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[Remix-General Aetius]

I wouldn't mind seeing Asari, as long as they're not consorts or call girls or "exotic" dancers or stalker squadmates. Give me someone like Aria or Tela Vasir or Enyala all the way!

[Quarian Master Race]

Also let's not forget pre ME3 every race not named Asari were all male species as far as the games were concerned. If anything we need more female Alien representation in Andromeda, not to kill off a whole species of them.

Why does everyone forget about us?

 

Delete every other species asari, replace with quarians. All problems solved.

[SnakeCode]

Nobody cares about the suit rats tbh

[Suketchi]

cause they're already barely in the game

 

and they sure as hell weren't pole-dancing.

 

Um, I'm pretty sure our understanding of biology is the case why an all male race wouldn't work. We have all female species that are capable of reproduction without males on Earth, but the reverse isn't true. 

 

Some would argue that the asari aren't even really female in the first place though, so that would be irrelevant.

[Undead Han]

Yes.

 

They are a major part of the game universe now, regardless of how some fans may feel about the species' concept. Assuming the Ark sets out during the Reaper War, which was heavily implied by one of the trailers, it would not make much sense from a lore perspective for the Asari to be completely uninvolved if the project is multi-species. 

 

The only alternative would be to have the Ark be entirely a human endeavor, with no Milky Way aliens at all making the journey, and all the aliens in the game being Andromeda natives. Despite the introduction of new alien species, having the humans being solely responsible for the Ark would feel a bit like Bioware's writers once again diving head first into the Humans Are Special trope. I think the series needs much less of that, not more.

[Killdren88]

 

 

Some would argue that the asari aren't even really female in the first place though, so that would be irrelevant.

They are monogendered. They use She sure, but also refer to Asari couples as father and mother when they have children. They use female titles and descriptions Maidens and Matriarchs and such. Honestly I think that is only for Player benefit to make understanding the society a bit easier.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Some would argue that the asari aren't even really female in the first place though, so that would be irrelevant.

Some would argue the Earth is flat. Doesn't mean they aren't wrong. Asari have one biological sex, and that is female. 

[Quarian Master Race]

Nobody cares about the suit rats tbh

Nobody cares about you. Even Meryl dumped you for a cell door guard. Your only friend is some weeaboo

[Undead Han]

The codex entry for the Asari outright states they're female. That really should be the end of discussion.

 

Even if that codex entry didn't exist however, the prefix mono means one or single. For example somone who is monogamous, only has one sexual partner. A monorail is a train that runs on a single track instead of two. A monocle is a type of corrective lens for a single eye. Ect., Ect. 

 

Monogendered then, would mean a species with a single gender. It would not mean 'no gender,' as some fans and at least one former Bioware employee have mistakenly assumed. 

[Fetunche]

I don't care if they are in the game or not I just don't want an Asari squad mate or romance for a change.

[Ascari]

You mean a Mass Effect game without this?

 

[SnakeCode]

Nobody cares about you. Even Meryl dumped you for a cell door guard. Your only friend is some weeaboo

 

 

I hate weeaboos

[rocklikeafool]

I was replaying Mass Effect today and was just made Spectre. Nothing new here, I done this any number of times. But everytime I'm "discovering" the citadel I find it funny to realize again the primary role of the Asari: to be a fanservice race. A race that can play the role of human women almost to the letter while still being an alien. A race that anyone can romance. 

[HuldraDancer]

I think it would be a little jarring to have a whole race suddenly gone (unless they were going a route of this was just a migration that humans made maybe but that seems unlikely with the krogan squadmate). I wouldn't mind not having one for a squadmate though, but I'm bias in being rather 'meh' on them by now.

[slimgrin]

I think it would be a little jarring to have a whole race suddenly gone (unless they were going a route of this was just a migration that humans made maybe but that seems unlikely with the krogan squadmate). I wouldn't mind not having one for a squadmate though, but I'm bias in being rather 'meh' on them by now.

 

Then don't choose one for a squad mate. No reason to omit them from the possibility of being on your team. 

[themikefest]

Assuming the Ark sets out during the Reaper War, which was heavily implied by one of the trailers,

Was it? Looking at Earth while the ship left, the planet was in good condition without seeing any fires like is seen in ME3

[themikefest]

I don't care if they are in the game or not I just don't want an Asari squad mate or romance for a change.

That would be fine.

 

I mentioned in another thread that an asari can be the ships janitor. As the main character walks around, someone over the intercom says "cleanup needed on deck 3", an asari comes out of her closet running with her mop and bucket

[Undead Han]

Was it? Looking at Earth while the ship left, the planet was in good condition without seeing any fires like is seen in ME3

 

I assume it is connected to the Reaper War because Shepard gives the motivational speech send off in the trailer. 

[HuldraDancer]

Then don't choose one for a squad mate. No reason to omit them from the possibility of being on your team. 

 

I never said that they shouldn't be allowed to be squadmates just that I wouldn't mind if they weren't.

