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[greenbrownblue]

I do not know how about you guys, but after Magekiller #2 I decided to keep on purchasing next issues only to check if there are any DA4 spoilers. The art is delicious but Marcus and Tessa did not really catch my heart. Tbh, my first reaction after reading #1 was "Oh my! I hope they won't be our companions in DA4!". I am still hoping that it will get more interesting in #4, but.... yeah..... no huge expectations. 

So , what do you think? Do you like Marcus and Tessa or not really? Is their story interesting enough or you would rather read sth more related to the Trespasser's ending?

[thats1evildude]

For fun. The art is good and I like the characters.

[Heimdall]

Something has to fill the gap between now and DA4...

[myahele]

For fun. Something to tide me over between now and when DA4 is announced

[lynroy]

As a few others have said, I'm reading for fun to fill the gap between games.

[JD Buzz]

For fun. I'm in for the story and it may set the stage for DA4.

[midnight tea]

Both fun and curiosity. These comics are likely filling in some sort of gap between DA3 and 4 and probably introducing characters we'll see in DA4 at some capacity - and I keep wondering what's the role of Marius and Tessa in the bigger story.

 

Will they be new companions? NPCs? Are they a way of "redeeming" Calpernia (show that she cares about someone enough to organize means to escape behind Venatori and Corypheus' back), so she could become our companion without some people going all "whaaaat" about it?

 

The one thing that annoys me so far in the comic is that for the short amount of pages each chapter has, they spend an inordinate amount of time telling us what happened in earlier chapter :/

[nightscrawl]

I think "spoilers" is an incorrect term. I've no doubt it will be connected to DA4 in some way, just as Asunder and The Masked Empire were connected to DAI, but I wouldn't say either either of those novels contained "spoilers."

 

To your question, I am mainly reading it for the lore bits, Tevinter stuff, and because I think it will likely connect to DA4. I don't know if it's this first current arc, but even though I was excited to read it because of the lead-in and overlap with DAI, I'm finding the process tiresome. At this point, I'm hoping that the next arc, post-DAI, will be more compelling. There have been some good bits, but overall I'm not too enthusiastic.

[Chiramu]

I read for the Dragon Age story and lore. A story to read gives me a greater understanding of how real the world is over a codex like The World of Thedas :/. 

[greenbrownblue]

it may set the stage for DA4.

Yeah, exactly a reason why I can't wait for the last issue.

[greenbrownblue]

I read for the Dragon Age story and lore. A story to read gives me a greater understanding of how real the world is over a codex like The World of Thedas :/. 

Well, one of the reasons why I started reading Magekiller too, but there have not appeared any super valuable info yet... *waiting*

[greenbrownblue]

I think "spoilers" is an incorrect term. I've no doubt it will be connected to DA4 in some way, just as Asunder and The Masked Empire were connected to DAI, but I wouldn't say either either of those novels contained "spoilers."

 

To your question, I am mainly reading it for the lore bits, Tevinter stuff, and because I think it will likely connect to DA4. I don't know if it's this first current arc, but even though I was excited to read it because of the lead-in and overlap with DAI, I'm finding the process tiresome. At this point, I'm hoping that the next arc, post-DAI, will be more compelling. There have been some good bits, but overall I'm not too enthusiastic.

Same here. Hopefully #4 and #5 will leave a good after-taste.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

Both fun and curiosity, to be honest. The first issues of a comic series are always the hardest for a writer. Not that Greg Rucka is a newbie (he's a Eisner Award winner), but he needs time to become familiar with this new (for him at least) universe.

[myahele]

I am genuinely curious about Marius' abilities; maybe he'll represent a new specialization?

 

I have to admit, I was indifferent towards the characters before, but now I am liking the duo! It seems rather clear that Calpurnia somehow survived (she even had a short story) just not confirmed yet ... I just hope she doesn't become a companion. I'd rather marius be that.

