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[Madapaca]

SrGrvsaLot wrote...

I'm willing to bet that the reason the majority (barely) of tvs are hdtv (as of mid 2009) is not due to people deliberately upgrading so much as it is due to the fact that all new televisions are hd. Every year, a certain percentage of the population has cause to buy a new television (for whatever reason - they move, their old one wears out or gets broken, whatever) - and because hd is the new standard, these people are buying hd. What they are almost certainly not doing (by and large) is throwing away perfectly good sdtv's explicitly for the performance improvement.

My next television will definitely be an hd, but I'm not going to get a new one until I've gotten all the use out of my current one.

While it's true that pretty much every new TV sold now is HD-TV since the FCC mandate that all new TVs manufactured after 2007 be digital, you are downplaying the adoption quite a bit. Ever since the end of 2006, each quarter of retail the demand for flat screen, HD-TVs has seen huge increases. Most people factor in purchasing them simply because of the form factor over function, but the majority state the function as their final buying decision.

I find it so utterly bizzare that someone can honestly say, that if you had a 4:3 SD-TV sitting side by side with a 16:9 HD-TV running the same same movie; that they could not tell a noticeable difference.

My mother used to always watch the news and movies in her room because she hated to watch TV with my dad. (Different tastes etc). She would also constantly complain when borrowing movies from us on DVD about the letterboxing and the movie not taking up the whole screen. For Xmas, my wife and I bought them a HD-TV as well as HD for their cable TV. After hooking it up, my mother actually started remote wars with my dad because she loved the clairity and overall picture quality compared to her old TV. She actually said if she had known what all the fuss was about she would have let my father buy one sooner like he wanted to. She is borrowing our Blu-rays contantly now (We had to buy her a Blu-Ray player this month for their anniversary) and even some of our older DVDs that she passed on because of the widescreen issue no longer being a problem for her.

SrGrvsaLot, I'm happy for you that you say you are perfectly content with your SD-TV for the time being. In my opinion when you do get around to upgrading yourself though, you're going to kick yourself in the rear for not doing it sooner.

Modifié par Madapaca, 28 janvier 2010 - 12:57 .

[Descedent]

If you think there is hardly a difference between sd and 1080p your eye doctor is that way ---->

[SrGrvsaLot]

Descedent wrote...

If you think there is hardly a difference between sd and 1080p your eye doctor is that way ---->

There's a difference, but it's not a difference that's worth $200 dollars and the hassle of replacing something that already works perfectly well for the applications I require of it.

Hell, it's a pain in the ass simply getting rid of used electronics. And the SD tv I have is a nice, big one. Just the thought of hauling it out of the entertainment center is enough to ensure that it will stay where it is for years to come.

[Descedent]

Enjoy downgraded games then you cheap ass. Spend 300+ dollars on 360 or pc thats main point is to be gaming in HD of this generation. Time to move on from the 90s my friend.



Sucks for you. Your missing out on what me2 actually looks like along with every other game. Enjoy wasteing your money on $60 HD games then. Cause your severly over paying playing in sd





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[Descedent]

Enjoy downgraded games then you cheap ass. Spend 300+ dollars on 360 or pc thats main point is to be gaming in HD of this generation. Time to move on from the 90s my friend.



Sucks for you. Your missing out on what me2 actually looks like along with every other game. Enjoy wasteing your money on $60 HD games then. Cause your severly over paying playing in sd

[charmingcharlie]

You have to just shake your head at some of the replies on this board about this issue. Seriously telling someone to "stop being cheap and buy a HDTV" is a ridiculous thing to say. You would be surprised how many people are still playing on a SDTV. I would say that HDTV's are still a minority compared to the number of SDTV's that are still being used.
The whole point of consoles is that they are a cheap way of getting into gaming. Time and time again I see people going "oh why buy a PC for gaming when consoles are so cheap". Now all of a sudden it doesn't seem so cheap to me you have to factor in the cost of a whole new TV.
This is just another example of Bioware not using a bit of thought and catering for all their fans. It really wouldn't have been a major investment in resources just to give people an option to make the font size bigger for the millions of users that still game on a SDTV.
I don't game on a console (can't stand the things) but even I understand where the OP and many others are coming from and we should all be backing them and agreeing that it is ridiculous that this game is restricted to people that own a HDTV.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 28 janvier 2010 - 01:43 .

[bombUp]

jaboaty wrote...

 Maybe you could've spent a little less time making a gigantic DLC scavenger hunt and a little more time making the game playable for everyone. Im sure its probably been said to death, but text is completely unreadable on SD TVs.

I am enjoying the game (about as much as I can) but is this a sign showing how you plan on treating your customers in the future?  Considering how much I've enjoyed your past games, this is really disappointing.

I second this. There is no reason to have the text this small.

[Kohaku]

Even with my HDTV the text looks small as heck. Then again my eyes aren't doing well lately so the text looks blurry as well. Time for those glasses I've been putting off.

[mickiluscheez]

While I personally own and use a SDTV myself I don't think standard format should be supported anymore whatsoever. Movies & Television have generally been shot with wide gauge lenses regularly since the 50's and have been converted into standard format rather than left in widescreen. Why it took technology so long to develop a widescreen format we should have been using all along is beyond me, but now that standard format televisions are no longer produced at all, and standard format monitors are still made and sold but are the vast minority, I personally think standard format games, media, movies, and television should stop being made and supported. It's simply a waste of money and recources for something that is being phased out incredibly quickly and won't exist in about 5 more years tops.

Modifié par mickiluscheez, 28 janvier 2010 - 02:01 .

