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Snopes has debunked the whole "Blondes are going extinct" rumors. The World Health Organization has said they've never done a study regarding "blonde extinction." Someone started a hoax, and major media started running with it. The WHO said that the journalists never bothered to contact them to verify the information, or that the study even existed. This was debunked by the WHO back in 2004, but despite that it became a commonly accepted fact.

http://www.snopes.co...ats/blondes.asp

This "study" doesn't exist. If folks insist on "realism," then they should check out the factoid for themselves. A factoid isn't a fact, it's something that sounds like it could be true. It's all goes back to the ME lore. The ME team could easily claim that, since Shepard's lifetime, the assumption that blondes were going extinct was proven false.
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A correct use of "factoid" on the internet!? :o


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The thread has come full circle now. Again.

 

In another 10 pages we'll start all over again with genetics, false studies and racism accusations.

 

BSN at its finest.


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The first articles that predicted the extinction of blondes within a hundred years was from 1865. Blondes may be rare, but here it is, over 150 years later, and blondes are still around.

If anything, the BSN seems to be a microcosm of human nature in general. IMHO, most people want to believe bad/scary news over good news. It's true on the BSN, and I found it to be pretty true in life.
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The thread has come full circle now. Again.
 
In another 10 pages we'll start all over again with genetics, false studies and racism accusations.
 
BSN at its finest.


I'm offensive and I find this a circle.
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The first articles that predicted the extinction of blondes within a hundred years was from 1865. Blondes may be rare, but here it is, over 150 years later, and blondes are still around.

If anything, the BSN seems to be a microcosm of human nature in general. IMHO, most people want to believe bad/scary news over good news. It's true on the BSN, and I found it to be pretty true in life.

 

Except when they don't want to believe it and instead live in denial, because otherwise they might have to do something. ;)


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The first articles that predicted the extinction of blondes within a hundred years was from 1865. Blondes may be rare, but here it is, over 150 years later, and blondes are still around.

If anything, the BSN seems to be a microcosm of human nature in general. IMHO, most people want to believe bad/scary news over good news. It's true on the BSN, and I found it to be pretty true in life.

 

You should know better than to take "scientific articles" at face value, especially the ones you see in most magazines or casual news/ written material.  Remember the whole 2012 mayan calender ordeal, or all the conspiracy theories floating around. It's just human nature to shift their attention to the more flashy stuff, which a lot of times tends to be the bad/scary news. Which just means that you shouldn't believe everything you hear, especially so on the internets. 


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You should know better than to take "scientific articles" at face value, especially the ones you see in most magazines or casual news/ written material.  Remember the whole 2012 mayan calender ordeal, or all the conspiracy theories floating around. It's just human nature to shift their attention to the more flashy stuff, which a lot of times tends to be the bad/scary news. Which just means that you shouldn't believe everything you hear, especially so on the internets.



Er, I hope you mean "you" as a general term. I completely agree with you on this. ;)
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Er, I hope you mean "you" as a general term. I completely agree with you on this. ;)

Yup I did  :)


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It was something that I remember from the first novel which I felt stupid anyway... as if a darker tan would fool DNA scans.

 

Honestly, I expected the more space-worthy we are, the less tendency for our gene to favor darker pigments and adapt to sun exposure. Besides it will take many generations before humanity's features to became homogenized... 2100s is still too early for these to happen. 

And I'm not sure blue and blonde genes would be watered down. I'm a brown Asian with supposedly dominant dark-hair dark-eyes and tanned features... and yet I have blue eyed half-asian cousins and they got married and I have nieces who are also blue-eyed and blonde... genes are weird...

 

I'd be more concerned about what zero gravity would do. That's a constant. The Sun/Suns wouldn't be. And besides, it'd take a helluva lot longer than a couple of hundred years for radical gene changes.

 

I know blue eyes can show up.. and light hair as well. I'm just saying they're recessive. That's just a simple fact.



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Why does hair dye not exist in the future? Or omnigel infused perma-contacts thst change your eye color at will? 

 

We can have for example Blue, Green, Purple, and even two different hair colors on a single head with todays tech, and dying hair was around for hundreds of years, albiet with varying degrees of primitiveness. I always found it far fetched that we could only have natural hair colors in this advanced super age, when all the other old addages of the human racist exist such as techo music, smoking, and tattoos. All those are around and some such as tattoos are super high tech and easy to do. But coloring your hair? Come on now, we're not magic. 

 

Just never made a lot of sense to me.


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I can't even remember what gif I just linked as I type this. That probably means that I should reconsider. I sure had to retype everything three times just to make sure I spelt er'tything rite.

 


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The thread has come full circle now. Again.

 

In another 10 pages we'll start all over again with genetics, false studies and racism accusations.

 

BSN at its finest.

 

The cycle must continue.


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Why does hair dye not exist in the future? Or omnigel infused perma-contacts thst change your eye color at will? 

 

We can have for example Blue, Green, Purple, and even two different hair colors on a single head with todays tech, and dying hair was around for hundreds of years, albiet with varying degrees of primitiveness. I always found it far fetched that we could only have natural hair colors in this advanced super age, when all the other old addages of the human racist exist such as techo music, smoking, and tattoos. All those are around and some such as tattoos are super high tech and easy to do. But coloring your hair? Come on now, we're not magic. 

 

Just never made a lot of sense to me.

