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Because console is the default platform perhaps?

 

Principally because it is a known entity in two flavours (XB/PS) not the endless variant PC builds.
And also because console capability will be the limiting factor across all platforms (aside of some graphical souping up).

 

I sense some disappointment/cynicism in your tone, but surely from a development perspective console will always be where you start.

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LOL

Oh, I agree. It amuses me that the game is developed with PCs.

 

Took a look a VGChartz and came across this table: http://www.vgchartz....=mass effect 3

So, it's understandable but the PC port better be done right.



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A synthetic... I'm seriously not fond of the idea... one slot lost for a new alien on the team ... I've read we have 7 squadmates (can't remember where.... was it on reddit last years ? ) so :

- A krogan (great!)

- A synthetic

- obvioulsy 2 humans (one man and one woman... like Kaidan and Ashley... I'm sure they can't skip that, romances obliged, but I wish they would)

 

3 slots left only. No way. I want much more playable characters, like ME2 !

 

Well, anyways, for now nothing's official so wait and see !

 

To have that many chars in ME2 was the downfall of the series. Mind you, not saying most chars were great and fun (like Mordin) - but the focus on too many characters took the focus too much away from the main-story in my opinion. I'd rather have fewer but thoroughly designed and written characters to care about than the small army of chars we got in ME2 (even more with DLCs included, gosh!)

 

ME1 was okay. Two humans, a Krogan, an Asari, a Turian, a quarian. They should have stuck with those for ME2 and added only one or two new chars, and further develop the ones we had...


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Oh, I agree. It amuses me that the game is developed with PCs.

Took a look a VGChartz and came across this table: http://www.vgchartz....=mass effect 3
So, it's understandable but the PC port better be done right.

VGChartz doesn't count digital sales, which are the bulk of PC sales these days.

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A Krogan outcast engineer mechanic could fit in perfectly plot wise.  He has little chance for glory among his race, so he tags along for a foreign race's expedition.

 

Have you heard any rumors about a male human squaddie?  1 human buddy is enough imo.

 

My preference is also for an Asari to be a non-squad crew member.  A MILF nurse (in keeping up with tradition because Bioware likes em mature) or Yeoman that the main char can bang.

 

I'm not against a Krogan engineer that is relatively apart from the more aggressive mould that both Wrex and Grunt filled in their own ways. I did say Warlord earlier, but I don't require it - I just sorta like the idea of a Warlord providing an 'expansionist' narrative.

Or hey, Drack could be both, for all we know so far haha. Both technical AND krogan-expansionist-ish minded.

 

I would be super surprised if we don't get a male human squadmate. I know we can't always look back in order to know what is coming ahead, but it really does seem super Mass Effect to start a game with a new male human squadmate (Kaidan Eden Prime before Ashley or anyone else, Jacob Lazarus Project before Miranda or anyone else, Anderson London if you count him but if you don't then James along with VS for Mars introduction). Even if they're not the first we get, I still don't see it not happening in itself.

 

I.... would actually be good with no Asari squadmate, at least as long as the Asari still get a significant role, and indeed we have a core NPC (romance?) as Asari. Not everyone would support this, but I even like the concept of Liara returning as Matron or Matriarch, and apart from your combat scenarios except for maybe a future DLC/LOTSB2.0 haha. Because I don't hate Liara, I just got tired of the increasing focus on her.

 

Also to reference my previous expansions idea, I could theoretically take an Asari not happening at first, but then joining in an expansion.



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okay, found a site about it:

 

 http://www.idigitalt...universe-435200

 

Just mentioned a female  companion who can generate "biotic shields" named Cora  Species not mentioned, but the writer speculated that as a female biotic she is "likely" asari

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I don't like his use of the word "CRAFT" as in "...Allow you to craft alien technology..."



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Don't agree. Think they should focus on delving deeper into existing races, not introduce a bunch of new friendly local ones as part of the squad.

 

I'm a fan of a mix. 

 

But if Bioware does want to expand the Andromeda experience into future content/game(s), then sure, this game will probably be better leaning on 'delving deeper into existing races' without such a dire Reaper threat having us skirt the edges of them instead.

 

Still going to be new aliens of course, but so far, I get the sense that we're focused more on the ark-or-whatever and our known aliens, just coming into contact with new aliens. Technically future content and games could change this context, but not for now.



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Then again, Miranda was blonde before she wasn't (good thing too because brunettes are hotter...). Things will probably change by release. Maybe she was a human biotic to start, and now they switched it to Asari.


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VGChartz doesn't count digital sales, which are the bulk of PC sales these days.


