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So Bioware, was your family killed by SD TVs or something?


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LyonVanguard wrote...

That is why pc is better. :P

QFT.  Why buy a console when I can buy a computer that plays any game out there instead of a limited selection of titles, and also lets me write and surf the web? 

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Bioware, is it possible for you guys to make a patch? I can't afford an HDTV. I'm a full-time student and my job only gives me hours about two times a month. :(

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Tempus Frangit wrote...

Bioware, is it possible for you guys to make a patch? I can't afford an HDTV. I'm a full-time student and my job only gives me hours about two times a month. :(


Check out the VGA cable I mentioned on the previous page (I'm sure others have brought it up over the course of this thread as well). It's around $30 and very practical for someone in your situation.

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have u all considered, simply playing with a pc screen? i'd have problem reading anything if i sat

2-3 meters away from the screen. i don't even have a tv in my apartment... never anything good on.

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Creature 1 wrote...

Felene wrote...

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Felene wrote...
Ahh, needs and wants, shall we go back to Economics in high school level?

Why are you attempting to be insulting?

I am sorry if I seem rude, high school reference is for age restrictions, last time I check Mass Effect 2 is rated for mature[18+].:police:

No, you seem like you're attempting to be rude, yet failing.  Practice makes perfect?


Ouch.:blink: You are rude.

Here is my next practice: Your account doesn't seem to have Mass Effect 2 registered. Cheap or lazy?

Back to the topic: I support $5 SDTV font fix patch.:devil:

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Yeah that's another thing. I can't justify blowing 200 bucks on a TV when...I don't watch TV anymore. Frankly the second I can afford to buy another PC (I'm slowly getting their folks!!!) I'll be happy.

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umm, i have a 28 inch monitor and the text is too big....especially those annoying tutorial big boxes on the right side of the screen....



should be smaller! so lets get the patch team catering to my specific non issue needs please, thanks!

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Felene wrote...
Ouch.:blink: You are rude.

If you don't want people to be rude to you, don't attempt to be rude to them. 

Here is my next practice: Your account doesn't seem to have Mass Effect 2 registered. Cheap or lazy?

I'd buy the game if I thought I'd like it, unfortunately from what I've seen on the forums, I probably wouldn't.  But this thread caught my eye because it relates to personal finance.  Since I'm big on saving $$, I'd say that means I'm here because I'm cheap.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

And once again, attempt failed.  Better luck next time? 

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Playing this game gives me a headache due to the text, not very enjoyable...

Modifié par Mallikas, 28 janvier 2010 - 07:58 .


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Lequin wrote...

umm, i have a 28 inch monitor and the text is too big....especially those annoying tutorial big boxes on the right side of the screen....

should be smaller! so lets get the patch team catering to my specific non issue needs please, thanks!


Except its just not one person's issue.  Many people have been complaining about the text size being to small.

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I play on a 32" HDTV with my 360 connected via HDMI.

I find the text to be somewhat readable at times, however I would prefer it if the text was given a black background so that the whiteness of the text would go well against the black background.

I would also like it if the text size was increased somewhat, or maybe have the player customise it themself via the options menu.

I don't understand why Mass Effect 2 has this issue but Mass Effect 1 didn't.

Don't get me wrong: I love Mass Effect 2 but this text issue is quite annoying.

Modifié par Dr Bob UK, 28 janvier 2010 - 08:20 .


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That's fine that some of you guys cant afford to get a HDTV or if you feel as if its not worth it. We have people saying the text is too small, the text is too big, the text is perfect. The fact is that every game will look different depending on what television its playing on. The developers have nothing to do with it.


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Garlador wrote...

It's just a common courtesy from developers to the fans to give every customer that buys their game the utmost quality and peak performance they can, and that includes the majority of buyers with standard-TVs.

It was never a game breaker, but merely a small annoyance, but one that could be remedied, either through an update or as a fix for future installments in the franchise.

Nobody is asking them to NOT make the text work on HD-TVs, but by making it work well on standard TVs... who loses? Seriously? That's a win for all parties involved and everybody would be happy.


But my financial situation has NOTHING to do with this game-related issue. Either I can spend hundreds of dollars on an extra TV for the few games that I have moderate difficulty reading text on, or Bioware could make the font slightly bigger, or at least ME1's size, and make not only me as an individual happy but the vast majority of other standard TV owners happy, and, once again, everyone wins in the long run.


I completely agree with you.

