjoy the game.  If you can't, hit Report Post.  I can deal with yet another warning, or ban, for calling bullshit when I see it.

[KaiserShep]

@Nefla I thought that was hilarious with the lyrium machineguns lol. A bit too much over the top. When they first came out shooting, I thought "what the hell?? Am I still in Dragon Age??"

 

 

I was kinda thrilled to see that stuff, just like I was when I first saw Bianca in DA2. I admit to being all for Dragon Age getting weirder and more laden with whacky fantasy technology. 

[Al Foley]

I was kinda thrilled to see that stuff, just like I was when I first saw Bianca in DA2. I admit to being all for Dragon Age getting weirder and more laden with whacky fantasy technology. 

Combining magic and technology is something so few sci fi or fantasy series do.  Aside from B5 really. 

[Onewomanarmy]

Ahhhhh never change bsn xD

[AlanC9]

Uhhh, The game caters to teenagers?  Did I just get back over a decade of my life then, since this game perfectly catered to me?

In my case, three decades.

[AlanC9]

I'm a troll now for stating my opinion? Lol.

Sure, whatever mate xD

Opinion? You made statements sbout who the games were designed for, and how the franchise was going to evolve. Those aren't questions of personal taste.

[Realmzmaster]

In that line of thinking, why did the Inquisitor need to get the wardens AND Orlais' troops? Why not one or the other, or just the Templars/mages they had recruited? And in the minor side quests from DAO, they might not have been directly relevant to stopping the Blight (though Blackstone Irregulars were recruiting mercenaries for the army) but how was spending weeks traveling to the Hissing Wastes or the Oasis helpful in stopping Corypheus. Or, to be less forgiving, going to any of the zones except for Hinterlands, Crestwood and Western Approach were unnecessary.

 

The Inquisitor does not have to get the wardens. The Inquisitor can exile the wardens or recruit them. That is a choice. DAO gives no choice. The player has to get all three armies.. The Inquisitor attacks the wardens to deprive Corypheus of them. I never said the other zones were necessary, but they are also optional.

 

I could also state that the Inquisitor went to the Hissing Wastes to prevent Corypheus from gaining whatever ancient relics are there which could aid Corypheus's cause. The same with the Western Approach and Forbidden Oasis.  The same reason why in real wars soldiers are sent to prevent the enemy from gaining an advantage in terms of natural or other resources to seemly remote areas.

 

There are no optional areas in DAO which makes it a linear game and very little in terms of simple exploration.

[Realmzmaster]

Interesting, the game caters to a segment of the population that cannot in many places buy the game. I always find it funny when posters make comments like that, because I have games on my self that are older than most of them.

[vbibbi]

The Inquisitor does not have to get the wardens. The Inquisitor can exile the wardens or recruit them. That is a choice. DAO gives no choice. The player has to get all three armies.. The Inquisitor attacks the wardens to deprive Corypheus of them. I never said the other zones were necessary, but they are also optional.

 

I could also state that the Inquisitor went to the Hissing Wastes to prevent Corypheus from gaining whatever ancient relics are there which could aid Corypheus's cause. The same with the Western Approach and Forbidden Oasis.  The same reason why in real wars soldiers are sent to prevent the enemy from gaining an advantage in terms of natural or other resources to seemly remote areas.

 

There are no optional areas in DAO which makes it a linear game and very little in terms of simple exploration.

You're avoiding my point. You're saying that we shouldn't need to recruit all possible armies in DAO, that we're shoehorned into this. But we're just as shoehorned into following the main plot in DAI. Yes we can exile the Wardens, my point was why are we forced to complete both HLtA and WEWH? Why not just do one and then move on to the Temple of Mythal or find Cory's base and assault it?

 

And how is it more logical to think it shouldn't be necessary to recruit as many troops for an army to fight a war than it is to have the leader of an army spend weeks tracking down enemy troops who are searching ruins for weapons, or trying to unlock and ancient oasis temple? Sure, if we could send our agents out to scout those maps out that would be fine, but the Inquisitor is wasting time searching the Hissing Wastes, especially if we've unlocked WPHW on the war table so we can actually continue the main quest. So in real life, generals would wait to strike at the enemy's main base because they want to spend some time following a very weak lead? The reasoning behind both Hissing Wastes and the Oasis are very weak in terms of the story: well, the Venatori are exploring, so we want to find out why and stop them! It's not like we know that the Venatori have found a powerful weapon and are close to unleashing it, they could be on a wild goose chase and come up with nothing. That's ignoring metaknowledge that we get some runes and schematics, hardly game breaking assets against Cory.

