I wanted to see CAT6 character in MP.
Omni-shield in one hand and machinegun in the other. Bash those madafakas to the ground and give them hails of gunfire. My dream.
I would've liked them as an enemy faction. They combined most of the trolliness of Cerberus (OHK on shields), Geth (suicide stagger drones) and Collectors (cluster nades) into one quite frustrating package.
I would've liked them as an enemy faction. They combined most of the trolliness of Cerberus (OHK on shields), Geth (suicide stagger drones) and Collectors (cluster nades) into one quite frustrating package.
It is still too similar to Cerb.
Two things I noticed,
1. The Banshee screams in the AAA are more subdued than the counterparts in MP. BIOWER PLS, copy this sound onto the Banshees in the multiplayer.
2. There are quite a few funny quips about multiplayer tactics made by NPCs in the Silversun Strip. One that comes to mind,
Female Human Infiltrator: "We were dropped into a location to deactivate Reaper indoctrination devices. But there was this Ex-Cerberus Vanguard that was adamant about being the one to deactivate them. He kept falling down. I told him, 'let me do it, I can cloak!' But he still wouldn't listen.
Vorcha: "Yes, infiltrators good for devices".
Pro-Quarian rant with the missed attempt to use the bare-handed droid.beating Mace Windu gif if we are referencing the original CN CW
"Wait, you're Cerberus? You created Number 6, who got lose, uploaded itself into a sexbot, came back ,hacked your secret base and ended up killing all your guys. And you tried to control our toasters (project Overlord) and they got loose, created a toaster out of an autistic guy, and ended up killing all your guys. Not much room to talk there, bub."
I would rather think of the first part as helping out a fellow human. Caring about the disabled is important, not to mention that love can be the best therapy as it conquers all (except the Reapers. Those things are huge, that's why we want to control them). For the latter part, you might think that, I couldn't possibly comment.
"In combat, geth units show little sense of self-preservation....."
I really wonder where could they learn that strategy (looks at Han'Gerrel).
"It's objectively the strongest. The quarians have 875 maximum war assets in ME3, 780 of which come from the Fleet. Predictably, the next closest are our creations the geth at 815 total and 455 fleet maximums, respectively. No one else's even gets close. I thought you humans had already discovered mathematics?"
I have looked up this so-called mathematics and went back to check my war assets. The greatest number belongs to the Alliance - N7 Special Ops. I'm looking up the Quarians... where are they hmm... oh wait, nevermind, they showed little sense of self-preservation, they placed little value on their forces and expended thousands of units to take their homeworld an enemy planet.
"I completely agree. We quarians are above petty, racist grudges and will gladly save the homeworlds of lesser species. Meanwhile you guys are far more fun to headshot, burn, blow up, electrocute and bludgeon to death than toasters or husks while we do it."
Racial prejudice is a terrible thing, QMR. It really is. It's a terrible thing to treat a decent, loyal Cerberus operative like a Quarian, a Salarian, an Asari, or a Turian.
"You've never met Jayne'Kal Reegar or Admiral Tali'Zorah vas Claymoar eh?"
You wanted to say, Claymoar vas Tali'Zorah? There is an old saying: "It is not the Quarian who carries the Claymore, it is the Claymore who carries the Quarian." Also, that you mentioned rare things, I like collecting old and rare things. You might say... I am an antiquarian.
"Fine then, how many bloviating, Cthulu wannabe toasters have your orbital shells reduced to scrap and glass today?"
That would be a waste of future resources. Never destroy something which you can control later.
"As another member of the glorious Master Race once said..."
Master Race? You fanatically like Quarians. Where is this world going? What's next, someone who declares that glorious, fat, no-dodge Turians are the best?
Two things I noticed,
1. The Banshee screams in the AAA are more subdued than the counterparts in MP. BIOWER PLS, copy this sound onto the Banshees in the multiplayer.
2. There are quite a few funny quips about multiplayer tactics made by NPCs in the Silversun Strip. One that comes to mind,
Female Human Infiltrator: "We were dropped into a location to deactivate Reaper indoctrination devices. But there was this Ex-Cerberus Vanguard that was adamant about being the one to deactivate them. He kept falling down. I told him, 'let me do it, I can cloak!' But he still wouldn't listen.
Vorcha: "Yes, infiltrators good for devices".