I've just buyed the game today, and the first thing I noticed was the tiny tiny text, from the main menu to the game itself. 
The font Bioware used when you have to choose an answer is incredibly small, and I have an SDTV but it's a big one (4/3 aspect ratio, 33'' big) and still I can't read anything.

It just makes no sense to me. Even if you can read it on HDTVs, why put text so small?! I see tiny text more and more in games, and I just can't understand why. Nobody in previous generations of console complained about the text being too big, and now developers put tiny text everywhere that just can't be read if you don't have a BIG HDTV and you sit near the screen.

But why? :huh:


I just hope Bioware fixes it. Playing an rpg and not being able to read anything just makes no sense. They should just put a bigger font... how hard could it be? :blink:

Modifié par Tails88, 28 janvier 2010 - 08:25 .


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the argument i keep hearing over and over is.. if you can buy me2, you can buy an HD TV. well here is something.. the OP indicated they bought a 360 in '05 (hint that was 5 YEARS AGO). his situation changed since then and he has had to.. god forbid.. cut back. so now he budgets his disposable income to 3 games a year or $180 plus tax.. that to me is not unreasonable..



he should not have to fork up the extral 300 on top of his budget to thoroughly enjoy the game.. so i dont think its unreasonable to ask bioware to modify the text size. i think people need to go outside their little box and see things from someone else's point of view..



but thats just me

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wrdnshprd wrote...

the argument i keep hearing over and over is.. if you can buy me2, you can buy an HD TV. well here is something.. the OP indicated they bought a 360 in '05 (hint that was 5 YEARS AGO). his situation changed since then and he has had to.. god forbid.. cut back. so now he budgets his disposable income to 3 games a year or $180 plus tax.. that to me is not unreasonable..

he should not have to fork up the extral 300 on top of his budget to thoroughly enjoy the game.. so i dont think its unreasonable to ask bioware to modify the text size. i think people need to go outside their little box and see things from someone else's point of view..

but thats just me


The thing is, he doesn't have to fork over anything.  Bioware obviously developed this game with HD in mind.  If people can't afford to play in HD, for WHATEVER reason, then they just have to deal with it.  Bioware made the decision.  Now its up to the comsumer to make a descision on whether or not to support this Bioware product with their $$.  Truth is, none of us have any idea how hard it would be for them to change the font size.  We haven't seen the code.   

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Got the game on XBox today...only got a STD TV and could not beileve how small the text was, may have to play this on PC...or just stick with the very small text. Come on Bioware respond please could we possibly have a slightly larger font in a patch, Im sure it can be done??

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Junebug88 wrote...

That's fine that some of you guys cant afford to get a HDTV or if you feel as if its not worth it. We have people saying the text is too small, the text is too big, the text is perfect. The fact is that every game will look different depending on what television its playing on. The developers have nothing to do with it.


Well, technically the developers do have something to do with it; they did not include an option to change the font size.  Some of the text is also difficult to read depending on whats going on behind it.  This is the reason that there should be an option to change the font size.

I do not see how asking for that option is worthy of all the crap being flung at the people requesting it, though. *shrug*

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TheOpposite wrote...

wrdnshprd wrote...

the argument i keep hearing over and over is.. if you can buy me2, you can buy an HD TV. well here is something.. the OP indicated they bought a 360 in '05 (hint that was 5 YEARS AGO). his situation changed since then and he has had to.. god forbid.. cut back. so now he budgets his disposable income to 3 games a year or $180 plus tax.. that to me is not unreasonable..

he should not have to fork up the extral 300 on top of his budget to thoroughly enjoy the game.. so i dont think its unreasonable to ask bioware to modify the text size. i think people need to go outside their little box and see things from someone else's point of view..

but thats just me


The thing is, he doesn't have to fork over anything.  Bioware obviously developed this game with HD in mind.  If people can't afford to play in HD, for WHATEVER reason, then they just have to deal with it.  Bioware made the decision.  Now its up to the comsumer to make a descision on whether or not to support this Bioware product with their $$.  Truth is, none of us have any idea how hard it would be for them to change the font size.  We haven't seen the code.   


what you say makes sense and is a reasonable argument. 

however, saying 'just upgrade to HDTV already...'  is not.  and unfortunately ive seen that kind of attitued quite a bit in this thread.

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Im4g1ne wrote...

Dead Rising anyone? Lol. Just get a HDTV and that'll end your issues.