Right. Who would buy ME3-PC in a store rather than via Origin? I guess if you have a bandwidth cap it makes sense, but other than that?

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I don't assume this is true. If it were and ME:A follows the typical ME squadmate formula it means....

A krogan (all but confirmed and possibly named Drack). Let's hope they make him a more interesting and multifaceted personality than CRUSH GNAR KILL DESTROY WAHHH GENOPHAGE MUAHAHAH comic relief.

M/F humans (Cora and unidentified male?). Could go either way. I liked Ash, Vega, Kasumi and Zaeed, but disliked/was meh about Miranda, Jack, Kaidan and Jacob.

Another Biower talking Pinnochiotoaster. Literally no interest at all and hope that unlike with EDI I can airlock it ala Legion. Small hope that we get an obedient and actually funny/interesting HK-47 or T3-M4 type free of the cliche'd "toasters are people too" garbage.

Obligatory Ms. Fanservice romanceable Asari, because 4 asari squadmates in 3 games wasn't enough. Would be awesome if they gave us a grunt-style Aethyta esque hard charger who is completely disinterested in embracing eternity, stripping or any of the other cliche'd garbage of the off coloured spacebabe trope.

Only leaves maybe 2-3 spaces for species I'd actually be geniunely interested in seeing more combat capable representatives and perspectives from (quarians especially a male, salarians especially a female, something new like batarian, rachni or andromedan species). Hopefully this isn't true, though it wouldn't surprise me at all. 

 



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Right. Who would buy ME3-PC in a store rather than via Origin? I guess if you have a bandwidth cap it makes sense, but other than that?

 

 

I bought it off'a Amazon, but back then it was simply because Origin was still in its infancy and I had a new prime account and needed something to fill it justify its expense.   If that's not a run-on sentence I don't know what is.

 

But oh well.



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The blonde human and Cora (biotic, race unknown) were mentioned in two different leaks, iirc. Unless I missed something, they could be two completely different characters.

 
I'm going to go with them being the same because I like it. 
 
Ah.
 
Cora, the blonde human female biotic. The initially-core-females for each game were Ashley (Liara was big but NOT initially core), Miranda, and then arguably Liara ('female'). I'd love for Cora to be some best-of mix of all three. Alliance military ready, but deep into this ark project, and an at least pretty powerful biotic. Dunno what explicit faults she'd have but I can very easily imagine the strengths.
 
Also, Cora is a real human female name, often short for other names.
Mythologically, it is also Persephone, meaning maiden, or the daughter of Zeus. This, at least to me continues the Olympus feeling of MEA ('Helius' just to start) where the MET was the underworld. However, Persephone/Cora was also the Queen of the Underworld, yet the vegetation goddess, a rather positive version of what 'underworld' would be. While of the underworld, she was also of the upper levels and was a goddess of nature. Interestingly(?), Kore/Cora/Persephone had relations with Despoina - the name used for Leviathan's planet.

 

Anyone with corrections, feel free.

 

 



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i kinda wish the Krogan character was called Drake rather than Drack.

Then my protagonist could go Michael Biehn and yell during each mission 'Drake, we are leaving!"



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VGChartz doesn't count digital sales, which are the bulk of PC sales these days.

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If I read this Forum Thread correctly ( http://gamrconnect.v...d.php?id=209513 ),  VGChartz does the following:

 

1. Figures quoted by publishers, developers, and manufacturers are taken to be shipped figures, not sold

2.  VGAChartz does not track digital( you are correct).  Figures will be assumed to be both retail and digital combined.

 

The Mass Effect 3 Table chart is interesting in the fact that EA sold more to the Xbox console than the PS and PC. Seeing the popularity of ME3 by Xbox gamers, I  anticipate a similar ratio with ME:A. Which brings me to  DX 12 support question. Has DICE optimized or will optimize the FB engine by the time the game is launched? The DX 12 drivers should be robust by that time.

 

If true, then non DX 12 capable platforms will be at some disadvantage(s) regarding graphics and/or features (ie: FPS).



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Who's the third Kro?

 

From memory we had Wrex and Grunt Krogan

I'll be sad if we don't get a Salarian.

 

I want a Salarian. Combat or the (rare) Biotics oriented.

 

We've only had one Salarian so far. One.