The problem with hair dye is two fold though.

 

1. It gradually turns your hair into....something worse than it already is.  A hair dye a day will eventually make you look like a meth addict anyway.

 

2.  Blonde hair dye is particularly bad if you have raven or brown hair.  Because eventually the hair follicle nearest the scalp goes back to being brown or black and everyone and their mother can tell you aren't a genuine blonde at that point. 


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Chronoid forget that, It's the future. With all the advancements in ME, the discovery of some type of uber super dye that circumvents the limitations of 21st century hair products could be a thing,


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Chronoid forget that, It's the future. With all the advancements in ME, the discovery of some type of uber super dye that circumvents the limitations of 21st century hair products could be a thing,

Might not even need to bother with hair dye, could have hair transplants or some kind of treatment that allows the person to "naturally" grow whatever hair color they want(even completely artificial ones). The same with eye color.


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^Good ideas. With them bringing Shep back Fifth Element style these two procedures seem highly plausible.



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^Good ideas. With them bringing Shep back Fifth Element style these two procedures seem highly plausible.

I better get a my silver haired and purple eyed DOA Christie lookalike PC in this.


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I'd be more concerned about what zero gravity would do. That's a constant. The Sun/Suns wouldn't be. And besides, it'd take a helluva lot longer than a couple of hundred years for radical gene changes.

 

I know blue eyes can show up.. and light hair as well. I'm just saying they're recessive. That's just a simple fact.

 

I recommend The Expanse (the book and tv series) which is kinda like Mass Effect anyway. There's humans who called themselves Belters and they grew up in artificial or low gravity, their bones distorted and their body couldn't stand the stress of being inside planetary gravity. Earthlings and Martian themselves classified them as sub-human. 

 

Honestly, the whole dominant/recessive phenotypic traits was an outdated theory anyway since traits like brown/blue/green eyes or brown/blonde/red hair is now classed under multifactorial inheritance rather than two-gene model. Besides, its just melanin expressions... sigh


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Dominant and recessive don't work like they do in The Sims 2 (where dominant always wins). Dominant traits have a higher likelihood, but nothing is guaranteed in genetics. And that's a good thing.

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The problem with hair dye is two fold though.

1. It gradually turns your hair into....something worse than it already is. A hair dye a day will eventually make you look like a meth addict anyway.

2. Blonde hair dye is particularly bad if you have raven or brown hair. Because eventually the hair follicle nearest the scalp goes back to being brown or black and everyone and their mother can tell you aren't a genuine blonde at that point.


Did you know that according to the mass effect novels, you can completely change your hairs style, type ((IE straight to curly or vice versa)), and color, along the with skin color, eye color, and limited facial features within minutes in mass effect, and have them be temporary or permenant depending on your choice. In the first novel, david anderson and kahlee sanders sneak off of Elysium I believe it was, by getting some underground smugglers to help them slip off world, and they use these procedures which are legal but done off the table.

That novel takes place I believe 20 years before ME 1. Yet apparently in that time period this tech disappeared from all corners of the universe. Even raver culture and night clubs on omega, illium, or the citadel, don't have rebellious teens making themselves look like freaks to stand out.

Or more accurately, the writers didn't bother to remember this scene, and the game devs were too lazy to have more then, like, 5 hair colors in their game.

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Blonde hair is ugly as **** tho, just saying :P


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That's mostly because traits can be passed on without being expressed.  The genes for light eyes and hair may skip a few generations but what we'd actually see with mixing is an increase of the frequency of the gene in populations where it had hitherto been nonexistent.  And with subsequent generations we'd see blondes with blue eyes born from parents who are carriers for the traits but don't express it themselves.

 

That's probably true. My nephew who is 5 years old is metis with curly hair. And we have no idea where he got his esmerald green eyes, while he is dark skinned. His black mother has black eyes, and his white father has quite light eyes, but they are more grey than anything else, not green at all, not even close. And not even his grandfathers had green eyes. My nephew's color eyes probably come from unknown parents in the family of the father far far in the past. 
 
And to remain on topic, another one is metis. It's a young woman, she has weird curly hair because it's dark below and blonde on the above, while she is dark skinned. It was her natural color hair until she colored them in auburn... ( no idea why she did that but whatever.. ) Her blonde hair comes from her white mother who is blonde. It was pretty funny to watch them when they were together because they totally looked alike while they don't share the same skin at all. Even whithout knowing them, just meeting them on the streets side by side, you can easily guess they are related lol.
 
Also, we have a metis child in the family who is very pale, ( almost looking white ), and we have another one, his own brother who is really dark while they have the same parents. We can never really know how the genes are going to affect a new baby born when it's mixed.. That's one of the first things I've learned on this topic. So your theory, I believe it. 
 
The face of my family has radically changed since most of my big family came to immmigrate in France 30 year ago, with the sons of the immigrants born in the country breaking the eternal norm. It was all black with black eyes, probably for centuries, now, I'm pretty sure it's going to be very mixed ( well, it's already the case ), especially when I see the girlfriends  / boyfriends of my cousins. The new generations aren't going to look like at all like people from the past. That's for sure lol.


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Blonde hair is ugly as **** tho, just saying :P

silence!


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I don't know anyone has said this but if it's the future then why not HAIR DYE. Give me my blue/purple hair  B)  :ph34r: