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[ShadyKat]

Something like this as a new LI please
 

 

 

Looks basically like an asari.

[Fallen_silver]

I would like to see not just new aliens but also new ways of the current racing acting. So for example, a bloodthirsty Salarians, or diplomatic krogan even I would love to see Asari who can't use biotics and hates biotics. Even the unseen races would be cool to see; Raloi, Arthenn, Densorin and etc. I don't want to just see humans, Krogans, Salarians and so forth.     

[KamuiStorm]

Looks basically like an asari.

whatever that is, my body is ready

[Midnight Bliss]

Another MEA LI

 

 

 

 

[LightningPoodle]

I'm definitely up for plant people, but what's "gritty" about Groot? And the last time BioWare went "gritty" we got a series of dark corridors and a crew of daddy-issue-havin' betas.

 

Like, edgier. More "alien" than just a reskinned human being. Sorry, I couldn't think of a word that said that better.

[NKnight7]

Anybody?

 

Spoiler

 

As long as it dances.

 

[Midnight Bliss]

Last MEA female alien LI.

 

This is when you first meet her.

 

 

 

 

And she morphs into her true form for the sex scene,

[Scarlett]

I love to see Farscape ref here

 

Looks basically like an asari.

 

Comparing poor Natira to an asari. How rude...

 

 

More a spider to me

[Midnight Bliss]

 

[Scarlett]

Weird enough, I always thought that Legion had similarities with Xenomorphs .... the head maybe ... ?

Anyways, for Xenomorphs, I'll pass ~They are my childhood nightmares...

 

But yeah for Predators  !

[Midnight Bliss]

Alien Male LI

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weird enough, I always thought that Legion had similarities with Xenomorphs .... the head maybe ... ?

Anyways, for Xenomorphs, I'll pass ~They are my childhood nightmares...

 

But yeah for Predators  !

Yeah, Legion has a subliminal H.R. Giger look to him when I think about it. Probably a coincidence but still.

[Revan Reborn]

Yeah I think this guy is pretty hot myself.

[Khrystyn]

Maybe something that doesn't even have legs or arms.

 

Without arms or legs, you are reduced to using your vocal chords. You might have to hurl insults to defeat/discourage your existential foes!

 

 

Either this, or use Worf's Klingon 'guile.'

[Khrystyn]

Last MEA female alien LI. This is when you first meet her. And she morphs into her true form for the sex scene,

 
 
Natasha Henstridge in Species (1995). I was just going to post a picture like this one to add to the "I've seen that before" discussion.
 
Edit: Natasha's younger beautiful face and physique would be a great base model for the femme protag; Her voice is, I think, very appropriate for VO work. Custom character alterations? Anything else would be sacrilege.

I know this thread is about ideas for new aliens. When I saw Natasha's pic posted above, I had to comment about her.

[RawBeard]

I'd like a low-tech Barbarian/Viking race that looks like a humanoid Bison, a bit like Krogan in size/build. They prefer living on their dusty dry planet in their clans and keeping their ancient traditions alive. In my vision they haven't quite joined the space exploring races and try to avoid advanced tech as much as possible however due to recent invasions/attacks they have nominated 3 warriors from different clans to represent them in the council.

[pkypereira]

Yeah I think this guy is pretty hot myself.

 

 

 

looks like Jabba the Hut's cousin

[Whitevox]

Here, some ideas Create some epic creatures. There was incredible moment where we were talking with a giant Leviatan.

 

Alien with a body builded from the pure energy.

 

Alien from a planet with red forests and plants

 

Inteligent alien. Talking by telepathy

 

Alien from the "water planet". With a view lands but very wet and full of green. But mainly with life underwater.

 

Ancient civilisation

 

And some uninteligent breed

[CrutchCricket]

Blindsight was an excellent science fiction exploration of the concepts of intelligences vs. consciousness as well as being one of the few narratives I've seen (though I will admit to not having a huge library of experience) to depict an 'alien' intelligence without resorting to the whole "Beyond our comprehension" copout either. I would like to see BioWare look towards concepts like this when creating new aliens for Mass Effect: Andromeda:

Spoiler

Imagine you're a scrambler.

Imagine you have intellect but no insight, agendas but no awareness. Your circuitry hums with strategies for survival and persistence, flexible, intelligent, even technological - but no other circuitry monitors it. You can think of anything, yet are conscious of nothing.

You can't imagine such a being can you? The term being doesn't even seem to apply, in some fundamental way you can't quite put your finger on.

Try.

Imagine that you encounter a signal. It is structured, and dense with information. It meets all the criteria of an intelligent transmission. Evolution and experience offer a variety of paths to follow, branch-points in the flowcharts that handle such input. Sometimes these signals come from conspecifics who have useful information to share, whose lives you'll defend according to the rules of kin selection. Sometimes they come from competitors or predators or other inimical entities that must be avoided or destroyed; in those cases, the information may prove of significant tactical value. Some signals may even arise from entities which, while not kin, can still serve as allies or symbionts in mutually beneficial pursuits. You can derive appropriate responses for any of these eventualities, and many others.

You decode the signals, and stumble:

I had a great time. I really enjoyed him. Even if he cost twice as much as any other hooker in the dome-

To fully appreciate Kesey's Quartet-

They hate us for our freedom-

Pay attention now-

Understand.

There are no meaningful translations for these terms. They are needlessly recursive. They contain no usable intelligence, yet they are structured intelligently; there is no chance they could have arisen by chance.

The only explanation is that something has coded nonsense in a way that poses as a useful message; only after wasting time and effort does the deception become apparent. The signal functions to consume the resources of a recipient for zero payoff and reduced fitness. The signal is a virus.

