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#76
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Dedicated servers, crossplatform multiplayer.

Make it so.

 

Pigs will fly before Microsoft and Sony decide to take out the stick of their a**es and allow cross-platform multiplayer. I for one would love the idea of playing with PS and Xbox users.



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And yet, I can't help but notice you fail to provide any evidence requested.

 

I've played six hundred plus hours. I know of people with two, three, four times as many hours played. I've never paid a cent for the game. To this day, on any platform, you still have a healthy player base. Sure, not as healthy as it was four years ago, but games can still be found and joined easily, with new people still joining.

 

Yeah, it's all about money. Not the fact that people can finally play something else than human and that the game is actually fun.

I'm not saying some folks don't like it. Clearly, they do. Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I'm just stating ME3 MP's bread and butter is the microtransactions. That's where EA is making the money. What evidence you need? Look at every EA game made with multiplayer. All of them have microtransactions or some sort of season pass. EA wouldn't continue to use the same model over and over if it wasn't making money.

 

I'm glad you had enough sense not to spend money to play the multiplayer. You don't have to. However, many people are more than happy to because they don't have the time to invest "six hundred plus hours."

 

Beating the game on insanity and actually being able to play gold/platinum much less being able to clutch or solo waves in them are two very different things. Also I dunno if you've noticed it but you tend to repeat the same points over and over, oblivious to all the logical counter arguments which clearly state otherwise. I'd like to keep pointing out the logical fallacies here but then I remember these words of wisdom by our resident mexican druglord;

I'm aware. I made that distinction quite early on in my post. Fallacy? I've been pretty consistent. ME3 MP is boring and should be scrapped. I also stated dedicated servers aren't happening, so this thread should have been closed two pages ago. Anything else you'd like to add?



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I'm aware. I made that distinction quite early on in my post. Fallacy? I've been pretty consistent. ME3 MP is boring and should be scrapped. I also stated dedicated servers aren't happening, so this thread should have been closed two pages ago. Anything else you'd like to add?

 

. The only point you are making is people don't have sense and don't know what's fun or not. I'm glad some folks like ME3's MP. 

 

 I don't believe I ever said my opinion was "superior." I do believe it is boring, unoriginal, and I'd rather see BioWare use their money elsewhere.

First there's the whole argument that funds are diverted from sp due to mp which is silly as they are headed by different teams with independant budgets. Yet you still insist on propagating that load of shite. 

 

Then there's the insistence that your opinions are only a matter of personal feelings and yet you also seem to believe that god himself appointed you to be the scrounge of online multiplayer of all kinds, for everyone :blink: . Mate, the multiplayer is boring to you fine but it's not to a huge amount of people so insisting on its ban is idiotic even from a business point of view. 

 

I feel like you're either as crazy as Patrick the starfish or as good of a troll as emperor Palpatine.  Either ways, I'm done. Cheerios! 



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First there's the whole argument that funds are diverted from sp due to mp which is silly as they are headed by different teams with independant budgets. Yet you still insist on propagating that load of shite. 

 

Then there's the insistence that your opinions are only a matter of personal feelings and yet you also seem to believe that god himself appointed you to be the scrounge of online multiplayer of all kinds, for everyone :blink: . Mate, the multiplayer is boring to you fine but it's not to a huge amount of people so insisting on its ban is idiotic even from a business point of view. 

 

I feel like you're either as crazy as Patrick the starfish or as good of a troll as emperor Palpatine.  Either ways, I'm done. Cheerios! 

I stand corrected on that point. BioWare Montreal made ME3 MP and had a separate budget. BioWare Edmonton made the single player experience for ME3. However, the point still is very much established that EA is putting funds into multiplayer at all, which probably could go into single player if EA wasn't so obsessed with all their games having MP.

 

As far as people not having sense and not knowing what fun is, I was being facetious. Humor that was clearly lost on you, however. One man's trash is another man's treasure. I'm not talking about banning it, just overhauling it to be more original. If that's not possible, I'd be down for integrated coop in the single player though. I think that would be more fun.

