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[Gothfather]

The Asari have the most political and economic influence in Citadel space. You actually see human Asari sexual relationships in game. Humans are going to predisposed towards a race that they are sexual attracted to and can share some of our most important cultural bonding rituals like sharing food. You may think sharing food isn't important but talk to any anthropologist about just how important food sharing is to friendship and they can write books on the subject.

 

 

Hands down the Asari have the most ties to humanity. They also have examples of the most important of human ties so the Garrus and friends can't even compete.

[justafan]

Probably Asari due to their shtick as the diplomats of the galaxy.  Given their apparent philosophy of make love, not war, large economy, and humanoid features, I don't think humans mind the closeness.  Also, it was the Asari who led the push to end the First Contact War before it began in earnest (though probably mostly from the unfounded fear that the humans were more powerful than they really were).

 

Not to say that the Asari reciprocate the feeling.  They have their head-tentacles in the business of every species, and humans are just another piece to be played.

 

Humans and the Turians probably have the most in common in terms of goals and philosophy, but the deaths of the first contact war are still in recent memory, so it's teeth clenched teamwork at the moment, as time slowly heals the old wounds.

[EpicNewb]

Asari love is superficial.  They're diplomats that get along with near everybody.

[EpicNewb]

The Asari have the most political and economic influence in Citadel space. You actually see human Asari sexual relationships in game. Humans are going to predisposed towards a race that they are sexual attracted to and can share some of our most important cultural bonding rituals like sharing food. You may think sharing food isn't important but talk to any anthropologist about just how important food sharing is to friendship and they can write books on the subject.

 

 

Hands down the Asari have the most ties to humanity. They also have examples of the most important of human ties so the Garrus and friends can't even compete.

That's akin to saying a girl is automatically close to you just because she's a bang and can be passed around among your friends

 

When sh1t hit the fan at the start of ME3 those Asari were the most reluctant council race to assist Earth.  Take into consideration that their hands weren't full with the Reapers yet

 

Garrus homebois pretty much welcomed us with open arms the moment we land on Palavan.

 

Even the seemingly selfish Salarians were more cooperative during our visit.

 

The HNIC Asari we met on Thessia was reluctant to help us and iirc even gave gave us an attitude, "I'm not going to do something for a random human." 

[Han Shot First]

Probably the Asari & Salarians

 

Humanity fought a border war against the Turians in recent history, that elements of both sides are still bitter about. We're told the Council stepped in to negotiate a cease fire and admit the Systems Alliance as a Council member, but they're probably referring to the Asari and Salarian Councilors. I can't imagine the Turian Councilor at the time was in favor, considering his government was eagerly gearing up to to drop the hammer on humanity.

[Halfdan The Menace]

You forget the Batarians who hates Humans with a passion. Don't know what their real problem is after centuries of being part with the Citadel folks, but when after we were introduced into the galactic community, they declare a war against Humans and the species who backed us and isolate themselves from the rest of the galaxy.

It seem to me that the Batarians probably related to Humans even more so than any other races we are familiar with.

[Revan Reborn]

Husks, clearly. They are the next step in human evolution:

[Dubozz]

Starchildren.

[Sifr]

You forget the Batarians who hates Humans with a passion. Don't know what their real problem is after centuries of being part with the Citadel folks, but when after we were introduced into the galactic community, they declare a war against Humans and the species who backed us and isolate themselves from the rest of the galaxy.

It seem to me that the Batarians probably related to Humans even more so than any other races we are familiar with.

 

The reason the Batarians have such enmity towards Humanity is because until we showed up, the Batarians were the Cartman-esque bully in the playground who isn't so much of a threat as a nuisance, going around occasionally stealing lunch money and pushing people off the swings (or enslaving them), which everyone tolerates because they want to play nice and because it's too much hassle to deal with them.

 

When Humanity showed up, began colonising planets and space that the Batarians claimed (because it was in their field of vision) and made it clear that any of their colonies were attacked by slavers, they'd give the Batarians a double pair of black eyes, the Batarians had a bit of a tantrum. They ran to the Council and gave them an ultimatum that if they didn't back them over humanity, they'd leave Council space entirely... failing to recognise that of course the Council would choose humanity, since they were playing relatively nice with everyone and actually followed the rules.

