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Only in Hinterlands, but game is so dark


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I never though DA was a dark series, but jesus only in first area and already had an NPC tell me they saw a Templar about to rape the body of a burned woman (not sure if she was a mage or a normal person) before the NPC killed him. Then met some Elf named Mehris I think, she asked me for help, helped her, then killed her and took whatever she had.

 

I mean...I am the Herald of Andraste, so I can do whatever I need to, to save the world right?



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Did you find my druffalo for me yet?

 

DA:I has some dark elements, but I think the Hinterlands was too bright and cheerful.


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Did you find my druffalo for me yet?

 

DA:I has some dark elements, but I think the Hinterlands was too bright and cheerful.

 

But beware the ram!!!!11!!1 'Tis evil! Evil, I tell you!


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I never found the need to kill Mehris because if you ask she will give you the Elven trinket. Solas or the Dalish Inquisitor can ask.

 

And no as the Inquisitor you need to be understanding in your dealings since everybody is watching.

 

And there's no need to be kill crazy just kill the baddies and that should fill any killing needs. 



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But my character is supposed to hate the inquisition and their gods and anything else. I am only helping because I dont want to be executed.


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I remember that codex. It made me tear up the first time I read it.

The game is pretty dark in spots, but you can do quite a bit to set things right. And you'll have some laughs as well.
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I never found the need to kill Mehris because if you ask she will give you the Elven trinket. Solas or the Dalish Inquisitor can ask.

 

And no as the Inquisitor you need to be understanding in your dealings since everybody is watching.

 

And there's no need to be kill crazy just kill the baddies and that should fill any killing needs. 

 

Any player character with the Arcane Knowledge perk can ask her for it and she will give it to them, though most players don't have that perk yet.
 



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I never though DA was a dark series, but jesus only in first area and already had an NPC tell me they saw a Templar about to rape the body of a burned woman (not sure if she was a mage or a normal person) before the NPC killed him. Then met some Elf named Mehris I think, she asked me for help, helped her, then killed her and took whatever she had.

 

I mean...I am the Herald of Andraste, so I can do whatever I need to, to save the world right?

 

My IQs never had to kill Mihris. So your IQ is the one causing more darkness and heartache.  :angry:


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You'll find that there are very few options to play as a dark/evil character.


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But my character is supposed to hate the inquisition and their gods and anything else. I am only helping because I dont want to be executed.

 

Sounds like by role-playing it that way, you yourself are pushing things in a darker direction.  As you select what your IQ is going to say, you should try to anticipate how others will react.  You may want to have your IQ to be non-religious, but that doesn't mean being disrespectful of religion especially given your character's circumstances.  Your IQ should want to have people rally around him/her.


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Well my rogue is just like idgaf, and if I do its because there is something in it for me. My mage is like, I want to stop the Mages because I want people to like mages and not be afraid of them, and I also want to make it safer for Mages to live in the world. Weird part is I joined the Mages side with my rogue, and Templar side with my Mage. Just to make it more interesting. Not sure how that plays out, but excited to see.

 

Weird thing is I have never RPed in a game before, but I am enjoying it a ton in this game. The only place where I kind of dont RP is when I am getting followers/companions because I want to get everyone.



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I was about to say. You're talking about how dark it is as if it's the game itself but you're the one choosing dark options. So no, the game itself isn't dark.


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I was about to say. You're talking about how dark it is as if it's the game itself but you're the one choosing dark options. So no, the game itself isn't dark.

 Allow me to quote: The crows and Queen Madrigal

 

The first crow refused to speak, even when we put hot coals to the soles of his feet and peeled the skin off his face and hands with a paring knife. He opted instead to chew through his own tongue and choke to death on the blood...

 

Yeah dude totally not dark at all. This game is dark as F!



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 Allow me to quote: The crows and Queen Madrigal

 

The first crow refused to speak, even when we put hot coals to the soles of his feet and peeled the skin off his face and hands with a paring knife. He opted instead to chew through his own tongue and choke to death on the blood...

 

Yeah dude totally not dark at all. This game is dark as F!

LoL , someone didn't play witcher or didn't saw TWD just because Inquistion has few dark codex entries and some mildly dark elments doesn't mean it is dark. Pretty much even when compared to dao or da 2 Dai drops dead in that regard, all you need to look and compare how they handled mage issue in these three games.


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Yeah I havent played any of those games. This is my first time playing a game like this. I dont know what it would be classified as, RPG I guess.



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I think the videogame industry in general has made gamers' expectations of darkness waaaaayyy too ridiculous.

 

I think DA:I, being a *tad less dark* than the other installments in the series, was perfect in terms of darkness.