 

I have to admit Darth Sidious was one of my role models growing up... Cheerio!


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I stand corrected on that point. BioWare Montreal made ME3 MP and had a separate budget. BioWare Edmonton made the single player experience for ME3. However, the point still is very much established that EA is putting funds into multiplayer at all, which probably could go into single player if EA wasn't so obsessed with all their games having MP.

 

As far as people not having sense and not knowing what fun is, I was being facetious. Humor that was clearly lost on you, however. One man's trash is another man's treasure. I'm not talking about banning it, just overhauling it to be more original. If that's not possible, I'd be down for integrated coop in the single player though. I think that would be more fun.

 

I have to admit Darth Sidious was one of my role models growing up... Cheerio!

Clearly you were not on both accounts :lol: Good try at a save though! Also I'm glad to see that this thread had at least some impact on your view about the multiplayer and perhaps on others who may hold such a prejudice against the mp. (although I could be dead wrong)

 

Also Revan is my favorite character from all of Star Wars Fyi although I felt Sidious was a little pansy!



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Clearly you were not on both accounts :lol: Good try at a save though! Also I'm glad to see that this thread had at least some impact on your view about the multiplayer and perhaps on others who may hold such a prejudice against the mp. (although I could be dead wrong)

 

Also Revan is my favorite character from all of Star Wars Fyi although I felt Sidious was a little pansy!

Eh not really. I might play it every now and then, but if it's the same as ME3 MP, it will get boring and I'll move on to something else. Like I said, I'd rather have actual coop integrated into the single player instead of just surviving waves of enemies over and over. Either way, we aren't getting dedicated hosts, so connectivity is going to be a gamble every match!

 

He's mine too! KotOR II is my favorite Star Wars game (besides SWG) partially because it expanded Revan's myth and legend so much! I hate what SWTOR did to his character though.



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Eh not really. I might play it every now and then, but if it's the same as ME3 MP, it will get boring and I'll move on to something else. Like I said, I'd rather have actual coop integrated into the single player instead of just surviving waves of enemies over and over. Either way, we aren't getting dedicated hosts, so connectivity is going to be a gamble every match!

 

He's mine too! KotOR II is my favorite Star Wars game (besides SWG) partially because it expanded Revan's myth and legend so much! I hate what SWTOR did to his character though.

True enough, I haven't played kotor tbh but I have seen most of the cutscenes in game. Also lore from a couple books, wiki etc. It's a shame really that they brought him back so badly in SWTOR.

  Revan is both funny as well as classy, same with HK 47 who's way better than the silly c3po from the movies. It would be great if they'd made a movie with Revan since it has so much potential. There are a few fan films out there on Revan and one or two are somewhat decent but none on a professional scale.



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True enough, I haven't played kotor tbh but I have seen most of the cutscenes in game. Also lore from a couple books, wiki etc. It's a shame really that they brought him back so badly in SWTOR.

  Revan is both funny as well as classy, same with HK 47 who's way better than the silly c3po from the movies. It would be great if they'd made a movie with Revan since it has so much potential. There are a few fan films out there on Revan and one or two are somewhat decent but none on a professional scale.

I'd highly recommend KotOR 1 and KotOR 2! That's where Revan came from after all! Both are great RPGs and arguably some of the best RPGs ever made! That was back when BioWare was in its prime and doing amazing and innovative things. SWTOR just tried to milk his character too much and as a result ruined him.

 

HK-47 is great! He's more so based off of IG-88 than C3PO, but he makes KotOR 1 and KotOR 2 and absolute blast. He has some of the best dialogue. Unfortunately, since Disney retconned the entire EU, that means Revan isn't canon. Of course, Bane is since he was in the clone wars cartoon(another character Drew also created), and since Bane learned the Rule of Two from Revan's holocron, that means Revan must be canon (or pseudo canon) as a result!