 

Husks, clearly. They are the next step in human evolution:

 

"Why, oh why did I choose the Synthesis ending..."

[MichaelN7]

On a galactic scale, I'd say Asari.

 

Aside from the obvious difference in skin tones and their "crests", Asari are physically/anatomically identical to humans (number of digits, face-shapes, overall body shape)

 

My reasoning comes from Javik.  If you bring him on Priority:Thessia, when you first enter the Temple of Athame he comments on the relics stored there.

Fitting, since he was more or less THERE when that history happened.

He says that the Protheans saw "potential" in the Asari, which is why they were given the gift of biotics among other things.

 

For centuries, the Asari had a whole treasure trove of Prothean tech right in their backyard to study and learn from.

Who else had such "easy" access to such information?

Humanity.

 

Granted, it's located on Mars, but considering interstellar distances, it may as well be the corner market that's two minutes away on foot.

Perhaps it was tucked away on the next planet over because they saw our ancestors and realized that giving a species that weaponizes fire and rocks the means to harness dark energy would not be the wisest decision at the time, so they put it out of reach until we're civilized enough to handle it.

 

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Another thing to consider is skin tone itself.

Asari skin tones are generally blue.

Human skin tones are generally orange.

On a color wheel blue and orange are complimentary (opposite each other).

 

Take a look at the species' temperaments:

 

Asari (from an outside perspective) appear to take forever and a day to get things done.  They plan decades in advance and often the people who see it take shape don't see the results because by the time it happens they've passed away.

Why get a small benefit now when in just 30 short years we'll obtain 20x the benefit?

Sure, they may be a threat now, but we'll let them simmer down for a decade or two.

 

Humans don't like to wait.  We want it NOW and we're not going to wait!

We're not going to sit around waiting for procedure when we can just go and DO IT ourselves!

If you don't like it, tough, because we're not putting up with your crap.

Don't try to stop us, or we'll beat you up.

And don't push our friends around either, or we'll kick you into next week!

 

You see the difference?

The overall temperament of the two species couldn't be more opposite each other.

So to tie it all together, it could be that the Protheans wanted to "cover their bases" with the widest range of potential they could find, everything from the slow and deliberate Asari to the unstoppable, immovable Humans.

[Sifr]

You raise some excellent points MichaelN7, but what makes this somewhat more amusing is that you can substitute the Batarians for Humanity in a lot of those places and it'd be not that different, since both are aggressive expansionists and don't like to be told they can't do something.

 

Actually comparing the Batarians and the Protheans makes for an nice comparison as well, in that they share the same amount of eyes, similar skin tones and have the same ethos of subjugating those they conquer.

 

It could be why the Batarians are the only other race confirmed to have been left a Prothean cache in their system as well, being seen as the race most like the Protheans in terms of personality. It was just unfortunate for them that their cache was damaged over the course of the Cycle, so they ended up falling behind the other races technologically.

[MichaelN7]

You raise some excellent points MichaelN7, but what makes this somewhat more amusing is that you can substitute the Batarians for Humanity in a lot of those places and it'd be not that different, since both are aggressive expansionists and don't like to be told they can't do something.

 

Actually comparing the Batarians and the Protheans makes for an nice comparison as well, in that they share the same amount of eyes, similar skin tones and have the same ethos of subjugating those they conquer.

 

It could be why the Batarians are the only other race confirmed to have been left a Prothean cache in their system as well, being seen as the race most like the Protheans in terms of personality. It was just unfortunate for them that their cache was damaged over the course of the Cycle, so they ended up falling behind the other races technologically.

Yeah, you're right.

I kinda grasped at straws answering the question, I had the thought and I ran with it, but yeah, the Batarians and Humans are more alike than either would care to admit.

 

The only big difference is that Humans see the value of diplomacy, even if it leaves a bad taste in their mouth.

Batarians (or at least their governing body) didn't, and we all know how that helped them against the Reapers.

