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[SNascimento]

I was replaying Mass Effect today and was just made Spectre. Nothing new here, I done this any number of times. But everytime I'm "discovering" the citadel I find it funny to realize again the primary role of the Asari: to be a fanservice race. A race that can play the role of human women almost to the letter while still being an alien. A race that anyone can romance. 

The Art of the Mass Effect universe pretty much says this:

To add a familar element of science-fiction fantasy, we decided one of the main species in Mass Effect would be a race of beautiful, blue alien girls. An extensive exploration of the idfea led to the asari appearing exotic and alien while still having some human qualities, which allowed them to be desirible as potential love interests.

As it says, Mass Effect is not the only science fiction work to do this. But can't this change in Andromeda? Can't Mass Effect follow a different path?

A lot of people complain about a human centric story, but the Asari make for a human centric universe. Why there are only human and Asari working as strippers? Becase that is what a human would like to see, that's why. A Turian or a Salarian are not attractive as an Asari is, but from a in-universe perpective, it makes as much sense having them taking their clothes off as it makes a human or an Asari. 

Bioware tried to explain this a bit with in-univese lore, like different spcies arguing the Asari looked attractive to all of them and in ME3 dropping some info that could lead to the not far fetched conclusion that the Protheans modified the Asari to be their sex slaves. But I'd argue that when a race is introduced in a sci-fi work with such a shallow function, every attempt to develop then further will have a reduced success.

Of course, that's how I see it. And for that reason I wouldn't mind at all if Bioware tried something more... modern in Andromeda. What you guys think?

[Vilio1]

I would indeed mind if they don't return because they are one of the most iconic, interesting and fleshed out races in the setting. Luckily there is almost NO chance of this happening.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yes, I would mind. I would mind if any of the species of Mass Effect got left behind.

[SnakeCode]

Oh god another "Asari are too pretty, they're just fanservice for straight males. We should remove them" thread.

[SerriceIceDandy]

All valid points, but I've grown quite fond of them as a species, and yes I would miss them if they were removed. I do think, however there's more room for development on the Asari sociologically, as well as focusing on their psychology as well. 

 

They've had a little fleshing out, but I'd like to see more. For example, I think it'd be really interesting to expand on the Asari's view of sex (anatomically-speaking, not bumping uglies - we know their opinion on that) and gender in comparison to the bi-gendered races. What about their arrogance of thinking they're the most advanced species out of the Citadel species; maybe have a few more throw some asinine comments about the other races. Their perspective regarding their lifespan has been touched on, I think there could more to it.

 

Psychologically we know Asari personalities aren't necessarily feminine (Matriarch Atheyta), so how about having a 'Brosari' character introduced. 

 

Lets explore Asari culture a bit more, too! Lets hear more about their traditions, so on so forth.

To be honest, the same could be said about any of the species in Mass Effect.

[Bowlcuts]

A Mass Effect game NOT having the Asari? That's like, Middle-earth with no elves, man.

[Gothfather]

What's done is done.

 

The asari are what they are. It really doesn't makes sense that the only citadel space race that doesn't make it to Andromeda is the Asari they are too integral to the economic and political infrastructure of citadel space for it to make sense that they would be left out of the colonists going to Andromeda.

 

I always thought that it would have been better if Asari mammary glans behaved like every other mammal's mammary glans behave on earth. They are undeveloped until required. Humans are the only mammal on the planet that has "full" breasts even when not lactating. And given that there are no males to attract a mate having "display" (I means this in a bilogical sense like peacock feathers which is one the the theories my woman have fully formed breasts all the time vs just when lactating) breasts makes no sense.

 

But flat chested woman are not "sexy" so obviously this was never going to happen.

 

There is little point in trying to fix fan service. It is part of the franchise now so just let it be. Fixing it now is just "fan service" to fans against fan service at this point.

[NKnight7]

I can't imagine an ME game without the Asari, I know I'd miss them. I do hope a lot of the races make it to Andromeda.

[SNascimento]

Oh god another "Asari are too pretty, they're just fanservice for straight males. We should remove them" thread.

Not only straight males. The Asari can potentially be romanced by any gender with any sexual orientation. I can't talk about straight female players, but I wonder if all of them would see romacing an Asari as a gay act - Of course, we come from a patriarchal society and that's why the Asari are females and not males. If that was the case, they wouldn't work at all.