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Topic says it all, is there any chance we get dedicated multiplayer servers? I'd even be willing to pay for one myself, if it spared me the atrocious player-hosting system.

Are dedicated servers still a thing these days? haven't played any multiplayer besides ME3 for like 5 to 10 years, so i wouldn't know. Do other EA games have them?


It would be nice for sure, maybe after the sweeping success of me3mp they'll think it's worth putting the resources into dedicated servers. Even if we don't I hope they have something where you can see a list of games and sort by ping or something, or even just fix up the net code a little. Basically even if they don't do anything I'll still enjoy it, but any improvements to eliminate lag and stuff would be really appreciated. Can't wait to take out some of whatever we'll be facing in meamp.
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Who said anything about multiplayer in MEA? I hated ME3's copy/paste multiplayer that was clearly a rip-off of Halo's Firefight, Gear's Horde, CoD's Zombies, etc.

I'd rather have coop than another boring ME3 MP that is nothing more than a tedious and redundant grind attempting to encourage people to spend money on silly microtransactions.


Cut and paste multiplayer? Like every cod game? Every pvp game? Deathmatch? Conquest? Capture the flag? Koth?

At least a co-op pve horde mode is not in virtually every AAA game out there

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I'd highly recommend KotOR 1 and KotOR 2! That's where Revan came from after all! Both are great RPGs and arguably some of the best RPGs ever made! That was back when BioWare was in its prime and doing amazing and innovative things. SWTOR just tried to milk his character too much and as a result ruined him.

 

HK-47 is great! He's more so based off of IG-88 than C3PO, but he makes KotOR 1 and KotOR 2 and absolute blast. He has some of the best dialogue. Unfortunately, since Disney retconned the entire EU, that means Revan isn't canon. Of course, Bane is since he was in the clone wars cartoon(another character Drew also created), and since Bane learned the Rule of Two from Revan's holocron, that means Revan must be canon (or pseudo canon) as a result!

Yes I know but I kinda spoiled the whole story for myself and I'm too lazy to play as there's so many new games that I haven't got to try yet and because I don't want to play an outdated game. Maybe someday! Agree with SWTOR, that whole drama was rather unnecessary!

 

I like HK's character and his terms like meatcans etc. He seemed to match Revan with his humor. As for the canonization, I know the Bane story but I'm not a fan of that! The Drew guy wrote that right? They really went in to space magic realms with the bane trilogy with the whole orbalisks, sith alchemy and sorcery and stuff. Also I don't really care about Disney's canonization what with the way they've done the cartoons. I don't even follow that but they really did Darth Maul to death in those cartoons from what little I saw! Not my cup of tea really. 



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Yes I know but I kinda spoiled the whole story for myself and I'm too lazy to play as there's so many new games that I haven't got to try yet and because I don't want to play an outdated game. Maybe someday! Agree with SWTOR, that whole drama was rather unnecessary!

 

I like HK's character and his terms like meatcans etc. He seemed to match Revan with his humor. As for the canonization, I know the Bane story but I'm not a fan of that! The Drew guy wrote that right? They really went in to space magic realms with the bane trilogy with the whole orbalisks, sith alchemy and sorcery and stuff. Also I don't really care about Disney's canonization what with the way they've done the cartoons. I don't even follow that but they really did Darth Maul to death in those cartoons from what little I saw! Not my cup of tea really. 

Surprisingly, the games have actually held up pretty well. KotOR 1 and KotOR 2 definitely look dated, but the gameplay is still solid and a lot of fun. I just recently beat KotOR 2 about a month or so ago.

 

Yep. Meatbags! HK-47 first used that phrase against Malak because he thought Malak was a coward! HK and Revan have a really rich history and it's explored somewhat in the games. Drew wrote Revan and Bane. I actually don't care for most of the expanded universe stuff, just the KotOR period that BioWare created.