Okay, this. This ACTUALLY happened to me IN Multiplayer mode.
I'm in Silver with a bunch of people and it's "deactivate the devices" time, so I, an Infiltrator (I think I was an N7 Shadow or Drell Assassin), go about looking for the device and you know who tried to race me to it?
A PHOENIX VANGUARD.
Like, I was about to click the thing but no, this guy went and gone to it. Tried to send him a message by cloaking and deactivating it as well, but he won't budge. So yeah, have the Infiltrator defend your ass against the big bad Brute.
Splendid.
Ever since then, I went back to the Silversun Strip and tuned into all the NPCs and their jibber jabber. Like, that Infiltrator and the Vorcha were helping and I was dumb to not listen first.
....
Are you technologically capable enough of training your coffeemaker to use a rifle and self replicate trillions of itself? Precisely. The geth rebellion simply proves that we are the most advanced species of this cycle.
....It's objectively the strongest. The quarians have 875 maximum war assets in ME3, 780 of which come from the Fleet. Predictably, the next closest are our creations the geth at 815 total and 455 fleet maximums, respectively. No one else's even gets close. I thought you humans had already discovered mathematics?
....
Wait what? The quarians created the geth as simple hive minded slaves fit for industrial duty and other labor intensive work. But they screwed up and didn't realize the geth were becoming self aware and more intelligent than intended. Rather than defuse the situation and work out a mutually beneficial plan of action, they instead opted for a preemptive strike due to fear of the geth surpassing their masters.
Needless to say they got their ass kicked even though the geth were only just becoming self aware and didn't have any experience/pre-programming in such a large scale military excersise. They were also saved from complete annihilation only because the geth didn't believe the fleeing quarians to be a threat anymore. So the only reason the quarians are alive to engage with the geth during the reaper war is due to the "mercy" of the geth!
It's also wrong to assume the geth went for the reaper upgrade because they were scared of the quarians which is pretty shallow reasoning Imo because the geth have already defeated the quarians once before and its not too farfetched to say that they could do it again. Also during priortiy Rannoch, unless shepard intervenes the geth fleet easily destroys the quarian fleet.
Also there's the whole situation where both Shepard and the geth insists that they do not want to fight the quarians and yet the quarians go to war with the geth at the worst possible moment ever. Gee, that was smart! I also have to quote this post by someone else here about the whole geth/ quarian conflict;
Another Shepfiltrator build is to have Flare as a bonus power, then hit a target with Liara's 4b 5b 6a warp, followed by cloak-flare to trigger the enhanced BE plus the cloaked flare damage boost. Everything but the top bosses dies in an 8 meter area
And oh yeah, you can execute this combo every 3 seconds
Holy crap, I remember that! Insanity mode was easy enough after playing multiplayer for a while but that just made it ridiculous. That biotic BA-BOOM was loads of fun.
Ever since then, I went back to the Silversun Strip and tuned into all the NPCs and their jibber jabber. Like, that Infiltrator and the Vorcha were helping and I was dumb to not listen first.
There's also a TSent there who likes to Tech Armor all the things. I've never used TA offensively in MP. I might have to try that.
This isn't going to end well.
"In combat, geth units show little sense of self-preservation....."
I really wonder where could they learn that strategy (looks at Han'Gerrel).
I have looked up this so-called mathematics and went back to check my war assets. The greatest number belongs to the Alliance - N7 Special Ops. I'm looking up the Quarians... where are they hmm... oh wait, nevermind, they showed little sense of self-preservation, they placed little value on their forces and expended thousands of units to take
their homeworldan enemy planet.
You mean that guy who is specifically described both in War Asset and other descriptions, as well as by Shepard in an interview to Jessica Chobot to be an excellent tactictian noted for enabling the quarians to take "very few casualties" (Shep's words)? That man was chomping cigars and arm wrestling batarians and krogan to the ground while you were still having Reaper tech jammed into your skull on an operating table, little Cerbie. Don't attempt to tarnish his good name because you are too ascared of dying for his glorious Dreadnought destroying methods.