I don't really think "Just get a HDTV" is a helpful suggestion. Sure, most of us (including me) have HDTVs and we don't need to worry about this issue w/ small text on SDTVs. But HDTVs are not cheap, and it's kind of rude to assume that it's no big deal for somebody to go out and spend $500+ on an HDTV because of unreadable text in ME2. It's really something that developers (like Capcom w/ Dead Rising, and Bioware with ME2) should keep in mind as they are testing.

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TheOpposite wrote...

The thing is, he doesn't have to fork over anything.  Bioware obviously developed this game with HD in mind.  If people can't afford to play in HD, for WHATEVER reason, then they just have to deal with it.  Bioware made the decision.  Now its up to the comsumer to make a descision on whether or not to support this Bioware product with their $$.  Truth is, none of us have any idea how hard it would be for them to change the font size.  We haven't seen the code.   


But the Xbox 360 does have an option to support SDTVs in the dashboard, and on the game cover I don't see any warning saying "to read this game you need an HDTV".

I payed the game 60 buck just like anyone else. My money is good, so I want to use what I've payed for. I don't think I'm asking too much.


It's just a font. They just have to put a bigger font. How hard could that possibly be?:huh:
And even if it's hard, they should support every player. Xbox 360 does work with SDTVs, so the games must work just fine, too. 
Am I asking for the moon?

Modifié par Tails88, 28 janvier 2010 - 10:49 .


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VisceralVillain wrote...

Hellrazer360 wrote...

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HD here and the text is fine. OP, stop living in the stone age. HDTV's aren't that expensive. If you can afford a current gen console i'm sure you can afford a nice 26" HDTV for the same price.

Not really actually, I bought my xbox 360 back in 2005 when it came out and back then I had way more money than I have now. A year and a half ago I had my house get foreclosed and the last financial thought I'm having is an HDTV. I dont have even $200 to spare right now.


If that really is your financial situation then why are you spending even $60 on a video game, when you don't even have $200 to spare?  It sounds to me like you need to get your priorities straight.

In regards to the HDTV situation, I do understand your plight.  Though I'm not in the same boat, I can see where that would be frustrating.  Have you tried getting some VGA cables and hooking your XBox up to your computer monitor??  It works great. and far cheaper than a new TV

Oh Believe me I got my stuff straight. Games are the only real luxury item I buy and even then I only buy them once every 4 or 5 months. Plus I said I dont have $200 to spend not $60. $200 and $60 are very different from each other in terms of having them available.

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TheOpposite wrote...

wrdnshprd wrote...

the argument i keep hearing over and over is.. if you can buy me2, you can buy an HD TV. well here is something.. the OP indicated they bought a 360 in '05 (hint that was 5 YEARS AGO). his situation changed since then and he has had to.. god forbid.. cut back. so now he budgets his disposable income to 3 games a year or $180 plus tax.. that to me is not unreasonable..

he should not have to fork up the extral 300 on top of his budget to thoroughly enjoy the game.. so i dont think its unreasonable to ask bioware to modify the text size. i think people need to go outside their little box and see things from someone else's point of view..

but thats just me


The thing is, he doesn't have to fork over anything.  Bioware obviously developed this game with HD in mind.  If people can't afford to play in HD, for WHATEVER reason, then they just have to deal with it.  Bioware made the decision.  Now its up to the comsumer to make a descision on whether or not to support this Bioware product with their $$.  Truth is, none of us have any idea how hard it would be for them to change the font size.  We haven't seen the code.   

True that none of us knows what it really takes but like I said if Rare can do it then Bioware can do it seen as how they probably have a much bigger fan base.

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Tails88 wrote...

It's just a font. They just have to put a bigger font. How hard could that possibly be?:huh:
And even if it's hard, they should support every player. Xbox 360 does work with SDTVs, so the games must work just fine, too. 
Am I asking for the moon?



It's not just a font size issue, it's a GUI issue. If they adjust the size of the text, it would mean a re-design of the layout in certain situations where dialoge boxes and interfaces overlap and are not meant to obscure game play field of view. For them to do this, it would require a re-working of the GUI for the entire game start to finish. Sure they would not have to touch the underlying game, but the tuser interface and ext overlays would require manpower and resources Bioware/EA has already had move on to other content/projects.

That's why I still stand by my opinions that your pleas no matter how sincere and vocal, will be futile at best. They made their choice during the design faze long ago to go with what they have released.

Bioware/EA is not Rare, and Mass Effect 2 is not your kid friendly B&K Nuts and Bolts. Expecting them to behave the same in this situation is false hope. 

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All i know is i got myself a 32in LCD HDTV to use as my monitor and i use my 22in LCD monitor as my 2nd monitor. And it looks great!