 

I would not be surprised if they were Inquisitor agents that were fighting in Mythal's Temple (which should allow Calpurnia to escape since they bumped into each other again)

 

Many things seem to be pointing towards Tevinter and dealing with Radonis (and probably picking a new Black Divine)

[Heimdall]

Both fun and curiosity, to be honest. The first issues of a comic series are always the hardest for a writer. Not that Greg Rucka is a newbie (he's a Eisner Award winner), but he needs time to become familiar with this new (for him at least) universe.

I just want him to abandon the obnoxious trying-really-hard-to-be-edgy-and-snarky narration that has filled most of the first three issues. It was okay to start, but I feel like every every issue is still in the setup stage.

[greenbrownblue]

I just want him to abandon the obnoxious trying-really-hard-to-be-edgy-and-snarky narration that has filled most of the first three issues. It was okay to start, but I feel like every every issue is still in the setup stage.

Same here...

[greenbrownblue]

Both fun and curiosity. These comics are likely filling in some sort of gap between DA3 and 4 and probably introducing characters we'll see in DA4 at some capacity - and I keep wondering what's the role of Marius and Tessa in the bigger story.

 

Will they be new companions? NPCs? Are they a way of "redeeming" Calpernia (show that she cares about someone enough to organize means to escape behind Venatori and Corypheus' back), so she could become our companion without some people going all "whaaaat" about it?

 

The one thing that annoys me so far in the comic is that for the short amount of pages each chapter has, they spend an inordinate amount of time telling us what happened in earlier chapter :/

I truly hope that they wont be our companions. I see how magekillers could be needed to take down Solas, but... GOD FORBID, NOOOO! They are too bland and unintresting comparing to Varric, Merril, Solas, Sera, Alistair, etc... Nopenopenopenopenopenope

[midnight tea]

I truly hope that they wont be our companions. I see how magekillers could be needed to take down Solas, but... GOD FORBID, NOOOO! They are too bland and unintresting comparing to Varric, Merril, Solas, Sera, Alistair, etc... Nopenopenopenopenopenope

 

Lol, we haven't yet spent much time with them

 

So far I'd say that they hold potential as interesting characters, rather than being interesting characters themselves, but the truth is we don't know that much about them. They're mercenaries, they kill mages, they're effective (otherwise Radonis wouldn't hie them), they have ties to important houses (Tessa) or characters (Marius) and, apparently, Marius can be a badass on the field, but is a complete doofus when it comes to human interactions or getting jokes, while Tessa may or may not be jealous of the time where she saw Marius kiss Calpernia (interesting! Would we have a love triangle to resolve?)... well that, and apparently Tessa aspires to write a book one day, judging from her narrations ;D

[nightscrawl]

I truly hope that they wont be our companions. I see how magekillers could be needed to take down Solas, but... GOD FORBID, NOOOO! They are too bland and unintresting comparing to Varric, Merril, Solas, Sera, Alistair, etc... Nopenopenopenopenopenope

 

I don't think this is a fair assessment at this time. Right now, everything has been told from Tessa's perspective, since she is narrating the story. We've hardly had any insight at all into how Marius is as a person; part of that is his own closed-off personality, and part of it is the format of this current comic arc. Perhaps the next arc will be from his PoV, like the previous run of comics switched things around. And we're only three issues in.

 

If anything, being companions in a game, speaking with their own voice as independent characters, would bake them more interesting from that aspect alone.

 

That said, I don't want them to be companions either, primarily because it would be another example of ancillary materials being necessary to get the most out of a game. Of course, it's a bit hypocritical of me since I do want Maevaris as a follower... oh well.

[Gervaise]

I'm wondering, how many of the main characters introduced in books/comics actually become companions in subsequent games?    There was Loghain in DAO but that is only towards the end and you already have seen a fair bit of him in game to judge his character by and Cole but that is all isn't it?