The numbers I used are directly pulled from the game.
http://masseffect.wi..._Assets/Quarian
Add all the non mutually exclusive numbers together, combine them with the AI Relay's asset from Admiral Xen that gets put under Crucible, and you get 875. Next closest is the Krogan at 855, then the Geth at 815. I've done the maths before because internet arguments about quarians are super serious business. If you couldn't reach that number it's because you were incompetent at acquiring assets and made dumb choices.
"N7 Special Ops" is the number for your MP chararacter promotions, increasing by 75 every time you promote a class. It's multispecies, so can't really be used as a standard of comparison in glorious race wars except to say that the Multiplayer Master Race are definitely, objectively superior to SP peasants.
You wanted to say, Claymoar vas Tali'Zorah? There is an old saying: "It is not the Quarian who carries the Claymore, it is the Claymore who carries the Quarian." Also, that you mentioned rare things, I like collecting old and rare things. You might say... I am an antiquarian.
Them there's fightin words Derperus. Perhaps you'd like to back up your scandalous words against a quarian with a claymoar, so we can see who is truly carrying who?
I'll be on my PS3 today. Come git sum babby.
Wait WTF is this? More toaster hugging garbage?
Wait what? The quarians created the geth as simple hive minded slaves fit for industrial duty and other labor intensive work. But they screwed up and didn't realize the geth were becoming self aware and more intelligent than intended. Rather than defuse the situation and work out a mutually beneficial plan of action, they instead opted for a preemptive strike due to fear of the geth surpassing their masters.
We also made them as expendable military hardware. They aren't a bunch of benign farm equipment. Codex:
"The geth are a humanoid race of networked A.I.s. They were created by the quarians 300 years ago as tools of labor and war."
They are simple hive minded machine servants (not slaves, that implies that they actually deserve to be called a people or something), so congratulations on calling it like it is there.
That we underestimated our own creations initially just means that not even we truly know how brilliant we are and what wonders of technology we are capable of.
Needless to say they got their ass kicked even though the geth were only just becoming self aware and didn't have any experience/pre-programming in such a large scale military excersise. They were also saved from complete annihilation only because the geth didn't believe the fleeing quarians to be a threat anymore. So the only reason the quarians are alive to engage with the geth during the reaper war is due to the "mercy" of the geth
As noted before, taking a billion casualties to Pyrrically defeat a numerically, vastly smaller force isn't really an asskicking. That's why in the movie 300 we root for the Spartans instead of the Persians even though the latter eventually "wins" solely by virtue of having 10x as many guys and getting most of them killed. So the geth can build a lot of platforms? Such skill. Very amaze. USSR "won" the Winter War too, but everyone agrees that losing half a million guys and gals against a couple thousand Finns means that you are the one who got rekt.
So the geth are also mentally incompetent weaklings too afraid to finish a foe when they gain the advantage? Why would I want help from something like that? Anyway, their mistake. We'll be back for our planet toasters.
It's also wrong to assume the geth went for the reaper upgrade because they were scared of the quarians which is pretty shallow reasoning Imo because the geth have already defeated the quarians once before and its not too farfetched to say that they could do it again. Also during priortiy Rannoch, unless shepard intervenes the geth fleet easily destroys the quarian fleet.
It's in no way an assumption. The geth admit this themselves. Direct quotes
Shepard: "Why did the geth choose to join the Reapers?"
Legion/VI: "The creators attacked, the geth wished to live. The old machines extended an offer"
That "offer" being to become the Reapers slaves in return for the Reapers stopping the beatdown the quarians were inflicting upon the pathetic toasters (seriously, you've got billions of platforms and 17 million space gypsies are kicking your ass?). Legion pretty much admits the decision was made out of fear if Shep asks. Admiral Xen developed a superweapon that makes the geth utterly powerless, and the quarians erase so many of them from existence that the geth's networked intellgence is reduced. They're quite literally beaten stupid.
What happened 300 years in the past is irrelevant, the quarians are superior by the time of ME3. Britain invaded the US and beat them so silly they burned down the White House 200 years ago. They probably could have had the Colonies sipping tea and eating crumpets yet again had they decided they wanted to. I doubt it would go that way today.
Also there's the whole situation where both Shepard and the geth insists that they do not want to fight the quarians and yet the quarians go to war with
If the toasters don't wanna fight, maybe they should GTFO and stop squatting on our planet? That's like Hitler invading and occupying Russia then crying about it when they come back and kick his аss.