 

I'm sorry. I'm as heathen and angsty as f*ck but I don't think that spraying intestines and chopping off breasts and covering the walls with tumors is the key to narrative maturity. You want to get me emotionally invested? You want me to cry? You want me to face all my darkest fears? Learn to show, not tell. Instead of horrible graphic displays of mutilation and rape, why don't you just watch a Hitchcock film an imply it? Not only do you make things more intense by allowing a greater share of situations to be played out in the audience's imaginations (because there is nothing more dark than what the human imagination can conjure), you maintain our sensitivity to dark situations instead of raping our senses with explicit scenes that try to sex up the shock value every chance you get.

 

I'm not a Christian mommy. I'm really not. I love darkness. But I think it's stupid and absurd that gamers continue to demand cheap displays of violence, thinking that this is what darkness is about - that this is the true potential of exploring the human condition in the medium we call games.


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Did you find my druffalo for me yet?

 

DA:I has some dark elements, but I think the Hinterlands was too bright and cheerful.

Did you find my ten bundles of Elf root yet? *says the lady in lothering* 


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I think the videogame industry in general has made gamers' expectations of darkness waaaaayyy too ridiculous.

 

I think DA:I, being a *tad less dark* than the other installments in the series, was perfect in terms of darkness.

 

I'm sorry. I'm as heathen and angsty as f*ck but I don't think that spraying intestines and chopping off breasts and covering the walls with tumors is the key to narrative maturity. You want to get me emotionally invested? You want me to cry? You want me to face all my darkest fears? Learn to show, not tell. Instead of horrible graphic displays of mutilation and rape, why don't you just watch a Hitchcock film an imply it? Not only do you make things more intense by allowing a greater share of situations to be played out in the audience's imaginations (because there is nothing more dark than what the human imagination can conjure), you maintain our sensitivity to dark situations instead of raping our senses with explicit scenes that try to sex up the shock value every chance you get.

 

I'm not a Christian mommy. I'm really not. I love darkness. But I think it's stupid and absurd that gamers continue to demand cheap displays of violence, thinking that this is what darkness is about - that this is the true potential of exploring the human condition in the medium we call games.

 

DAI was mature dark? Don't even make me laugh, it mostly ignored drarker aspects of human nature to the comical degree, to the point DAI tries to sell message that freedom will solve every problem and power of love will remove over a thousand years of justified fear and hate toward mages pretty much instantly.Hell even Inquistor and Corypheus portrayal is white vs black , you are good guy and he is bad guy. DAI was no darker than Mass Effect heavily idealistic series, hardly can be considered dark otherwise almost all other RPG would qualify as dark just because they have it's darker moments .  


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DAI was mature dark? Don't even make me laugh, it mostly ignored drarker aspects of human nature to the comical degree, to the point DAI tries to sell message that freedom will solve every problem and power of love will remove over a thousand years of justified fear and hate toward mages pretty much instantly.Hell even Inquistor and Corypheus portrayal is white vs black , you are good guy and he is bad guy. DAI was no darker than Mass Effect heavily idealistic series, hardly can be considered dark otherwise almost all other RPG would qualify as dark just because they have it's darker moments .

Merely just seeing you reply angers me. Immediately.

Also aren't you the one who usually defended DAI while I trashed it? I agree with what you're saying here actually. What I really meant when I said "perfect darkness" is that making it more gratuitous would not automatically make it better like a lot of people think.

I don't think lack of rape and blood should be the area of concern in the game, surprisingly.

As for comical good vs. evil, that's just a matter of writing.
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I never though DA was a dark 

It is not dark if you increase the screen brightness


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Dude, Origins was WAY darker.

They seriously took out the dark to get this franchise to appeal to more players.

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Dude, Origins was WAY darker.

They seriously took out the dark to get this franchise to appeal to more players.

It's not a frikken competition, chill.


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Merely just seeing you reply angers me. Immediately.

Also aren't you the one who usually defended DAI while I trashed it? I agree with what you're saying here actually. What I really meant when I said "perfect darkness" is that making it more gratuitous would not automatically make it better like a lot of people think.

I don't think lack of rape and blood should be the area of concern in the game, surprisingly.

As for comical good vs. evil, that's just a matter of writing.

 

Good, good give in to your anger . :devil:

 

That i "defend" something/soemone when it comes to certain matter doesn't mean i will do that when we face another issue. It would make it better as it would be consistent with rest of the setting that is fairly dark, instead DAI is inconsistent and illogical toward rest of series , ignoring serious problems that always existed in this setting.

 

Rape and blood are one part of issue and as above should be part of darker series, but also issues like mages freedom that was said and shown multiple times to come at tremendous costs in this series in DAI comes at no cost whatsoever, what is just bad writing. 



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Dude, Origins was WAY darker.

 

Especially those fleshy balloons attached here and there to the walls or the floors of most dungeons.....these are the dark elements  that DAI lacks!



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what is just bad writing. 

I Agree TheKomandor is a bad writing!