And that's my point, that's the main purpose of the Asari, being just that. And no matter how you develop the race, as Bioware did this to them as much as it did with other main races, that truth cannot be buried completely. 

I don't think that hurt Mass Effect that much, and most people probably prefer Mass Effect with them than without. But I honestly believe Mass Effect would be a better universe without a race made with this function in mind. Do you think that is not a valid position?

[ZipZap2000]

*chews a mouth full of varren meat and looks at the pyjack, pointing his finger*



The Asari are beautiful, sexy, brilliant, driven, intelligent, successful, better than you and everyone loves them. That's no excuse to be mad at them for 10 years, grow a quad princess.

[Steelcan]

I'd jump for joy if we didn't have to deal with those sloppily designed walking fanservice machines were never seen again

[Yaroub]

I was hoping that both the Krogan and Asari rot in hell. Now that the Krogans are pretty much confirmed, the Asari need to be shown the Airlock or at least have a minimal presence in Andromeda.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Of course, we come from a patriarchal society and that's why the Asari are females and not males. If that was the case, they wouldn't work at all.

Um, I'm pretty sure our understanding of biology is the case why an all male race wouldn't work. We have all female species that are capable of reproduction without males on Earth, but the reverse isn't true. 

[SnakeCode]

Drell were made as a fanservice race as well, that was explicitly stated. I wonder why we haven't seen countless threads asking to either remove them completely or radically change their design like we have with Asari?

[ZipZap2000]

Drell were made as a fanservice race as well, that was explicitly stated. I wonder why we haven't seen countless threads asking to either remove them completely or radically change their design like we have with Asari?

Because they suck and nobody is jealous of them. Or sexually frustrated by them. Inadequate pyjack beta males ruin everything.

[Livi14]

Drell were made as a fanservice race as well, that was explicitly stated. I wonder why we haven't seen countless threads asking to either remove them completely or radically change their design like we have with Asari?

Because people only hate fanservice when it isn't aimed at them.

The asari are fine as they are now; and didn't Bioware show character models for the Asari and some other races at the PAX fan panel? I have no doubt they will appear in Andromeda. At the very least I'd expect to see all of the Council races return.

[themikefest]

I don't see a problem if they don't show up in the next game

[Angry_Elcor]

Sure. I'm always open to entirely new species of alien space strippers.

[Steelcan]

Drell were made as a fanservice race as well, that was explicitly stated. I wonder why we haven't seen countless threads asking to either remove them completely or radically change their design like we have with Asari?

cause they're already barely in the game

[slimgrin]

Let's make Mass Effect more boring! 

[Andrew Lucas]

Despite them being creepy females, I would.

[SardaukarElite]

While I wouldn't mind any of the non-humans being dropped I think taking the all-female race out because fanservice kind of just ends up in removing a bunch of women because of someone's standards. I think the asari could definitely be improved though. 

[SnakeCode]

Um, I'm pretty sure our understanding of biology is the case why an all male race wouldn't work. We have all female species that are capable of reproduction without males on Earth, but the reverse isn't true. 

 

Also let's not forget pre ME3 every race not named Asari were all male species as far as the games were concerned. If anything we need more female Alien representation in Andromeda, not to kill off a whole species of them.

[Killdren88]

-Takes away something that is pleasing to the eyes of straight players and of course some female players-

"Well...its not like its a big loss. They are simply a fantasy of what males desire, and body shame real women for not looking like Asari So either they need to be removed, or more realistic changes are placed on them. They will whine now, but thank us later when they come to this conclusion themselves."

 

-Takes away perhaps..the Drell or Turians? Attractive races among some female players and some male players-

"Bioware is sexist and denying us female players and some male players our eye candy!"

 

No one sees a problem here? Can't both parties have eye candy? Or only certain parties? Or no parties perhaps?  As a Reaper, I have no need for petty eye candy to enjoy a game and story, but isn't it Hypocritical to demand one race removed or altered and yet other races remain untouched due to some personal bias or favoritism?

[Umaya]

While I wouldn't mind any of the non-humans being dropped I think taking the all-female race out because fanservice kind of just ends up in removing a bunch of women because of someone's standards. I think the asari could definitely be improved though. 

 

Asari ain't women.