 

We're getting a Krogan but that'd make it the THIRD one! Same with Synthetic! (though Legion arguably was on the border of being a temporary instead of full squadmate, with how ME2's final version happened)

 

 

You know what I'd like? A return to expansions. Main game can have this several characters that mostly reflect another version of ME1 roster (obviously except for the Synthetic or whatever else). But then we get a couple or more expansions that at least mostly include the main group, but then add 1+ more characters each. Lets more characters happen but not get overwhelmed like the devs seemed to be with ME2 and then ME3 results.



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I'll be sad if we don't get a Salarian.

 

I want a Salarian. Combat or the (rare) Biotics oriented.

 

We've only had one Salarian so far. One.

 

We're getting a Krogan but that'd make it the THIRD one! Same with Synthetic! (though Legion arguably was on the border of being a temporary instead of full squadmate, with how ME2's final version happened)

 

 

You know what I'd like? A return to expansions. Main game can have this several characters that mostly reflect another version of ME1 roster (obviously except for the Synthetic or whatever else). But then we get a couple or more expansions that at least mostly include the main group, but then add 1+ more characters each. Lets more characters happen but not get overwhelmed like the devs seemed to be with ME2 and then ME3 results.

 

oh dear, yep, I liked Mordin so much. I played with him all the time during ME2.

 

I would love another male turian on my team because I'm so helpless with turians in general, I assume my addiction...  but I doubt we will have one, even if he's far different from Garrus (I don't want they copy/paste personalities of characters we already had on ME, I want new people). Having a new male turian will open the door to infinite and endless comparisons between him and Garrus. So I think, if we have a turian on the squad, it will be a female. Well, why not !

But let me try a LI with a NPC male turian ! XDDD

 

Also we never had a batarian. Not fond of them at all but I do understand why people ask one, so I'm ok.

Another drell would be also nice

Or a new species

... Blasto ? XD

 

what I would love is the possibility to recruit on some slots (2 or 3) whoever you want on the ship and to approve your team when all the slots for squadmates are occupied. But that would mean a lot of work for Bioware, make a long list of potential playable characters and create many different personalities and backgrounds... but imagine all the possibilities ! and it would be so nice to replay the game with a different team each time....

 

I know, I dream awake -_- better to come back on Earth...!

 

BTW why everybody think Cora is blond? Did I missed a picture somewhere?


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#191
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We can speculate all day. 

 

"Hey, speculation!  AYYYYYY!"

 

Dammit, there's that song again, and I'm so glad you don't have negative votes for posts BSN.



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We can speculate all day. 

 

"Hey, speculation!  AYYYYYY!"

 

Dammit, there's that song again, and I'm so glad you don't have negative votes for posts BSN.

 

Speculation is only fun for so long.... it gets drawn out and overdone, and we see the same threads being repeated. 

 

If this is how it's going to go until EA play, we better hang on for a dry spring. Unless a miracle happens and we get a smidgen of truthful info from Bioware, I see this forum getting pretty stale/ violent until then. :)  



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Speculation is only fun for so long.... it gets drawn out and overdone, and we see the same threads being repeated. 

 

If this is how it's going to go until EA play, we better hang on for a dry spring. Unless a miracle happens and we get a smidgen of truthful info from Bioware, I see this forum getting pretty stale/ violent until then. :)

 

 

True dat.   So thirsty.  We can all become dried up husks of a man like me.   Maybe that's their plan all along.  Frontier of nothing, trudging through it all, high weeds and thistle brushes, so parched that your horse died days ago.  You see nothing but desert in front of you.  Maybe that's what they meant by the song.  Who knows?


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If I read this Forum Thread correctly ( http://gamrconnect.v...d.php?id=209513 ), VGChartz does the following:

1. Figures quoted by publishers, developers, and manufacturers are taken to be shipped figures, not sold
2. VGAChartz does not track digital( you are correct). Figures will be assumed to be both retail and digital combined.

The Mass Effect 3 Table chart is interesting in the fact that EA sold more to the Xbox console than the PS and PC. Seeing the popularity of ME3 by Xbox gamers, I anticipate a similar ratio with ME:A. Which brings me to DX 12 support question. Has DICE optimized or will optimize the FB engine by the time the game is launched? The DX 12 drivers should be robust by that time.

If true, then non DX 12 capable platforms will be at some disadvantage(s) regarding graphics and/or features (ie: FPS).

Since digital sales count as 0 units shipped, now you can see the bias in the data.

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The initially-core-females for each game were Ashley (Liara was big but NOT initially core), Miranda, and then arguably Liara ('female'). I'd love for Cora to be some best-of mix of all three. Alliance military ready, but deep into this ark project, and an at least pretty powerful biotic. Dunno what explicit faults she'd have but I can very easily imagine the strengths.
 

