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Topic says it all, is there any chance we get dedicated multiplayer servers? I'd even be willing to pay for one myself, if it spared me the atrocious player-hosting system.

 

Are dedicated servers still a thing these days? haven't played any multiplayer besides ME3 for like 5 to 10 years, so i wouldn't know. Do other EA games have them?



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I would definitely prefer it, but I doubt it will happen with ME:A.  It could happen, but it's doubtful.



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Who said anything about multiplayer in MEA? I hated ME3's copy/paste multiplayer that was clearly a rip-off of Halo's Firefight, Gear's Horde, CoD's Zombies, etc.

 

I'd rather have coop than another boring ME3 MP that is nothing more than a tedious and redundant grind attempting to encourage people to spend money on silly microtransactions.


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Who said anything about multiplayer in MEA? I hated ME3's copy/paste multiplayer that was clearly a rip-off of Halo's Firefight, Gear's Horde, CoD's Zombies, etc.

 

I'd rather have coop than another boring ME3 MP that is nothing more than a tedious and redundant grind attempting to encourage people to spend money on silly microtransactions.

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Plenty of people feel otherwise and it is in fact quite popular as well. And it definitely isn't tedious or redundant to me even now after 3 years! 

 

On topic, dedicated servers would definitely solve a lot of the off host issues and lag which would mean better team performance overall. It's definitely possible like the case of DICE with battlefield having the same game engine which has dedicated servers for online pvp. I'm not holding my breath though. 


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Plenty of people feel otherwise and it is in fact quite popular as well. And it definitely isn't tedious or redundant to me even now after 3 years! 

 

On topic, dedicated servers would definitely solve a lot of the off host issues and lag which would mean better team performance overall. I'm not holding my breath though.

It is my opinion that ME3 MP sucks. It is fact that it is a blatant rip-off of Halo, Gears, Call of Duty, and various other games. BioWare even stated they looked at other games in the industry with competitive multiplayer to see what they could do.

 

People still play WoW 12 years after its release and I think that game is absolutely boring. The only point you are making is people don't have sense and don't know what's fun or not. I'm glad some folks like ME3's MP. I've just been playing that game mode for years and don't care for it in Mass Effect.



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Who said anything about multiplayer in MEA? I hated ME3's copy/paste multiplayer that was clearly a rip-off of Halo's Firefight, Gear's Horde, CoD's Zombies, etc.
 
I'd rather have coop than another boring ME3 MP that is nothing more than a tedious and redundant grind attempting to encourage people to spend money on silly microtransactions.

ugh, of course such a reply had to come. guess i should have expected it.

can't you go troll somewhere else? if you didn't like the multiplayer of MEA, then just ignore it. or even better: go back to playing halo or gears, whose multiplayer was soo original and innovative and not in any way a rip-off of 20 years old multiplayer modes in games like quake or unreal tournament and the likes.

besides, there is absolutely zero chance of MEA not getting a multiplayer mode. multiplayer was after all the most profitable thing about ME3. and you know, the leaks that already confirmed it.

 

I would definitely prefer it, but I doubt it will happen with ME:A. It could happen, but it's doubtful.


was afraid that could be the case. just thought they might pour more resources into it this time, give the success of ME3s multiplayer.
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ugh, of course such a reply had to come. guess i should have expected it.

can't you go troll somewhere else? if you didn't like the multiplayer of MEA, then just ignore it. or even better: go back to playing halo or gears, whose multiplayer was soo original and innovative and not in any way a rip-off of 20 years old multiplayer modes in games like quake or unreal tournament and the likes.

besides, there is absolutely zero chance of MEA not getting a multiplayer mode. multiplayer was after all the most profitable thing about ME3. and you know, the leaks that already condirmed it.

Not trolling at all. I would just rather BioWare not waste resources on yet another fail multiplayer system. ME3 was bad enough. DAI's MP was even worse. These resources could go into a better story and all sorts of other things to make the single player campaign more incredible.

 

So you admit that ME3 MP is a rip-off of previous games? Cool. Glad we cleared that up.

 

Of course it was the most profitable, because of microtransactions... Not because it was so great, but because people were dumb enough to spend money to try and get new weapons or characters.

