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Make Leliana a killable npc in DAO, who is the writer who did  this folly?

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Nah the mistake was letting her come back in DAI instead of having someone new and exciting. 


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Nah the mistake was letting her come back in DAI instead of having someone new and exiting.

True, I did like her quest in DAI though, when she doesn't go all homicidey on me.

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Make Leliana a killable npc in DAO, who is the writer who did  this folly?

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Why not? You can kill pretty much every other companion in the party.

 

In fact, let's count the ways. If you're not a noble you can kill Dog at Ostagar, have Alistair executed near the end of the game, leave Sten to die in a cage, kill Wynne at the Circle or after defiling the Ashes, kill Zevran in his sleep right after he ambushes you (and then again if his approval drops enough when he tries to leave, and then again in Denerim when Taliesin attacks), kill Shale if you side against Cairiden, and in Witch Hunt you can (try to) kill Morrigan in front of the Eluvian.

 

What makes Leliana so dang special that she alone is the companion we shouldn't get to take a crack at?

 

Not that it matters, she always comes back in DA2 and DAI. Author's darlings never stay down for long.


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Make Leliana a killable npc in DAO, who is the writer who did  this folly?
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Mary Sues

 

 

Can we retire this frequently misused and ultimately unhelpful term?


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What makes Leliana so dang special that she alone is the companion we shouldn't get to take a crack at?

 

 

She is immortal like Oghren!



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The gods of making Mary Sues, apperately.

 

Spoken by the Cousland fangirl.

 

She is immortal like Oghren!

 

Apparently not. In Trespasser, if certain conditions are met, it's revealed that the Leliana who appears in DA2 and DAI in a worldstate where the Warden killed her was actually a Fade spirit that impersonated her all these games. (Much like the Spirit of Compassion to Cole.)


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Can we retire this frequently misused and ultimately unhelpful term?

 

People can just use Mary Stu.


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IMHO the only mistake B-W made was DA:2. I'm sorry I bought it but,it is number two in the series.

 

Leliana is ok and alive and well in my games.



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Make Leliana a killable npc in DAO, who is the writer who did  this folly?

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No, that's not Bioware biggest mistake, the whole DA2 is the biggest mistake and then followed by DA:I


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No, that's not Bioware biggest mistake, the whole DA2 is the biggest mistake and then followed by DA:I

 

Then, why are you here?



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Then, why are you here?

 

To post that comment

 

Why are you asking?



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Why not? You can kill pretty much every other companion in the party.

 and in Witch Hunt you can (try to) kill Morrigan in front of the Eluvian.

 

What makes Leliana so dang special that she alone is the companion we shouldn't get to take a crack at?

 

Not that it matters, she always comes back in DA2 and DAI. Author's darlings never stay down for long.

Try to kill is not kill is a fail...what makes Morrigan  so special?

Oghren is immortal too until DAA

Sten don't die.....

this is not fair either they allow the player to kill them all if there is a reason (and as far as i'm concerned there is always a reason,maybe not so much with Oghren...) or none of them stop with this favouritism



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Spoken by the Cousland fangirl.


I have a question. What do you think of Trevelyan in DAI?

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They weren't even sure how successful DAO would be.. so I'd chalk it up to that mostly. They probably realized they could make more use of their stuff.

 

Things happen. It's not ideal, but I can't believe people remain embittered. It's been like  4 or 5 years since DA2 came out. And it's not like people killed her en masse. She's apparently the most romanced character, according to stats. And a lot of people don't like choosing the Reaver side. Yet this is still talked about like some great offense to everyone. I have my doubts. :P


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Straykat.I think its much deeper then that.. The more I play DA:O the more flaws I find in the story line. Apparently the writers was unable to stay focus on their work or perhaps they was worried more about  being Political Correct  instead of writing a story. 

 

IF DA:4 suffers the same flaws as DA:O and DA:I  then it will be the last DA game I buy. :(  I won't judge DA:2 simply because I can not stay interested in it. A complete waste of money.



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They weren't even sure how successful DAO would be.. so I'd chalk it up to that mostly. They probably realized they could make more use of their stuff.

 

Things happen. It's not ideal, but I can't believe people remain embittered. It's been like  4 or 5 years since DA2 came out. And it's not like people killed her en masse. She's apparently the most romanced character, according to stats. And a lot of people don't like choosing the Reaver side. Yet this is still talked about like some great offense to everyone. I have my doubts. :P

Well not really anything new, people are still bitching about small things like these and DA:II aswell, and the Mass Effect 3 ending. I guess its to much to just stop living in the past and accept that what is there is there, and either find enjoyment from it or stop complaining about it. 



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I have a question. What do you think of Trevelyan in DAI?

Don't start with her.



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Don't start with her.


Yeah, I know, but I didn't really know how to reply to that post so I responded with sarcasm....

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I think they provided a reasonable explanation for Leliana's survival in Trespasser.

 

In fact, I think a lot of people were over zealous in their condemnation of her survival in the first place, considering the exact location in which you left her body. That place was brimming with spirits, Oghren said the Montain was practically full of lyrium, and an ancient immortal knight stood guard there for century upon century. There's conceivably several ways they might have accounted for her being revived. 


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I think they provided a reasonable explanation for Leliana's survival in Trespasser.

 

In fact, I think a lot of people were over zealous in their condemnation of her survival in the first place, considering the exact location in which you left her body. That place was brimming with spirits, Oghren said the Montain was practically full of lyrium, and an ancient immortal knight stood guard there for century upon century. There's conceivably several ways they might have accounted for her being revived. 

 

If that happens, I think maybe even the knight is a part of her.. or something like him. I don't think you can truly kill him directly.. maybe his last move was to revive her.. He would have cared for her at least.

 

Anyways, I have my complaints about various things in the series.. but this one could use a rest imho. And hopefully we'll all be more satisfied in the next game.



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Straykat,Try not to be to surprise if Leliana  and Morrigan shows up in DA:4. I've got a gut feeling those two will fight and one will die.

 

As far as Leliana's survival she never dies in my games.. I think the ones that is upset the most is those who kill her in DA:O. Look how upset they become when some wants the HoF to return simply because they choose to kill  their warden. Look how upset many become because many of us  decides to do Morrigan's DR and kill that asp of a man Loghain.

 

In the end they forget the main thing.. Its a game period and we choose our endings to suit us and find no reason to kill Leliana.


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