Shepard doesn't "insist" that at all unless s/he's a giant wussbag and therefore picks that flower power anti-war hippie trash. Mine told the quarians to go get their planet back from those evil toasters that stole it from them so they would have a planet to help me against the Reapers with. The best part is the quarians are boss and don't listen to Pussygon Shep's whining regardless, but they do listen to Renegade Shep. We don't respect cowards and weaklings who hug toasters and cry about everything.
I also have to quote this post by someone else here about the whole geth/ quarian conflict;
That "someone else" is clearly a toaster hugging wuss who fell for the geth sob story. The actual narrative has the quarians kicking the geth all over the Perseus Veil until their Reaper buddies show up to save them, where the quarians have to play it more hit and run for a bit because Reapers. Hackett then orders Shep to go get help from the quarians for the Reaper War ("we need a fleet, and the quarians have the biggest one out there"). The quarians don't ask for your help at all at any point, it's all voluntary because you want their help.
Also finally the quarians don't exactly have the objectively strongest fleet. Besides the fact that the quarian fleet was easily pulverized by geth opposition on rannoch, numerically the Systems Alliance has the stronger fleet if you include the Crucible which is after all a largely Alliance initiative. Even if you dont include the Crucible, which is silly, the Alliance fleet has around 760 war assets( assuming you sacrificed the council and lets face it, they were a bunch of douchebags) and also the alliance fleet is mostly military grade rather than the rag tag recycled fleet of the quarians. And lets face it, the quarians themselves agree that they aren't exactly space war material and are unsuited for fights of attrition so they Alliance fleet has a significant advantage there. Here, I'll link the war assets page as well: http://forum.bioware...get-them/page-1
Yes they do. Add the maximum numbers for the 3 seperate quarian fleets from the post I direct to Derperus above. Heavy Fleet has 280 and the other two 250 each, so you you get 780 maximum. It isn't "easily pulverized" by the geth. It can only lose if you betray the quarians by not telling them about the geth getting Reaper tech again (which is a stupid decision to allow), after they've destroyed the Reaper and already broken cover to attack. In this case the codex describes afterword that the geth "win" because the Reaper upgrade makes them "smart" enough to go after the civilian ships instead of An-heroing themselves against the military ones (babykilling cowards the lot of them, too afraid to go up against us in a straight fight). If you don't get on board with the Reaper upgrade, the quarians blast the toasters virtual аssses into actual dust because we're naturally superior and don't need Reaper garbage to beat some stupid robots.
Which spineless coward in our ranks admitted to something like that and needs to be charged with treason? Raan just states that the turian forces are stronger than the Heavy Fleet alone (which is true) but that's only 1/3 of our ships or so.
Anyway, I've reached my quarian shitpost quota for the month. We're best. Deal with it plebs. If you want proof you can always 1v1 me.
That we underestimated our own creations initially just means that not even we truly know how brilliant we are and what wonders of technology we are capable of.
For some reason I feel this:
is appropriate at this point in this conversation.
For some reason I feel this:
is appropriate at this point in this conversation.
No, I have been personally insulted by spineless bosh'tets, and I demand blood/scrap metal. Come out and fite me you robosexual cowards! Or are you too busy "playing" with your toasters?
^^^^^^^^^^ is hilarious QMR.... I got your back in this quarrel ...... cerberus is only good for one thing...getting their melons popped.
No, I have been personally insulted by spinless bosh'tets, and I demand blood/scrap metal. Come out and fite me you robosexual cowards! Or are you too busy "playing" with your toasters?
looks like the cerberus dude, is TAKING CASUALITIES!!!!
This isn't going to end well.
I've just been reading the thread in reverse. Dude, you've no idea how hard I laughed when I read this. 
Obligatory link.....
I'm totally trying this in my next fat Tsent game.
...maybe on Silver first though 
Valkyrie does tech armor detonation build better imo, lots of fun on gold
Edit - valkyrie, not valkurie
Ok I'm enjoying this rather well. Firstly I love shooting toasters as much as anyone else, if not more. But come on, you gotta admit them suit rats ain't got much on the geth much less all the other council races. Let's look at it in general shall we. The quarians are generally considered to be the tramps of the ME universe, not having a home of their own, widely seen as thieves and scavengers and generally looked down on by the rest of the galaxy. They are also not even a part of the council races. They also didn't have the balls to recolonize another planet against the wishes of the council. Instead they pussied out and recalled the initial colonists they sent to the planet and were confined to their ships for 300 or so years. Another i factor is their ****** poor immunity, hell they can even "Let's Bang Ok" without first taking a heavy dose of antibiotics and possibly soup! Lets not forget they have to carry their wates in their suits and if thats not a shitty state of affairs, I dunno what is!