 

Admittedly you understand the dynamics of the Orlesian political scene better if you read Masked Empire, and why the relationship between Celene and Briala failed, which is not how it is explained in game, but most of the other characters from books make such a brief appearance it didn't really matter if you had read the novels. 

 

Do you feel that the information in the earlier novels was necessary to understand the story or make decisions in DAI?

[nightscrawl]

I'm wondering, how many of the main characters introduced in books/comics actually become companions in subsequent games?    There was Loghain in DAO but that is only towards the end and you already have seen a fair bit of him in game to judge his character by and Cole but that is all isn't it?

Yepper, Loghain and Cole are it. I only partly count Loghain and I wouldn't have mentioned him on my own. He's not really even the same person as in the novel, shaped by his life experiences as well as the events of the game.
 

Admittedly you understand the dynamics of the Orlesian political scene better if you read Masked Empire, and why the relationship between Celene and Briala failed, which is not how it is explained in game, but most of the other characters from books make such a brief appearance it didn't really matter if you had read the novels. 
 
Do you feel that the information in the earlier novels was necessary to understand the story or make decisions in DAI?

I know there are players who disagree, but I don't feel that any of the novels or other ancillary materials are "necessary" to understand the events of the game, or any of the three games. The reason can be summarized in two words: meta information. Your character is supposed to make decisions based on the information provided to them in the game, whether that is through dialogue, questing, the codex (found journals), and so on. You as the player make the choice based on their role-play: personality, background, etc. If an NPC gives your PC misleading information and they don't find out until after the decision is made, or if the PC later learns something that might have changed the decision, then so be it. That is how decisions are made, and sometimes there are bad decisions, and sometimes you can only pick the lesser of the evils presented. Bad decisions, and regretting those decisions, can also be a part of role-play.

 

Some have said that TME gave the characters more depth, and that is true for all ancillary materials. They give the player more information. But I don't think that information should be taken into consideration when making the role-play choice for your character, neither should meta knowledge on successive plays.

 

Of course, that's not to say that I don't sometimes let meta information influence my own choices, but I try not to. I find I do it most often in regard to dialogue responses, particularly given the paraphrase system.

 

I typically play the same character, with the same RP, repeatedly. The above is the reason I make the same decisions time and time again, and my character is saddled with the same doubts and regrets regarding those decisions time and time again. With regard to WEWH, I use meta knowledge in only one aspect, the five halla door required to get the trio scenario. The result fits my character's RP the best, but I wouldn't know about it for lack of knowledge, particularly as a very gamey device is required to even see it. Even though the initial choice fits my character's RP, he has doubts about it later on, and I incorporate that into his RP.

 

 

But that is my own perspective, and of course other people can play as they wish. It is a personal preference only, and I do not think it's indicative of "bad writing."

 

That said, one area the writers did fail the player was in relating accurately the scope of the Orlesian civil war. I don't think it was large enough. By all accounts, it should have greatly impacted the entire region, even bleeding over into neighboring countries as it would have been detrimental to trade. Orlais is the largest, most influential nation in the South. Instability of that nation should be shown to affect the entire region, but it wasn't.

[Marika Haliwell]

For fun, lore, because it's DA and because of Marius and Tessa

[SomberXIII]

I truly hope that they wont be our companions. I see how magekillers could be needed to take down Solas, but... GOD FORBID, NOOOO! They are too bland and unintresting comparing to Varric, Merril, Solas, Sera, Alistair, etc... Nopenopenopenopenopenope

It's not a fair judgement for comics characters to be compared with video game characters. You can spend hours with Varric, Merrill and the others but Magekillers are just still the illustrations on papers. So it is really not the time for the comparison. Have patience.

[Pokemario]

I'm not a fan of comics, and the issues seem to be rather short. I'm mostly reading it to see if there are any (interesting) plot revelations.

[Nefla]

There aren't really DA4 spoilers in this comic are there? I'm tired of BW expecting us to read a bunch of EU instead of fleshing out the actual game