 

 

Oh actually putting one instead of a squadmate in an important NPC role of the ship would be kind of interesting. I don't recall having one in a role like that before.

[ModernAcademic]

Would you mind the Asari not being in Andromeda?

 

 

I would mind any alien race that had previously appeared in the franchise being in Andromeda. In fact, I dread if we happen to see them again because they happened to be "recycled".

 

I want new races, better than the old ones. Races that challenge our paradigm of life as we understand it. I'm tired of stereotypes such as muscular, stupid, brutal, bestial-looking warmongers. Or thin, tall and nervous-looking geniuses. Or even a race of sexy females that have "finally done away with their males", wears collant as if it were a perfectly normal attire and serve no other purpose than being eye candy for male players while pretending to be a homage to women's power and to feminism in general.

 

The races of ME are an obvious rendition of old human stereotypes rather than a clever demonstration of the rich diversity of life. They should be inventive so as to invite us to explore our galaxy and discover how life can develop in many different ways. A stymulus for the player to imagine a new and improved theory on life and the universe. A good scifi game does that.

 

Instead, the races don't introduce any new concepts, nor do they challenge old ones. It's just a moronic repetition of two dimensional personality types with zero room to extrapolate anything new about the alien races we meet. Have we ever been involved in the Quarians' problems with health and immune system? Has it been discussed how we could develop technology to help them replace their suits with a more convenient outfit? Do we engage in conversation with Krogans as to how radiation could be diminished on their planet so as to heal the biosphere and make vegetable life viable again, enabling crops and animals to reappear? What about the Salarians' short life span? Haven't they studied the Krogans so as to develop a biological weapon? How come they didn't learn how to adapt the genetic traits responsible for the Krogan's longevity (they live hundreds of years) to their own DNA? Aren't they clever scientists or what? And how come Shepard can't even discuss that with them? With the lead scientist of the biological weapon project? In their secret Krogan research base?

 

No, the games are just arrive on new area, shoot enemies, hear a lot of pseudo-scientific babble from your squadmates that has actually zero relevance to the plot and get your reward. Wow. Great job at doing a scifi game, there.

 

Honestly, it's insulting to the intelligence of fans of the scifi genre.

 

BW, give us something revolutionary in Andromeda, something that challenges our preconceived notions of life in other star systems, not another rendition of the same stereotyped aliens, for f***'s sake. Or just keep the ME franchise as a "sorta futuristic"-loking FPS and do us a favor: do remove the franchise from the scifi genre. Thank you.

[SNascimento]

I assume it is connected to the Reaper War because Shepard gives the motivational speech send off in the trailer. 

I wouldn't take anything about the N7 day trailer literally. Apart from the ark, that is. I would be very surprised if they designed that ship just to serve as an analogy about going grom the Milk Way to Andromeda. 

But the Shepard speech is probably not even in the game, it's was probably just a meta thing. Shepard didn't know about the ark after all, and the Commander didn't even mentioned the Reapers. 

[Draining Dragon]

Not a bit. In fact, I never want to see the goddamn space elves ever again.

[Suketchi]

Some would argue the Earth is flat. Doesn't mean they aren't wrong. Asari have one biological sex, and that is female. 

 

...there's a difference between arguing about something that has been proven in the physical world, and arguing about something that has never been proven or universally accepted in an imaginary world. 

 

They are monogendered. They use She sure, but also refer to Asari couples as father and mother when they have children. They use female titles and descriptions Maidens and Matriarchs and such. Honestly I think that is only for Player benefit to make understanding the society a bit easier.

 

Exactly. 

 

The codex entry for the Asari outright states they're female. That really should be the end of discussion.

 

Even if that codex entry didn't exist however, the prefix mono means one or single. For example somone who is monogamous, only has one sexual partner. A monorail is a train that runs on a single track instead of two. A monocle is a type of corrective lens for a single eye. Ect., Ect. 

 

Monogendered then, would mean a species with a single gender. It would not mean 'no gender,' as some fans and at least one former Bioware employee have mistakenly assumed. 

 

...codex entries can be contradictory to lore: the codex entry for the Blue Suns states that it was founded by a Batarian, when in actuality Zaeed and Vido started the mercenary company. If you think about it, the codex entries in Mass Effect are nothing more than an Alliance database, which means it's subject to error due to cultural differences, misinformation, etc..Which means it's possible that 'All-female' could be a reference to their physical appearance, not their actual gender.

 

Liara herself says that "male and female have no real meaning for us" and that she is "not precisely a woman." There's a difference between no gender and an undefined gender.

[Steelcan]

Asari are not agendered, they are monogendered, every single asari is biologically female by our standards

[Undead Han]

Even if Andromeda left the Milky Way aliens behind, the new crop of aliens would also likely be humanoid. That is just one of those things where game design considerations probably trump ideas that might come out of the writer's room. You need to have most, if not all, of the alien squadmates use the same animations as the human characters.