[EpicNewb]

Batarians have similarities for sure.

 

THey don't have our backs at all though.

 

I hope there's some carry through of our decisions from the trilogy.  Humans and Krogan being BFF ftw

[Gothfather]

That's akin to saying a girl is automatically close to you just because she's a bang and can be passed around among your friends

 

When sh1t hit the fan at the start of ME3 those Asari were the most reluctant council race to assist Earth.  Take into consideration that their hands weren't full with the Reapers yet

 

Garrus homebois pretty much welcomed us with open arms the moment we land on Palavan.

 

Even the seemingly selfish Salarians were more cooperative during our visit.

 

The HNIC Asari we met on Thessia was reluctant to help us and iirc even gave gave us an attitude, "I'm not going to do something for a random human." 

 

No it is not akin to that at all.

 

Study after study shows that people we are attracted to we are more likely to believe, more likely to compromise with in a dispute. You are claim it is BS  but the studies are real. Studies also show that being able to share food creates strong bonds between people. There are so many cultural taboos regarding hospitality and food, rituals people preform. Being invited to someone's dinner party in the west also carries with it social expectations like don't arrive empty handed ect.

 

All of the above doesn't guarantee smooth relations I mean hell human with all of the advantage of being the same species in addition to what I mention still get into armed conflicts. The difference is of all the races in the ME universe only the Asari have both of those advantage and when you mate with different culture you create very strong bonds which is why marriage has been a form of treaty negotiation since forever.

 

Again this doesn't magically make the Asari and Humans agree on everything but question was "which alien race has the most ties to humans?" Hands down that is the Asari. Turians and Quarians don't share our food and by in a large are not attractive to humans thus mating pairs will be rare. While other races share our food some are separated by their atmosphere being toxic to us and they are short. Salarians share food but their biology is such that mating pairs with humans would be pointless as they don't feel sexual attraction in the same way.

 

But in the age of opinion none of this will matter because people are not driven by seeking an answer they are driven to ask a question to seek out others who agree with them confirmation bias is the internet's best friend.

[Mistic]

Turian status:
 
1)Enemies - Decades ago
2)Enemies with restraint - Decades ago until ME1
3)Friends with restraint - ME1 to ME3
4)Friends - ME3+?

 

5) Friends with benefits -ME:A (hopefully ).

 

However, despite the war narrative in the ME trilogy, I think Asari have more ties with humans just because they are the diplomatic race that gets on well with everyone. Even the concept of asari and humans being together is something that is taken for granted in the setting, and not just because the human PC wants to bang an alien.

 

The ties with the Turians feel more meaningful because they're more personal, I think. Turians helped in developing the Normandy, a Turian was the first alien we saw and recommended Shepard for the Spectres, a Turian was our first enemy, one of the few people that join you in every game is Turian, Turians were humanity's first alien enemy and in the ME3 they were the first to join the war effort. That doesn't mean that in every day life, outside war, Turians are closest to humans, just that our role gives us a skewed vision of them. In every day life, probably it says more that a human company like Sirta only hires asari for their stores.

[EpicNewb]

Those scientific studies are based on real life humans.

 

This is a discussion about ME lore.

No it is not akin to that at all.

 

Study after study shows that people we are attracted to we are more likely to believe, more likely to compromise with in a dispute. You are claim it is BS  but the studies are real. Studies also show that being able to share food creates strong bonds between people. There are so many cultural taboos regarding hospitality and food, rituals people preform. Being invited to someone's dinner party in the west also carries with it social expectations like don't arrive empty handed ect.

 

All of the above doesn't guarantee smooth relations I mean hell human with all of the advantage of being the same species in addition to what I mention still get into armed conflicts. The difference is of all the races in the ME universe only the Asari have both of those advantage and when you mate with different culture you create very strong bonds which is why marriage has been a form of treaty negotiation since forever.

 

Again this doesn't magically make the Asari and Humans agree on everything but question was "which alien race has the most ties to humans?" Hands down that is the Asari. Turians and Quarians don't share our food and by in a large are not attractive to humans thus mating pairs will be rare. While other races share our food some are separated by their atmosphere being toxic to us and they are short. Salarians share food but their biology is such that mating pairs with humans would be pointless as they don't feel sexual attraction in the same way.