 

For the record, leaks are not confirmation. BioWare has never officially stated MP is in, so assuming it is could be a terrible wake up call for you. Of course, BioWare Montreal made the ME3 MP, so it's likely coming back. However, until E3, I wouldn't assume too much. You know what happens to those who assume?



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It is my opinion that ME3 MP sucks. It is fact that it is a blatant rip-off of Halo, Gears, Call of Duty, and various other games. BioWare even stated they looked at other games in the industry with competitive multiplayer to see what they could do.

 

People still play WoW 12 years after its release and I think that game is absolutely boring. The only point you are making is people don't have sense and don't know what's fun or not. I'm glad some folks like ME3's MP. I've just been playing that game mode for years and don't care for it in Mass Effect.

Haha now on what scale did you measure what's fun for someone? Blanket statements never go well man especially when you assume your opinion to be objectively better than that of others.  Besides COD zombies? Yeah I'm sure that was totally original as well. Hey from that same point of view bioware is ripping off with Andromeda as well since rpgs have existed long before these games and its such a blatant copy of these earlier games as well. So we wouldn't want Andromeda to have any rpg elements as well do we, for copyrights sake?

 

The point I'm trying to make here is that, sure it has some similar elements but I do not see any "blatant rip-off here" unless you consider games in the same genre to be complete rip-offs of each other. Besides its fun and has way more depth than what you'd initially believe. 


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On topic, dedicated servers would definitely solve a lot of the off host issues and lag which would mean better team performance overall. It's definitely possible like the case of DICE with battlefield having the same game engine which has dedicated servers for online pvp. I'm not holding my breath though.


That is good to know. So there is a slight chance we get some servers. nice.

 

bioware staff reads this forums right? *hint*



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That is good to know. So there is a slight chance we get some servers. nice.

 

bioware staff reads this forums right? *hint*

Then again  lel EA lel.


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I really hope so. The dreadful hosted-multiplayer system we had for ME3 should be a crime in gaming industry these days, especially if you were quick into implementing microtransactions...

 

There should be dedicated servers for regions all around the globe so people who bought the game can actually have a decent MP experience.

Give us a server list and let us know region, ping, If the match has started, etc. Features we are supposed to have in multiplayer. Basic stuff.



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Haha now on what scale did you measure what's fun for someone? Blanket statements never go well man especially when you assume your opinion to be objectively better than that of others.  Besides COD zombies? Yeah I'm sure that was totally original as well. Hey from that same point of view bioware is ripping off with Andromeda as well since rpgs have existed long before these games and its such a blatant copy of these earlier games as well. So we wouldn't want Andromeda to have any rpg elements as well do we, for copyrights sake?

 

The point I'm trying to make here is that, sure it has some similar elements but I do not see any "blatant rip-off here" unless you consider games in the same genre to be complete rip-offs of each other. Besides its fun and has way more depth than what you'd initially believe. 

I'm going to assume you have never played Halo, Gears, or CoD. ME3 MP is literally a direct copy of their specific game modes (Firefight, Horde, Zombies). Yes, it is a "blatant rip-off" and that's not an overstatement. I don't believe I ever said my opinion was "superior." I do believe it is boring, unoriginal, and I'd rather see BioWare use their money elsewhere.

 

With regard to the call of the question though, dedicated servers happening? No. BioWare isn't DICE. Multiplayer is not their primary feature that they are going to promote. It's secondary and a feature only a fraction of the community cares about. ME3 MP didn't have dedicated servers. DAI didn't have dedicated servers. MEA, assuming it has the same lame ME3 multiplayer, won't have dedicated servers.



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Plenty of people feel otherwise and it is in fact quite popular as well. And it definitely isn't tedious or redundant to me even now after 3 years! 

 

On topic, dedicated servers would definitely solve a lot of the off host issues and lag which would mean better team performance overall. It's definitely possible like the case of DICE with battlefield having the same game engine which has dedicated servers for online pvp. I'm not holding my breath though. 

 

Maybe popular here, but everyone knows it's just a generic horde mode. Simple as that. As for the OP, dedicated servers would be more than welcome, but it's unlikely considering the mode just isn't as popular as other games from EA that are built around their MP content. 


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Knowing EA it'll be ran on a VPS not a dedicated server.



