What do you actually lose there when you "lose"? I think this is where people are talking past each other.
He already explained it. The consequence of losing is that you lost. You lose the ability to win before you win, so you're forced to lose and then win before you can really win.
The archdemon soul is utterly destroyed and the blight end,to make the archdemon win it is possible only into the Dlc.But you can lose against the Archdemon. It's called the Ultimate Sacrifice ending.
I will note that, while I wanted some bow-chicka-wow-wow action with Josephine, the romances do get a lot better content than DAO. In Origins, Morrigan and Leliana shared the same sex scene (and default underwear) and on the XBox 360 you couldn't kiss your LI any time you wanted. There were also some dialogues I really felt that were missing in my romance with Leliana, but I never felt while romancing Josie that there was anything missing (aside from the boning).
True. Romances in Origins are kinda like romances in Fallout - unrealistic. DAI was perfect. I can't think of any better romance model than the one in DAI. And the Trespasser DLC was like a cherry on the cake. Really loved what Bioware did with Solas romance. I started by romancing Cullen, then Sera and then Solas. Now every time I start a new gameplay I go for Solas. The romance is very mature, I am kinda glad it has not been ruined by a sex scene (I believe there should be sex scenes, just not in this particular romance), it is very trying but at the same time sooo addicting.
Yeah, and coming back to Fallout 4 ... I romanced Hancock and the romance development was so damn boring that 2 days later I forgot that I even romanced anybody.
And this scene by itself. Honestly if the game were just this scene then it would probably be a better game then DA O.
rofl.... "Dragon Age: Origins" has something very special, which BioWare has not been able to mirror.
Origins was definitely the best out of the three dragon age games. It had it all, the dark story, the deep and developed romances plus villains who was worth fighting against. Companions were all emotional and had a past you wanted to hear about. And the music was amazing!
Inquisition was great too sure but the story was boring. The only good things about it was the crafting and the way they made the romances imo. Everything else was bad. The music was either lacking or it sucked.
Origins was definitely the best out of the three dragon age games. It had it all, the dark story, the deep and developed romances plus villains who was worth fighting against. Companions were all emotional and had a past you wanted to hear about. And the music was amazing!
Inquisition was great too sure but the story was boring. The only good things about it was the crafting and the way they made the romances imo. Everything else was bad. The music was either lacking or it sucked.
People forget:
I never feel any special want for the main villain to be multidimensional, deep and someone you can relate to, or in any way '' human '' so I was fine with Corypheus. He was someone I had to kill, end of story, nothing beyond that. And that is, by all means, all I need in a game where everyone is a possible villain, whether its one of your friends, your allies, the Qun, the elves, Orlais, Ferelden, whoever. Heck, even you are the villain to many in DA:I. Villains are rarely, to me, the most interesting part in any form of entertainment/media. So I really don't care if they are either cartooney nyeh-nyeh-i-will-rule-all villains or allies turned omg edgy and unexpected I actually see his point of wanting to kill everyone villains. As long as you give me a reason to hate and want to defeat them, I'm down, just give me a good story outside of dealing with them directly.
With that said, Solas is amazingly written, and I have such big want to kill him next game. I want his head on a platter, truly.
Inquisition was great too sure but the story was boring. The only good things about it was the crafting and the way they made the romances imo. Everything else was bad. The music was either lacking or it sucked.
Boring?! How was it boring!?
And come on, Dawn Will Come and Thedas Love Theme are great pieces of music...
People forget:
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"Dragon Age: Origins" may have it problems; however, the npc and player character interactions and music were epic. Up until this moment in rpg storytelling, I have never felt emotion from playing a video game. I had goosebumps, tears, and... passion. "Dragon Age: Origins" had everything from irony and tragedy to triumph and betrayal.
Remember, if it were not for "Dragon Age: Origins", the franchise would not even exist.
Out of all the songs in the Dragon Age franchise, the following from Origins gives you goosebumps:
You don't consider having your soul obliterated as losing?
Boring?! How was it boring!?
And come on, Dawn Will Come and Thedas Love Theme are great pieces of music...
Lol I think it was. Origins story was just more deeper and interesting to me. It had that dramatic dark thing over it and had lots of darkspawn. Inquisition had people and bandits. It was too boring to walk around killing those people all the time. I think the setting was pretty but that's not enough.