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Surprisingly, the games have actually held up pretty well. KotOR 1 and KotOR 2 definitely look dated, but the gameplay is still solid and a lot of fun. I just recently beat KotOR 2 about a month or so ago.

 

Yep. Meatbags! HK-47 first used that phrase against Malak because he thought Malak was a coward! HK and Revan have a really rich history and it's explored somewhat in the games. Drew wrote Revan and Bane. I actually don't care for most of the expanded universe stuff, just the KotOR period that BioWare created.

 

HK-47?  Now that is someone right up my ally.  Does he pay as much for his PCs as he does his guns?  That's his name on the site?  The 308 in my name is for that reason.

 

I haven't been following this thread.  I just read this last post as I always click the "view newest content" tab.  If I am out of left field just ignore me.



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Who said anything about multiplayer in MEA? I hated ME3's copy/paste multiplayer that was clearly a rip-off of Halo's Firefight, Gear's Horde, CoD's Zombies, etc.

 

I'd rather have coop than another boring ME3 MP that is nothing more than a tedious and redundant grind attempting to encourage people to spend money on silly microtransactions.

That's fine too, just isn't for you then.

 

You'd be a fool however to think Bioware isn't going to iterate on their multiplayer mode in a similar fashion when the ME3 one still has a sizeable playerbase about 4 years later.



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HK-47?  Now that is someone right up my ally.  Does he pay as much for his PCs as he does his guns?  That's his name on the site?  The 308 in my name is for that reason.

 

I haven't been following this thread.  I just read this last post as I always click the "view newest content" tab.  If I am out of left field just ignore me.

Wrong HK I think, but I like the HK compact 45 though, that is one sweet looking pew pew.



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it used to be the norm 20 years ago. then someone had the idea it would be much cheaper for game developers if one of the players hosts the game on his PC, thus bypassing the need for a central host server. Now this wouldn't necessarily be a problem if you played with people from the same country, but if you live in central europe and your host sits in...lets say australia or hawaii, it's not a particularly satisfying experience.

judging by my experience with ME3, I have to assume that a significant portion of the playerbase either connects to the internet via smoke signals, or they must be located somewhere in an orbit around saturn.

Not that I understand any of that stuff too well, but yeah, that's sounds like garbage.



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Wrong HK I think, but I like the HK compact 45 though, that is one sweet looking pew pew.

 

He even took it a step further with 47.   Hk 416/417 the HK .223 and .308 ARs.  I've never heard the "official" answer, but it was either a Colt 6920 or a 417 that got the job done on Bin Laden.

 

HK is crazy over priced, but you got that right it is one sweet looking pew pew.  I love that thing.

 

I would say HK and the 1911 are the top 2 in the sexiest handguns ever.

 

That Para 14.45 Limited is....... :wub:

 

Para-Ordnance-PXT-S14-45-Limited.jpg

 

But HK is right there with them and of course the quality


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He even took it a step further with 47.   Hk 416/417 the HK .223 and .308 ARs.  I've never heard the "official" answer, but it was either a Colt 6920 or a 417 that got the job done on Bin Laden.

 

HK is crazy over priced, but you got that right it is one sweet looking pew pew.  I love that thing.

 

I would say HK and the 1911 are the top 2 in the sexiest handguns ever.

 

That Para 14.45 Limited is....... :wub:

 

Para-Ordnance-PXT-S14-45-Limited.jpg

 

But HK is right there with them and of course the quality

I like the HK 45 Compact the most, the underbarrel laser is a nice addition to have as well.  

 

Don't forget the S&W and Taurus revolvers. Lot of old school charm for those. Also I like the way the Sig P226 looks. Fast 9mm with a large capacity mag is great.

 

Also legit question on Mass Effect but I'd like them to remove the weapon swap delay when switching to your sidearm. Like when you're out of ammo and wanna finish an enemy off, I'd like the swap to be very fast like normal shooters rather than taking half a minute like in mass effect where Shepard carefully folds and puts away his rifle and then unfolds his pistol like an idiot in the middle of the firefight. Don't they have gun straps in the future? Also it'd give the side arms more reason to be used frequently.