They are simple hive minded machine servants (not slaves, that implies that they actually deserve to be called a people or something), so congratulations on calling it like it is there.
That we underestimated our own creations initially just means that not even we truly know how brilliant we are and what wonders of technology we are capable of.
No just no...That's not brilliance, that's just sad! In your own words you people got your collective asses kicked by these simple minded toasters despite having the surprise factor and readiness advantage over them. That's just military incompetence! Also while the geth may have been used for small scale military applications, they were always under the guidance of their quarian masters and had never fough an actual war of such scale by themselves. That too without preparation. If the quarians were any good they'd have blitzkrieged through the geth when they were in their self discovery process but nope they botched it on a planetary level.
As noted before, taking a billion casualties to Pyrrically defeat a numerically, vastly smaller force isn't really an asskicking. That's why in the movie 300 we root for the Spartans instead of the Persians even though the latter eventually "wins" solely by virtue of having 10x as many guys and getting most of them killed. So the geth can build a lot of platforms? Such skill. Very amaze. USSR "won" the Winter War too, but everyone agrees that losing half a million guys and gals against a couple thousand Finns means that you are the one who got rekt.
According to the wiki, they quarians took casualties numbering in the billions as well, lost their homeworld and had to scram with whatever scrap they could get their hands on. Due you expect the geth to not follow the approach they took just because it is less "muh honoroabu". Please this is war we're talking about, it was a perfectly viable strategy for the geth since they are essentially a software hive collective and could afford to do it.
The way you're presenting it, the geth apparently had great difficulty in defeating the quarians when in reality, the quarians had difficulty in just staying alive and not getting wiped out much less winning the war! Besides I think the geth more than easily made up for their losses after the battle whereas the quarians were still affected by it 300 years after the war!
Also you can't really compare "300" or something like the winter war or tas another example the US Iraqi invasion because these are conventional military conflicts where as the geth are simply different in their strategy. It doesn't matter to the geth because that is the very goal the geth are aiming for which is victory irrespective of numbers since to them platforms are expendable due to large scale availability. This is different to conventional war since there I assume they are aiming for a victory with the least amount of casualties possible since soldiers are not an expendible commodity.
Also we are rooting for the 300 spartans because Zach Snyder took the side of the spartans and portrayed them in that light. Your sympathies would have been different had he focused on the persians which is evident in the sequel where I'm sure quite a lot of the viewers changed sides because of Eva Green alone! The movie could have quite as easily been about the noble persians being impeded by the barbaric spartans who show no honor by killing their messengers and are a cowardly bunch of primitives in leather underwear who fight huddled along the base of a narrow valley rather that facing the persian army on plane ground. It's just a matter of perspective m9.
So the geth are also mentally incompetent weaklings too afraid to finish a foe when they gain the advantage? Why would I want help from something like that? Anyway, their mistake. We'll be back for our planet toasters.
It's in no way an assumption. The geth admit this themselves. Direct quotes
Shepard: "Why did the geth choose to join the Reapers?"
Legion/VI: "The creators attacked, the geth wished to live. The old machines extended an offer"
That "offer" being to become the Reapers slaves in return for the Reapers stopping the beatdown the quarians were inflicting upon the pathetic toasters (seriously, you've got billions of platforms and 17 million space gypsies are kicking your ass?). Legion pretty much admits the decision was made out of fear if Shep asks. Admiral Xen developed a superweapon that makes the geth utterly powerless, and the quarians erase so many of them from existence that the geth's networked intellgence is reduced. They're quite literally beaten stupid.
What happened 300 years in the past is irrelevant, the quarians are superior by the time of ME3. Britain invaded the US and beat them so silly they burned down the White House 200 years ago. They probably could have had the Colonies sipping tea and eating crumpets yet again had they decided they wanted to. I doubt it would go that way today.