 

Anyone with corrections, feel free.

Lolwut? Liara was arguably the most central and plot important squadmate of ME1. Tali is also required, gets you the recording and makes your career as a Spectre but then gets a mere optional sidemission (geth incursions) related to her after it, as opposed to Liara finding Ilos, being front and center of every post mission debrief if you recruit her early, and getting a plot mission practically tailored to her relationship with her mother(Noveria). Meanwhile her romance arc was pushed far harder than the other two for both sexes of Shepard (large portions of her convos are devoted to how asari have sex, with her blatantly expressing interest in doing so). Then before ME2 came out, she got an entire comic series with 4 issues centered around her (Redemption), and the rest of her core role to the franchise is well known so no need to elucidate on it.

Ash though a required squadmate was hardly plot relevant (not at all if you played a female Shepard), never was fleshed out in any non game media until a single issue of 2013's (post ME3) Foundation, and was basically forgotten as a character after ME1 anyway (Horizon and "good to see you" in the following games, respectively). Miranda was never really core either. She is a plot important and mandatory squadmate in ME2, sure, but is just 1 romance option for a single sex among 2 others, can be killed off within her own game (albiet it takes an essentially deliberate effort), then becomes a Flanderized caricature with barely any attention given to her (except on more arseshots) after ME2.



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To have that many chars in ME2 was the downfall of the series. Mind you, not saying most chars were great and fun (like Mordin) - but the focus on too many characters took the focus too much away from the main-story in my opinion. I'd rather have fewer but thoroughly designed and written characters to care about than the small army of chars we got in ME2 (even more with DLCs included, gosh!)

 

ME1 was okay. Two humans, a Krogan, an Asari, a Turian, a quarian. They should have stuck with those for ME2 and added only one or two new chars, and further develop the ones we had...

I disagree on some points, I've played the game in the same time than 3 other friends and we all made very different teams because we had a large choice of characters. That was interesting,  we lived a  different adventure sometimes because we weren't playing with the same characters (compared to ME1, let's be clear all our teams were all shepard/Garrus/wrex). Sure we didn't like all the characters and some of them are clearly not that great compared to others but the team propose diversity and I like this. Kasumi for example don't have a very deep story or utility, but strangely I played a lot with her.

 

About the story, here I agree, the game was based on recruitments and it bothered me. But I'm sure (well... I hope!) we can find good writers who can combine a long and interesting plot with a large number of playable characters :)



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Who's the third Kro?

 

From memory we had Wrex and Grunt Krogan

 

Third is this one.



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I disagree on some points, I've played the game in the same time than 3 other friends and we all made very different teams because we had a large choice of characters. That was interesting,  we lived a  different adventure sometimes because we weren't playing with the same characters (compared to ME1, let's be clear all our teams were all shepard/Garrus/wrex). Sure we didn't like all the characters and some of them are clearly not that great compared to others but the team propose diversity and I like this. Kasumi for example don't have a very deep story or utility, but strangely I played a lot with her.

 

About the story, here I agree, the game was based on recruitments and it bothered me. But I'm sure (well... I hope!) we can find good writers who can combine a long and interesting plot with a large number of playable characters :)

 

I don't doubt there are writers that could pull this off - I am more concerned about the cold, dead numbers: cramming a game full of characters just for the sake of diversity? Or just for the sake of having many? I am afraid this takes away precious time/ressources from the main story and focus (ME2, but to some degree even DAI I had this feeling somehow...)

 

Nah, I prefer quality over quantity ... but of course more squadmates also mean its more likely everyone finds his/her preffered squad-setup, and not being forced to play with idiots you don't like. But I also have to admit: Once I "fell in love" with some chars I hardly experiment with the others that didn't "click with me" the first seconds (say hello to Jack, Grunt, Samara, Zevran, Sten, Vivienne, Cole (! meh!), Blackwall ... ^^)


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Lolwut? Liara was arguably the most central and plot important squadmate of ME1. Tali is also required, gets you the recording and makes your career as a Spectre but then gets a mere optional sidemission (geth incursions) related to her after it, as opposed to Liara finding Ilos, being front and center of every post mission debrief if you recruit her early, and getting a plot mission practically tailored to her relationship with her mother(Noveria). Meanwhile her romance arc was pushed far harder than the other two for both sexes of Shepard (large portions of her convos are devoted to how asari have sex, with her blatantly expressing interest in doing so). Then before ME2 came out, she got an entire comic series with 4 issues centered around her (Redemption), and the rest of her core role to the franchise is well known so no need to elucidate on it.