[Tai MT]

It isn't about being able to afford an HDTV. It's about the percieve need for one. When you already own a TV, what is the point of buying a brand new one? Your old TV still works, so why bother? Sure, I could buy an HDTV, but just so I can read the text in TWO GAMES that I own? That's stupid. Bioware should do what Rare did with Nuts and Bolts and patch the stupid text so SDTV users like myself can read it as well. There is literally no excuse for text this small, especially when they've wasted so much screen space on other things being displayed at the same time. Especially in places like the CODEX. I'm sure you could improve text size without hindering gameplay what-so-ever. Seriously companies, knock this off. I don't want to be alienated as a customer just because you think we should all have HDTVs by now.

[Steeeve718]

The text should be bigger regardless. It's one thing that I cant read anything on my crappy 20" SDTV I got at Walmart 3 years ago for $90 (hey... I'm about to graduate college, have no job, and need to save money for more important things), but I played it on my roommate's brand new 32" 1080i LCD and I still could barely read anything. Do I need glasses? Maybe, but I've never had problems seeing anything on any other games on any size TV.

[Jerryk72]

ME2 isn't the first game to suffer this problem. Most games are like that now. For example, have you tried playing GTA IV on a SD TV? You can barely read anything, especially on the cell phone. Games today are built to be enjoyed on HD sets. They will still work on SDTV's, you'll just have to squint.

[Incognito_Panda]

I play on SD as well. Though I don't blame BioWare for the SD-thing, but even on HDTVs the text is small. I mean at least they could have given us some margins or options?



Anyway, where I live, you'll need 1000$ to get the cheapest 40" HDTV, and maybe 600 if you want a boring less than 30" inch TV. I'm not even 18, so spending 600-1000$ on a TV is out of the question, sorry guys.

[The Real Sulaco]

Hey Bioware, what's with all the colour in the game? It all looks the same on my black & white TV. Please release a high-contrast black & white patch with the next DLC.



Thanks.

[Guaritor]

Descedent wrote...

Enjoy downgraded games then you cheap ass. Spend 300+ dollars on 360 or pc thats main point is to be gaming in HD of this generation. Time to move on from the 90s my friend.

Sucks for you. Your missing out on what me2 actually looks like along with every other game. Enjoy wasteing your money on $60 HD games then. Cause your severly over paying playing in sd

Cheap? Working my way through college, having to pay bills, food, books every semseter (which right there is probably the cost of a fvcking HDTV).  Im not cheap, i just don't have the expendable income right now to throw at something as meaningless as a TV, especially not when I already have one... that worked perfectly fine with ME1.

Im not asking BW to perform miracles and make my SDTV look as good as an HDTV, I just want to be able to read the text, its not even optimizing it for SD, just larger text would make sense for everyone... even the same size as ME1.

[0Gabe0]

OMG YES.. couldnt read the damn text... barey ... me 1 the text was huge///

[Creature 1]

Guaritor wrote...

Descedent wrote...

Enjoy downgraded games then you cheap ass. Spend 300+ dollars on 360 or pc thats main point is to be gaming in HD of this generation. Time to move on from the 90s my friend.

Sucks for you. Your missing out on what me2 actually looks like along with every other game. Enjoy wasteing your money on $60 HD games then. Cause your severly over paying playing in sd

Cheap? Working my way through college, having to pay bills, food, books every semseter (which right there is probably the cost of a fvcking HDTV).  Im not cheap, i just don't have the expendable income right now to throw at something as meaningless as a TV, especially not when I already have one... that worked perfectly fine with ME1.

Just put it on your credit card, I'm sure that's what Descedent (does he mean Descendent?) would do. 

[Loerwyn]

Guaritor wrote...

Descedent wrote...

Enjoy downgraded games then you cheap ass. Spend 300+ dollars on 360 or pc thats main point is to be gaming in HD of this generation. Time to move on from the 90s my friend.

Sucks for you. Your missing out on what me2 actually looks like along with every other game. Enjoy wasteing your money on $60 HD games then. Cause your severly over paying playing in sd

Cheap? Working my way through college, having to pay bills, food, books every semseter (which right there is probably the cost of a fvcking HDTV).  Im not cheap, i just don't have the expendable income right now to throw at something as meaningless as a TV, especially not when I already have one... that worked perfectly fine with ME1.

Im not asking BW to perform miracles and make my SDTV look as good as an HDTV, I just want to be able to read the text, its not even optimizing it for SD, just larger text would make sense for everyone... even the same size as ME1.

Forgive my ignorance, but if you don't have much expendable income right now, why are you buying games like ME2, especially this close to release?

[Satanicfirewraith]

jaboaty wrote...

 Maybe you could've spent a little less time making a gigantic DLC scavenger hunt and a little more time making the game playable for everyone. Im sure its probably been said to death, but text is completely unreadable on SD TVs.

I am enjoying the game (about as much as I can) but is this a sign showing how you plan on treating your customers in the future?  Considering how much I've enjoyed your past games, this is really disappointing.

You know, I have a sdtv and its hard to read.... whats worse is some of them are unreadable not because of the size of the text but because of the backround bing the same color or to bright and completely obscurse the text. Its really frelling annoying let me tell you.
Also the whole orange color is kinda a pain in the ass! I with we could change it back to blue!

[Satanicfirewraith]

Im4g1ne wrote...

Dead Rising anyone? Lol. Just get a HDTV and that'll end your issues.

Well as soon as you send some of us that cash to get a nice 42 in flatscreen high def tv we will upgrade.
Til then please stick your head back in your ***