[Realmzmaster]

You're avoiding my point. You're saying that we shouldn't need to recruit all possible armies in DAO, that we're shoehorned into this. But we're just as shoehorned into following the main plot in DAI. Yes we can exile the Wardens, my point was why are we forced to complete both HLtA and WEWH? Why not just do one and then move on to the Temple of Mythal or find Cory's base and assault it?

 

And how is it more logical to think it shouldn't be necessary to recruit as many troops for an army to fight a war than it is to have the leader of an army spend weeks tracking down enemy troops who are searching ruins for weapons, or trying to unlock and ancient oasis temple? Sure, if we could send our agents out to scout those maps out that would be fine, but the Inquisitor is wasting time searching the Hissing Wastes, especially if we've unlocked WPHW on the war table so we can actually continue the main quest. So in real life, generals would wait to strike at the enemy's main base because they want to spend some time following a very weak lead? The reasoning behind both Hissing Wastes and the Oasis are very weak in terms of the story: well, the Venatori are exploring, so we want to find out why and stop them! It's not like we know that the Venatori have found a powerful weapon and are close to unleashing it, they could be on a wild goose chase and come up with nothing. That's ignoring metaknowledge that we get some runes and schematics, hardly game breaking assets against Cory.

No I am not avoiding the point. The Hissing Wastes is optional. The Inquisitor does not have to set foot in any of the area that does not lie along the main plot. I think attacking the wardens should be optional. The only one required on the main plot should be WEWH.

 

And yes history is replete with generals who followed so-called weak leads only to find out that they had stop a major breakthrough by the enemy. It is called playing a hunch and it is done often with very incomplete or weak information.  Far better to follow up a so-called weak lead and it be a wild goose chase than to ignore it and hand the enemy a decisive advantage. .

[Nefla]

No I am not avoiding the point. The Hissing Wastes is optional. The Inquisitor does not have to set foot in any of the area that does not lie along the main plot. I think attacking the wardens should be optional. The only one required on the main plot should be WEWH.

 

And yes history is replete with generals who followed so-called weak leads only to find out that they had stop a major breakthrough by the enemy. It is called playing a hunch and it is done often with very incomplete or weak information.  Far better to follow up a so-called weak lead and it be a wild goose chase than to ignore it and hand the enemy a decisive advantage. .

How many of these times throughout history have these generals gone off personally to investigate these weak leads rather than sending underlings and abandoned their leadership role to act like a common soldier/scout?

 

Scout: "General, we have information that a small group of enemy soldiers might be hiding in the forest, we should send a detachment of soldiers to-"

General: "Cool, I'm gonna take my 3 buddies and we'll go wander around the forest and try to find them."

 

Not exactly sound strategy there.

[Al Foley]

How many of these times throughout history have these generals gone off personally to investigate these weak leads rather than sending underlings and abandoned their leadership role to act like a common soldier/scout?

 

Scout: "General, we have information that a small group of enemy soldiers might be hiding in the forest, we should send a detachment of soldiers to-"

General: "Cool, I'm gonna take my 3 buddies and we'll go wander around the forest and try to find them."

 

Not exactly sound strategy there.

But since this is a video game and not a novel its something you have to do. 

[midnight tea]

How many of these times throughout history have these generals gone off personally to investigate these weak leads rather than sending underlings and abandoned their leadership role to act like a common soldier/scout?

 

Scout: "General, we have information that a small group of enemy soldiers might be hiding in the forest, we should send a detachment of soldiers to-"

General: "Cool, I'm gonna take my 3 buddies and we'll go wander around the forest and try to find them."

 

Not exactly sound strategy there.

 

Sorry, but when do exactly Inquisitor and their companions act as common scouts? Not only they move around areas that are rife with magical, demon-spouting portals only Inquisitor can close; most of the tasks are way more substantial than "investigating weak leads" or "getting rid of a handful of soldiers".

[Al Foley]

Sorry, but when do exactly Inquisitor and their companions act as common scouts? Not only they move around areas that are rife with magical, demon-spouting portals only Inquisitor can close; most of the tasks are way more substantial than "investigating weak leads" or "getting rid of a handful of soldiers".

In point of fact most of the weak leads are handled on the war table.