Ash though a required squadmate was hardly plot relevant (not at all if you played a female Shepard), never was fleshed out in any non game media until a single issue of 2013's (post ME3) Foundation, and was basically forgotten as a character after ME1 anyway (Horizon and "good to see you" in the following games, respectively). Miranda was never really core either. She is a plot important and mandatory squadmate in ME2, sure, but is just 1 romance option for a single sex among 2 others, can be killed off within her own game (albiet it takes an essentially deliberate effort), then becomes a Flanderized caricature with barely any attention given to her (except on more arseshots) after ME2.

 

 

I think you misunderstand me. By core, all I meant was 'around since the start and playing a role in that'.

 

Liara can be recruited over 1/2 way through the game. As well, she can be involved in only Therum as someone needing rescuing. I hardly consider that core. I consider that as involved with the main plot. You do speak with her after missions, but again, this can only be once or twice if you pick her up after Virmire.

 

Miranda however is part of Lazarus Project, part of Freedom's Progress, a more constant reference, has her Loyalty Mission (that has more to do with the overall design of the game though), and her special line if brought on the final battle.

 

Liara in ME3 however is part of both Mars and Thessia (and From Ashes if you include that, though DLC), also a more constant reference like Miranda, and she's very hard to keep out of your story.

 

I also consider Liara to be the most plot important squadmate in ME1. She just doesn't fit my definition of core. You can go Eden Prime, Citadel, Feros, Novaria, Virmire before even meeting her, and only hearing small mention of her. But I do consider her a very close second, if not the first, if there wasn't for this huge factor.

 

In terms of the comic stuff etc, I was only talking about ME1 in isoloation. When it comes to the whole trilogy scale of things once we got to 2012-2013, yes I consider Liara the most core squadmate, not just for females, but overall. I just think ME1 didn't work as much with that assumption, nor did ME2 even, again in isolation. I feel Liara is the pushed once for ME3 and the trilogy players, not so much if only playing ME1 alone, or ME2 alone.

 

I reiterate - you're talking in longer scale franchise terms when all I meant was for players (often new ones) playing a single game without any connection to others. You're talking about all sorts of secondary media like Foundation instead of just ME1 alone. In ME1 we pick up Ashley and we have her throughout the game and we keep getting her input until at least Virmire (over half way through game). In ME1 we don't have Liara, and we don't get her until at least approaching half way through game (if Therum is done first). Liara CAN be tied into the story the most, and she is ALWAYS arguably the more important character of the 6, not even just compared to Ashley. But she's not the consistently 'core' character you get and probably keep. You can minimize Ashley but she's almost always around. You can minimize Miranda but she's almost always around. You can minimize Liara in ME3 but she's almost always around. Similarly, I consider for example James and EDI to be pretty core to ME3, even if their importance is relatively minimal to progression of plot (they get their single or multiple highlights, but they don't push most of main plot forward). Because they're always around and always *involved*.

 

Again, core to me doesn't = importance. It can mean that, but I err on the side of it meaning 'central to game design', not 'of import to plot'.



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Good idea.

 

We're taking part in a military operation to colonize new planets.

 

An expansion minded Krogan would be perfect.  Plus they know how to share too (Wrex offered to let Shep live on Tuchunka due to how f*cked up Earth was)

I'm not against a Krogan engineer that is relatively apart from the more aggressive mould that both Wrex and Grunt filled in their own ways. I did say Warlord earlier, but I don't require it - I just sorta like the idea of a Warlord providing an 'expansionist' narrative.

Or hey, Drack could be both, for all we know so far haha. Both technical AND krogan-expansionist-ish minded.

 

I would be super surprised if we don't get a male human squadmate. I know we can't always look back in order to know what is coming ahead, but it really does seem super Mass Effect to start a game with a new male human squadmate (Kaidan Eden Prime before Ashley or anyone else, Jacob Lazarus Project before Miranda or anyone else, Anderson London if you count him but if you don't then James along with VS for Mars introduction). Even if they're not the first we get, I still don't see it not happening in itself.

 

I.... would actually be good with no Asari squadmate, at least as long as the Asari still get a significant role, and indeed we have a core NPC (romance?) as Asari. Not everyone would support this, but I even like the concept of Liara returning as Matron or Matriarch, and apart from your combat scenarios except for maybe a future DLC/LOTSB2.0 haha. Because I don't hate Liara, I just got tired of the increasing focus on her.

 

Also to reference my previous expansions idea, I could theoretically take an Asari not happening at first, but then joining in an expansion.