Viruses do not arise from kin, symbionts, or other allies.

The signal is an attack.

And it's coming from right about there.

*

"Now you get it," Sascha said.

I shook my head, trying to wrap it around that insane, impossible conclusion. "They're not even hostile." Not even capable of hostility. Just so profoundly alien that they couldn't help but treat human language itself as a form of combat.

How do you say We come in peace when the very words are an act of war?

Interesting. We usually have the similar ideas about these things. But I don't think "beyond our comprehension" is a copout. Even in the example you posted, the point is we can't imagine such a being, or anything about how might act or think no matter how much we try, because it's so fundamentally different from us. And if this creature has no awareness, I assume that includes self-awareness, in which case how does the concept of a "threat" make any sense? Or indeed the concept of kin, of "like me" or "not like me" when "me" itself is not supported?
 
What follows also assumes too much similarity in how audio or radio waves would be perceived and understood, how the creature could live in an ecosystem similar to those on Earth, with predators, prey symbiotic relationships etc. None of these are given, and it is far more likely that none of it would correlate.
 
Of course that doesn't mean that all our fiction has to be rubber forehead aliens.  We're on the same page about wanting more "alien" aliens.
 

Weird enough, I always thought that Legion had similarities with Xenomorphs .... the head maybe ... ?
Anyways, for Xenomorphs, I'll pass ~They are my childhood nightmares...
 
But yeah for Predators  !

Want some candy?
 

 

Here, some ideas Create some epic creatures. There was incredible moment where we were talking with a giant Leviatan.
 
Alien with a body builded from the pure energy.

POWER OVERWHELMING!

I like your images though. I'd like to see some similar stuff as well. Or perhaps something like these fellows:

 

 

[Kabooooom]

I dont have much to add, except to take inspiration from real-life speculative xenobiology to make the most realistic life possible. Weird is fine and good, as long as it makes some degree of sense.

Also, moar bioluminescence.

[Kierro Ren]

Anybody?

 

Spoiler

 

Ok

Spoiler

I'll see your Spaceballs Xeno and John Hurt, and I'll raise you--

 

                            A John Candy Barfo Mog.

[Kierro Ren]

 

Wow... I would love to see something like this. Small or big, either would be amazing.

[Vortex13]

Interesting. We usually have the similar ideas about these things. But I don't think "beyond our comprehension" is a copout. Even in the example you posted, the point is we can't imagine such a being, or anything about how might act or think no matter how much we try, because it's so fundamentally different from us. And if this creature has no awareness, I assume that includes self-awareness, in which case how does the concept of a "threat" make any sense? Or indeed the concept of kin, of "like me" or "not like me" when "me" itself is not supported?
 
What follows also assumes too much similarity in how audio or radio waves would be perceived and understood, how the creature could live in an ecosystem similar to those on Earth, with predators, prey symbiotic relationships etc. None of these are given, and it is far more likely that none of it would correlate.
 
Of course that doesn't mean that all our fiction has to be rubber forehead aliens.  We're on the same page about wanting more "alien" aliens.

 

 

Well the rest of book does go into more detail on how the scramblers operate, and helps provide a lot more context to their motivations.

 

 

And sorry, I should have clarified more. It's not so much that the 'beyond your comprehension' trope is a copout, so much as the reliance of that nomenclature to act as a catch-all for anything and everything. For example, look at the Reapers, the writers really liked to play up the whole "We are beyond your comprehension Shepard" bit when in reality they were actually very comparable to our understanding; and depending on who you ask, had a very moronic reason behind their existence. The difference between the Reapers and the Scramblers of Blindsight, is that the scramblers are beyond our comprehension (like you said), or at least so alien to our way of, well practically everything that they might as well be. The writing of that novel explores and shows how and why they are so foreign to us, the Reapers' whole shtick in ME's writing was: "Beyond your comprehension. Such mystery.  Much Depth."

[CrutchCricket]

And sorry, I should have clarified more. It's not so much that the 'beyond your comprehension' trope is a copout, so much as the reliance of that nomenclature to act as a catch-all for anything and everything. For example, look at the Reapers, the writers really liked to play up the whole "We are beyond your comprehension Shepard" bit when in reality they were actually very comparable to our understanding; and depending on who you ask, had a very moronic reason behind their existence. The difference between the Reapers and the Scramblers of Blindsight, is that the scramblers are beyond our comprehension (like you said), or at least so alien to our way of, well practically everything that they might as well be. The writing of that novel explores and shows how and why they are so foreign to us, the Reapers' whole shtick in ME's writing was: "Beyond your comprehension. Such mystery.  Much Depth."

To be fair, that failure was all on ME3 and its "yo dawg" logic. Or really on the writers afters ME2 because it seems they always wanted to make the Reapers misunderstood saviors of some kind. But as initially presented in ME1, the Reapers really should've been beyond our comprehension. I've linked to this post so many times I probably owe the author royalties, but here's a speculation on the processing power of a Reaper. There's just no way we're comprehending that.

 

Clearly the trope can be used as a copout and that does happen when it turns out it was really a "motivations TBD" placeholder like in Mass Effect. I was just pointing out it doesn't have to be. Whether it is a copout or not has more to do with writer intent than the features of the trope itself.

[Halfdan The Menace]

Here, some ideas Create some epic creatures. There was incredible moment where we were talking with a giant Leviatan.
 
 
Ancient civilisation

Interesting, must be full of weird stuff having a conversation with this alien babe.

[Revan Reborn]

looks like Jabba the Hut's cousin

You aren't too far off considering this is Pizza the Hutt from Spaceballs.