If the toasters don't wanna fight, maybe they should GTFO and stop squatting on our planet? That's like Hitler invading and occupying Russia then crying about it when they come back and kick his аss.
No mate, the geth didn't finish off the quarians because they felt sympathy for them and were too soft to wipe them out. Rather its because they considered them to be harmless incompetent boshtets who couldn't even realize their own mistakes. You can imagine how pathetic the quarian situation was for the geth to consider them nonthreatening. It's like punching a boxer once he's down, there's no need to do it, they're already beat!
Also during the time of the reaper invasion, the geth were not just fighting the quarians but almost all the other organic races largely due to being sided by the reapers. And what's wrong with accepting the reaper code if it makes them stronger? Shepard himself does something similar to this at the end of the game in one path. I'm quite sure the quarians would've done the same were they in the same situation. Legion admits to fear of the geth wiping out but that's just the non heretic geth who are targeted same as the heretics. Legion aconsiders the heretics to be separate from the true geth who are a minority and so that is why he fears for their existance.
Also after the destruction of the reaper on rannoch and once the geth have control over themselves, allowing the quarians are only able to destroy the geth after space jesus disrupting the reaper code activation and so exponentially weakening the geth.
Also the hitler referance made me laugh! The difference here is that the geth were made by the quarians on Rannoch. They were not an alien invasion but a construct of the quarians themselves. In fact the quarians are more similar to hitler for the fact that they're the ones doing all the attacking and are prosecuting the geth merely because they exist. But unfortuantely or otherwise they don't have the bark behind their bite to actually wipe out the geth. Besides I think the quarians were mostly busy getting their ass kicked instead of doing much of the kicking!
Yes they do. Add the maximum numbers for the 3 seperate quarian fleets from the post I direct to Derperus above. Heavy Fleet has 280 and the other two 250 each, so you you get 780 maximum. It isn't "easily pulverized" by the geth. It can only lose if you betray the quarians by not telling them about the geth getting Reaper tech again (which is a stupid decision to allow), after they've destroyed the Reaper and already broken cover to attack. In this case the codex describes afterword that the geth "win" because the Reaper upgrade makes them "smart" enough to go after the civilian ships instead of An-heroing themselves against the military ones (babykilling cowards the lot of them, too afraid to go up against us in a straight fight). If you don't get on board with the Reaper upgrade, the quarians blast the toasters virtual аssses into actual dust because we're naturally superior and don't need Reaper garbage to beat some stupid robots.
I never denied that the quarian fleet had less than 780 war assets. If you read my earlier post, you can see that I'm saying that the Alliance fleet is better than the scrap museum of a fleet the quarians have. From the link the Systems Aliiance has a fleet strength of 758 not including the crucible. If you include the crucible which is a vital part of the Alliance arsenal against the reapers, its not even close. Also as I'd already mentioned the Alliance is more military grade and of higher grade than the recycled armada of the geth. As to quarian efficiency, remember Tali's mission in ME2 where a bunch of recycled geth take over the Alerai, which is one of their bigger and more important ships? And space jesus had to appear to save the quarians from that screw up. That's not saying much for the efficiency of the fleet either!
Also in your own words you could only compete against the geth, paltry as it was, because they were much simpler without the reaper code. Once the geth had the reaper code and attained a basic level of sentient intelligence akin to normal organics, you lost. Oh that's right, they targeted you civilian ships! Well too bad, and here you were complaining about the geth not having the balls to finish you off earlier. Well that's exactly what they did, no point calling them cowards when its your fault for not covering your asses and protecting your civvies instead of leaving them open like you did! Also needing antibiotics just coz you got a papercut is hardly a definition for natural superiority!
Look QMR, you're a great player but this is just where you and I disagree. I'm awaiting you fiery response. Come get some. 
I can't say I have the attention span length to read all these long posts
Actions speak louder than words.
GI vs QME in the heavyweight showdown. Depending on the set up the QME will be between a slight favorite to a huge underdog.
Multiplayer is better by far imo, although, I would have loved the Armax Arena levels in multiplayer.
I can't say I have the attention span length to read all these posts
Actions speak louder than words.
GI vs QME in the heavyweight showdown. Depending on the set up the QME will be between a slight favorite to a huge underdog.
That's okay, I had to stop halfway through and ponder the meaning of life as well but I managed it.
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