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I'm going to assume you have never played Halo, Gears, or CoD. ME3 MP is literally a direct copy of their specific game modes (Firefight, Horde, Zombies). Yes, it is a "blatant rip-off" and that's not an overstatement. I don't believe I ever said my opinion was "superior." I do believe it is boring, unoriginal, and I'd rather see BioWare use their money elsewhere.

 

With regard to the call of the question though, dedicated servers happening? No. BioWare isn't DICE. Multiplayer is not their primary feature that they are going to promote. It's secondary and a feature only a fraction of the community cares about. ME3 MP didn't have dedicated servers. DAI didn't have dedicated servers. MEA, assuming it has the same lame ME3 multiplayer, won't have dedicated servers.

your argument is utter nonesense. the multiplayer mode brought in way more money than it cost in development, hence talking about "using the money elsewhere" makes no sense whatsoever. quite the contrary actually, as it creates more funds to spend on other parts of the game.

 

and yes, Mass effect copied the multiplayer from other games. just as halo, gears and COD copied pretty much every single aspect of their games from other games that were even older. so what of it? i'd take a good copy over a bad innovation any day of the week.

 

 

anyway, bioware devs have been talking about MEA multiplayer on twitter already, so you might as well stop your crusade now.



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The hamsters are dedicated, but there's only so much they can do.


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Haven't played any gears of war true but I have played some halo and a **** ton of COD zombies. And I dunno how a zombie horde gameplay is not a rip-off off the many other zombie horde games that already exist. Also unless I'm wrong, there were other survival games before gear of war popularized the concept. So I dunno why you'd not consider these to be rip off as well! And you still haven't cleared my confusion about the whole borrowing the rpg element issue either?

 

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... I don't believe I ever said my opinion was "superior." 

 

 

 ...The only point you are making is people don't have sense and don't know what's fun or not.

Don't really want to nitpick but you kinda did man. I understand if you think its boring and that's fine but assuming everyone sensible feels the same way isn't exactly an absolute truth.  Besides if its generic and boring why is it still so popular even now with no support from the devs? And not just people from BSN either, its still easy to find a full lobby within seconds on ps3 which is strage for a boring redundant horde mode grinder!

 

Lol to be honest, I dunno why I'm even arguing here. You enjoy the SP man and let the people who enjoy the Mp do their own thing. Or keep complaining about diverted funding even though that's not how it works and it's kinda pointless.


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your argument is utter nonesense. the multiplayer mode brought in way more money than it cost in development, hence talking about "using the money elsewhere" makes no sense whatsoever. quite the contrary actually, as it creates more funds to spend on other parts of the game.

 

and yes, Mass effect copied the multiplayer from other games. just as halo, gears and COD copied pretty much every single aspect of their games from other games that were even older. so what of it? i'd take a good copy over a bad innovation any day of the week.

 

 

anyway, bioware devs have been talking about MEA multiplayer on twitter already, so you might as well stop your crusade now.

Not at all. Microtransactions can easily be implemented into the single player if EA is looking to steal money from gullible consumers. They don't need an unoriginal and redundant MP if they are just looking to make an easy buck.

 

It is that very mentality that allows over-bloated franchises, like CoD, to remain annual releases. It is people, like yourself, who are gullible enough to buy the same experience every year and not expect innovation and creativity in future games. Wouldn't you rather BioWare actually try to make a better MP rather than just copy/paste something they've already done? Isn't the whole point of game development to experiment and do something never done before? The game industry is not Hollywood. It needs to stop acting like it.

 

As I said, considering BioWare Montreal made ME3 MP, I'm expecting it in this game. EA is also requiring BioWare to have MP in all of their games, because EA believes MP = $$$. Regardless, that does not change the fact you will not be getting dedicated servers. Again, MP is a secondary feature in BioWare games, not the primary feature. EA will not invest those kinds of resources for BioWare to do that. Peer-to-peer hosting is what you'll get and what you should expect.


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Yeah, definitely.

 

I'm not the biggest fan of MP, but ME3:MP was kinda fun, unfortunately, when when I can only play one game out of two or three and not get disconnected, I'm not even going to bother trying. (ditto for DA:I MP, only that was terrible even without the connectivity problems.)


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Not at all. Microtransactions can easily be implemented into the single player if EA is looking to steal money from gullible consumers. They don't need an unoriginal and redundant MP if they are just looking to make an easy buck.

Huh? But I didn't spend a dime on the Mp other than just buying the game! 