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My point is... do something original for once. That would be nice. If I wanted to play a generic knockoff, there are already plenty of other games that offer that feature.

Name one original game released in last 5 years. Just one. You might find some indie game, but I very much doubt that there is any AAA title that comes even close to original.

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I've heard of that one guy who spent... 500 dollars to max his manifest?

I'd tell you how much I've spent on ME3MP, but some people would call me gullible and dumb and whatnot, then I'd have to tell them something very rude and we don't want that, do we?

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Name one original game released in last 5 years. Just one. You might find some indie game, but I very much doubt that there is any AAA title that comes even close to original.

Watch_Dogs.

 

*Boom*

 

Mind blown.



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Watch_Dogs.
 
*Boom*
 
Mind blown.


So your prime example for an original game is this 21st-century assassins creed knock-off, that is widely considered to be one of the worst games in recent history? That piece of garbage that is most famous for it's abysmal execution and the failed attempt to create unique selling point by shoehorning in some new gameplay features?

No thanks, I'd rather not have that kind of "innovation" in MEA.

I mean it's not like there aren't any innovative games, but if i had to chose one that stands out, i'd go for a game that is actually good, like portal 2 or stanley parable. But if bioware needs to take their cues from other developers, then they need look no further than deus ex. after all, that's the game that inspired mass effect in the first place. and in terms of combat and level design mass effect can still lern a lot from human revolution and probably even more so from the next installment.

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So your prime example for an original game is this 21st-century assassins creed knock-off, that is widely considered to be one of the worst games in recent history? That piece of garbage that is most famous for it's abysmal execution and the failed attempt to create unique selling point by shoehorning in some new gameplay features?

No thanks, I'd rather not have that kind of "innovation" in MEA.

I mean it's not like there aren't any innovative games, but if i had to chose one that stands out, i'd go for a game that is actually good, like portal 2 or stanley parable. But if bioware needs to take their cues from other developers, then they need look no further than deus ex. after all, that's the game that inspired mass effect in the first place. and in terms of combat and level design mass effect can still lern a lot from human revolution and probably even more so from the next installment.

I take it you've never played Watch_Dogs? It has absolutely nothing in common with Assassin's Creed, other than being published by Ubisoft, Nice try though.

 

Worst games in recent history? Did you see it's metascore? Did you see how well it sold? There is already a sequel planned. I'm not sure what rock you have been living under, but you clearly are out of touch with reality. The game was certainly scandalized for it's visual downgrade and there was criticism thrown at its protagonist, but nobody hated the game. On the contrary, the entire hacking gameplay completely revolutionized the way one engages in an open world. By the way, it's the hacking aspect that makes it original in case you didn't know, since you don't seem to know anything about the game.

 

How was Portal 2 innovative? It was a sequel to Portal 1, which is just a puzzle solving game. Deus Ex? BioWare should really take cues from Square Enix of all developers? Who's the one talking crazy talk now? As far as what "inspired mass effect," it may have been one of various influences, but the main game that inspired Mass Effect was Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. That game was literally the foundation for everything BioWare decided to incorporate into ME1.

 

I'm not sure why you think a first person stealth RPG really has anything in common with Mass Effect. I definitely don't see any parallels besides some similar story elements. A much better game that would actually make sense was the cancelled Star Wars: 1313:

 

 

There is far more from this little tech demo that BioWare could learn about where to take MEA next than a first person stealth game. Enjoy.



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Name one original game released in last 5 years. Just one. You might find some indie game, but I very much doubt that there is any AAA title that comes even close to original.

Evolve



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I can probably count the number of times I've been kicked on one hand, also across three accounts. Two of those accounts are N7 120 or lower.

 

I'll kick you.  <3


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