And I strongly disagree about the music... it sucked big time. The one where they sang with Leliana and Cullen, it was like they had tried to recreate Lelianas song from Originbut failed terribly.
No, to me it's a matter of objective fact. If you didn't put the work in to get the nobles on your side and didn't make the right arguments, then you will lose to Loghain. Fact.
Compare this to Trespasser, where you can't win no matter what you do.
No you still beat him in the end,you can't lose the Landsmeet
For me, Inquisition was a fun but overall disappointing game, a 6 out of 10. It had some really interesting companions (Cole, Dorian, Iron Bull to name a few), cool locations, fun (though dumbed down) combat, and some relatively interesting main quests. However, the whole thing was bugged down by massive, empty areas, MMO like collection quests, dumbed down combat, bad loot system, some quests which where horribly written, and a 1960's batman main villain. So I'm always surprised when people tell me that Inquisition is a better game then Origins, which for me was a solid 9/10, 8/10 on a bad day, and one of my top games of all time. What I want to know is, why do you think that Inquisition was a superior game?
Edit: So my conclusion? We are completely different people. We seem to have completely different tastes to a degree I did not think possible. Things you find interesting I find impossibly boring and I thought what I thought was the norm. But it seems that even boring things hold the interest of some people, and interesting things seem boring to others.
I'm not going to debate who's right or wrong on this subject, because their probably isn't a right answer (unless you like DAII the most, in which case you are clearly wrong), and I'm disappointed that I will never get another Origins from Bioware, but I guess they are going after a different audience to their DAO fans, and I'll just have to find someone different.
Also Abyss108, you are a troll. You must be a Troll.
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Seriously? you are just now grasping that Subjective taste are subjective? That what you think is boring might not be boring to other people? SERIOUSLY? The best part of your arrogance was the assumption that all origin fans agree with you. That origin fans can't find DA:I a better game. Honestly how do people graduate fraking school and not grasp the concept of SUBJECTIVE?
Why I a huge origins fan thinks DA:I is better...
1)I think origins combat is a joke. The tactics system was terrible because if you understood the 'programming language' and created synergies between characters you can literally start combat, go get a coffee and return to pick up your loot. Any combat system that can play itself without the player is an EPIC fail. But i don't play RPGs for their combat. There is less balance to the base classes in Origins vs Inquisition.
2) Open world - I prefer vast open world to narrow tiny zones that look like there were designed specifically for said encounter. One of the origin encounter zones with its traps was so contrived it felt like the entire zone was made to funnel the player through traps because it WAS.
3) There significantly more XP available than is required to advance through the main quests in Inquisition. And this xp is available without having to grind through random spawns to get kill xp to level. You can out level the main quest with ease allowing players to pick and choose what they WANT to do. And realising that it is easy to out level the quest they also remedied this by allowing all encounters to scale to the player's level as a minimum. So you never out levelled anything so combat and quests never got trivial AND if you entered an area of more powerful creatures they were still more powerful. But the great thing was this was an OPTIONAL way to play. So if you liked out levelling zones you could. Origins suffered from you having to do almost all the side quests to be able to survive the arch-demon at the end.
4) The fade is how they interpret it in Inquisition is a hell of a lot more enjoyable to play than in Origins hell it was so bad in origins that I know of countless characters over the years that "died" in the fade. They enter it and players just couldn't be bothered to finish it.
5) Voiced protagonist - i am so over the silent/mute protagonist. I personally find that games improved significantly with this addition and I find it much harder to return to older rpgs that lack this innovation.
I could go into other details but there is little point. I have a SUBJECTIVE opinion that I don't need to justify. Just as people who think DA2 is the best Dragon age game. They are not wrong because there is no RIGHT or wrong answer to a subjective taste. I don't like peaches. Me disliking peaches means frak all to someone who likes them. I do not go around trying to cage my dislike of peaches are some superior refined taste on my part and that other people's liking of peaches is evidence of their casual attitude towards fruit.
I love origins and I still think it is a better dragon age game than Inquisition but i think Inquisition is a better game over all. how is this contradiction rectified? Origins is the perfect game to introduce Thedas to the public and under scores the key theological points of their belief system without preaching. It captures all the necessary information for the player to understand the world. Inquisition doesn't do that as well, its story is too narrow of focus to make for the seminal Dragon age title even if it is the better game.