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Huh? But I didn't spend a dime on the Mp other than just buying the game! 

Plenty of others did, which is why ME3 MP was so profitable. Why do you think all of the content was "free"? BioWare was raking in money of gullible consumers who were buying Spectre crates and what have you in order to get rare weapons, characters, etc.



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Not at all. Microtransactions can easily be implemented into the single player if EA is looking to steal money from gullible consumers. They don't need an unoriginal and redundant MP if they are just looking to make an easy buck.


That is irrelevant. Multiplayer made more money than it required to make. period.
 

It is that very mentality that allows over-bloated franchises, like CoD, to remain annual releases. It is people, like yourself, who are gullible enough to buy the same experience every year and not expect innovation and creativity in future games. Wouldn't you rather BioWare actually try to make a better MP rather than just copy/paste something they've already done? Isn't the whole point of game development to experiment and do something never done before? The game industry is not Hollywood. It needs to stop acting like it.


What exactly makes you think I support any of those games at all? Call of Duty already was a lame game right from very the first game, because it was a one-to-one copy of "medal of honour". I don't even know what COD titles came out the past few years. And I don't even have a console, so playing halo or gears is not an option for me anyway. Played the first halo back in the day some ...idk, 10 years, 15 years(?) ago, and tried the first gears for 15 minutes before i got annoyed.
You on the other hand seem to have plenty experience on those three games, seing as you can't write a single post without referencing them. Yet you blame me for the misery of the gaming industry? whatever next...

As for MEA: I never said that I don't want them to come up with new ideas. doesn't mean i can't enjoy well-proven concepts.


Actually, considering that you claim to have the authority over what constitutes fun and what doesn't, I really don't know why i'm even talking to you.
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Plenty of others did, which is why ME3 MP was so profitable. Why do you think all of the content was "free"? BioWare was raking in money of gullible consumers who were buying Spectre crates and what have you in order to get rare weapons, characters, etc.

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That is irrelevant. Multiplayer made more money than it required to make. period.
 

What exactly makes you think I support any of those games at all? Call of Duty already was a lame game right from very the first game, because it was a one-to-one copy of "medal of honour". I don't even know what COD titles came out the past few years. And I don't even have a console, so playing halo or gears is not an option for me anyway. Played the first halo back in the day some ...idk, 10 years, 15 years(?) ago, and tried the first gears for 15 minutes before i got annoyed.
You on the other hand seem to have plenty experience on those three games, seing as you can't write a single post without referencing them. Yet you blame me for the misery of the gaming industry? whatever next...

As for MEA: I never said that I don't want them to come up with new ideas. doesn't mean i can't enjoy well-proven concepts.


Actually, considering that you claim to have the authority over what constitutes fun and what doesn't, I really don't know why i'm even talking to you.

What you are actually articulating is you like ME3 MP because it seems new and fresh to you due to not playing longstanding franchises that already had a similar game mode. Because it is new and fresh to you, it then must return because you like it, even though those of us who have a much larger catalog of games we've played had already experienced this cookie cutter MP more times than we care to share. I finally understand you now.

 

It's perfectly find if you concede you like ME3 MP because it's new to you. However, instead of being that "one-to-one copy of 'medal of honour,'" shouldn't you, yourself, be against ME3 MP for the very fact it's as unoriginal as CoD? Either way, it's a cyclical argument because you like a generic MP most games have had for years and you won't change your position on that very fact.

 

I just hope BioWare goes back to what they are best at: innovating instead of just copying what other studios do.



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I'm going to assume you have never played Halo, Gears, or CoD. ME3 MP is literally a direct copy of their specific game modes (Firefight, Horde, Zombies). Yes, it is a "blatant rip-off" and that's not an overstatement. I don't believe I ever said my opinion was "superior." I do believe it is boring, unoriginal, and I'd rather see BioWare use their money elsewhere.

 

With regard to the call of the question though, dedicated servers happening? No. BioWare isn't DICE. Multiplayer is not their primary feature that they are going to promote. It's secondary and a feature only a fraction of the community cares about. ME3 MP didn't have dedicated servers. DAI didn't have dedicated servers. MEA, assuming it has the same lame ME3 multiplayer, won't have dedicated servers.

The game mode is the same but that is it. The gameplay is quite different, and quite awesome.