 

But in the age of opinion none of this will matter because people are not driven by seeking an answer they are driven to ask a question to seek out others who agree with them confirmation bias is the internet's best friend.

[EpicNewb]

5) Friends with benefits -ME:A (hopefully ).

 

However, despite the war narrative in the ME trilogy, I think Asari have more ties with humans just because they are the diplomatic race that gets on well with everyone. Even the concept of asari and humans being together is something that is taken for granted in the setting, and not just because the human PC wants to bang an alien.

 

The ties with the Turians feel more meaningful because they're more personal, I think. Turians helped in developing the Normandy, a Turian was the first alien we saw and recommended Shepard for the Spectres, a Turian was our first enemy, one of the few people that join you in every game is Turian, Turians were humanity's first alien enemy and in the ME3 they were the first to join the war effort. That doesn't mean that in every day life, outside war, Turians are closest to humans, just that our role gives us a skewed vision of them. In every day life, probably it says more that a human company like Sirta only hires asari for their stores.

When human history is being written we'll fondly remember the Turians as our friends.  They were first in line to come to our aid during Earth's time of need

[Shinobu]

Salarians. They 've been abducting humans since the 50's.

[Revan Reborn]

Salarians. They 've been abducting humans since the 50's.

Indeed. Salarians have been watching humans very closely...

[Han Shot First]

Indeed. Salarians have been watching humans very closely...

 

 

So has the Shadow Broker...

 

[Revan Reborn]

So has the Shadow Broker...

 

[echoness]

I think Sangheili has the most ties to humans.
At first they where at war then they switched sides and help the humans defeat the covena.... Wait shlt wrong game.

Jk I mean the fallen have the most ties to humans. They're just scavengers trying to survive and they don't have any direct connection to the darknes.... Fûck.

What I really was saying is that the chicken should only be in for 30 min not 50 since it will get dry an.... Wtf.

 

And one of them write love poetry for femshep... Oh! Sarah Palmer. Lovely.

[CoM Solaufein]

Cylons

The reimagined series not that crappy 70s sh!!

[Scarlett]

I think humans and turians are complementary and I find this very interesting. We have that grain of madness they don't have and they have the disciple and self control we really lack of sometimes. Turians and humans can improve a lot together, much more than with other species to me.

 

About the asari, I won't qualify them as "friends" to humanity. They always give me that impression to have a very high opinion about themselves and are omnipresent on the galaxy and with every species in the Milky Way. To me, they are very good to sale themselves and to always find a way to make people do what they want  (Aria is a perfect example) to achieve their (positives or negatives) goals. So, friends? nope. More associates.

[CrimsonN7]

I think humans and turians are complementary and I find this very interesting. We have that grain of madness they don't have and they have the disciple and self control we really lack of sometimes. Turians and humans can improve a lot together, much more than with other species to me.

 

About the asari, I won't qualify them as "friends" to humanity. They always give me that impression to have a very high opinion about themselves and are omnipresent on the galaxy and with every species in the Milky Way. To me, they are very good to sale themselves and to always find a way to make people do what they want  (Aria is a perfect example) to achieve their (positives or negatives) goals. So, friends? nope. More associates.

 

Humans/Turians have cool relations at best, a healthy animosity towards one another. The only reason they jumped to join forces with us first was because they were also getting pwnd by the Reapers and needed Shep to get the Krogans on board. Grudgingly joined forces to fight a greater threat. First Contact War, that wound is still fresh in many minds I'd imagine.

 

As for the Asari, they're smart, they saw the potential in having humanity on their side. They were the ones (along with Salarians) who had to tell the Turians to back down from launching anymore attacks on those pesky humans. Just as well they did, could have been catastrophic. Can't recall any bad blood between Humans/Asari unlike Turians/Humans. And like it was mentioned already by some, we can share the same food, physically they would be more sexually appealing to some humans and they can mate with both genders. Which is a bonus.