Lol I think it was. Origins story was just more deeper and interesting to me. It had that dramatic dark thing over it and had lots of darkspawn. Inquisition had people and bandits. It was too boring to walk around killing those people all the time. I think the setting was pretty but that's not enough.
And I strongly disagree about the music... it sucked big time. The one where they sang with Leliana and Cullen, it was like they had tried to recreate Lelianas song from Originbut failed terribly.
...and, that is because Liliana was a love interest. When you have a bunch of people singing, the impact of the music is not personal. "Dragon Age: Origins" was a very unique and awesome experience, which should have echoed throughout the franchise.
"Dragon Age: Origins" reminded me of a darker version of
I didn't. Origins was still a better game. DA:I rolled back really poor choices made in designing DA2, but it still never achieved what Origins accomplished.
Maybe if they hadn't eliminated tactical combat and heavily decreased the difficulty, things might have been different. As it is... DA:I is pretty good for the first 10 levels or so, then suddenly the challenge level of the game drops off significantly..
You can kill the Archdemon, but you could be anything between obliterated or King of Ferelden. You could be the father to a reborn old god.
Inquisition had people and bandits. It was too boring to walk around killing those people all the time. I think the setting was pretty but that's not enough.
So you don't find Inquisition dark yet we are killing actual people who feel, think, love and suffer? I'm pretty sure killing non-darkspawn humanoids who aren't engaging in war to destroy all living creatures is a tad darker than dealing with darkspawn. Well, I'm sure you've made up your mind about what is dark and what is not so I won't bother you further lol.
I thought Inquisition was really dark. Idk.
...and, that is because Liliana was a love interest. When you have a bunch of people singing, the impact of the music is not personal. "Dragon Age: Origins" was a very unique and awesome experience, which should have echoed throughout the franchise.
"Dragon Age: Origins" reminded me of a darker version of
I didn't romance Leliana cause I'm straight female but even so, I completely agree with you, the way she sang alone made it way more personal than when singing with a bunch of people together, I still got that vibe of it being emotional somehow.
And I really liked that music you linked xD
So you don't find Inquisition dark yet we are killing actual people who feel, think, love and suffer? I'm pretty sure killing non-darkspawn humanoids who aren't engaging in war to destroy all living creatures is a tad darker than dealing with darkspawn. Well, I'm sure you've made up your mind about what is dark and what is not so I won't bother you further lol.
I thought Inquisition was really dark. Idk.
You're not bothering me lol. I just don't think it's dark in the same way I guess. DA2 was dark as well for example even though there wasn't really any darkspawn but inquisition wasn't, it lacked something, some "dragon age" thingy. It's hard to explain.
Inquisition is sorely lacking in fleshy sacks and skulls on pikes.
Origins was definitely the best out of the three dragon age games. It had it all, the dark story
Better? No, but a definite step up to DA2.
Why DAO was dark?Because Morrigan blew the candle?Lol
"Dragon Age: Origins" starts out with a tragedy, (elf and human specifically), and then it evolves into a very dark fantasy.
Grey Wardens drink demon blood, so they can fight the onslaught of demons.
Mages struggle with demon possession and blood magic.
Your elf wife/husband gets raped/kidnapped within the first five minutes.
Your family gets betrayed and killed by an ally.
Werewolves and Vampires have their own feud in the background.
Your Warden, male side, can help conceive a demon child through a dark ritual.
Liliana uses sex as a vice, so she can cope with her issues.
Etc...
Don't forget Hespith.
"Dragon Age: Origins" starts out with a tragedy, (elf and human specifically), and then it evolves into a very dark fantasy.
Grey Wardens drink demon blood, so they can fight the onslaught of demons.
Mages struggle with demon possession and blood magic.
Your elf wife/husband gets raped/kidnapped within the first five minutes.
Your family gets betrayed and killed by an ally.
Werewolves and Vampires have their own feud in the background.
Your Warden, male side, can help conceive a demon child through a dark ritual.
Liliana uses sex as a vice, so she can cope with her issues.
Etc...
You summed up everything perfectly which I wanted to say but couldn't word. English isn't my main language, so sometimes it's hard for me to find the right way to describe or tell things the way I want to. This was perfect xD
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