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[Original Mako]

*cut to save space*

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Now 500 years later, the galaxy is ready to expand beyond its limits and discover new frontiers.

 

^ This version of your theory is the best yet. Much better than the previous ones, since you try to accommodate for the Synthesis ending. Still, you need to explain how the Krogan and Quarians might still be alive or might be dead. Krogans, you could argue that the genophage was "cured" when they became cyborg-y (either on their own eventually, or through the "green beam"), but the Quarians...?

 

One solution would be just to have no Quarians in Andromeda! Of all the MW races, I'd miss them the least.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

^ This version of your theory is the best yet. Much better than the previous ones, since you try to accommodate for the Synthesis ending. Still, you need to explain how the Krogan and Quarians might still be alive or might be dead. Krogans, you could argue that the genophage was "cured" when they became cyborg-y (either on their own eventually, or through the "green beam"), but the Quarians...?

 

One solution would be just to have no Quarians in Andromeda! Of all the MW races, I'd miss them the least.

Regardless of the events on Rannoch, it is canon that there are survivors of both the Quarians and the Geth that fight alongside the galactic forces. 

[Killroy]

^ This version of your theory is the best yet. Much better than the previous ones, since you try to accommodate for the Synthesis ending. Still, you need to explain how the Krogan and Quarians might still be alive or might be dead. Krogans, you could argue that the genophage was "cured" when they became cyborg-y (either on their own eventually, or through the "green beam"), but the Quarians...?

 

One solution would be just to have no Quarians in Andromeda! Of all the MW races, I'd miss them the least.

 

The Genophage isn't a plague. It won't wipe out the Krogans in 500 years.

[fizzypop]

 

Explain to me how you can have ONE future with all three endings. It wouldn't be possible because as soon as you have humans that are bio-synesthetic you would be destroying the blue and red endings entirely. If reapers are around controlled by Shepard you would be destroying green and red endings. There is just no way without it being some contrived mess and likely sound equally implausible (not to mention stupid). I would definitely not play it then as blue and green are not endings that I liked nor cared for. If they tried to give all three endings a nod they would have to create a bunch of content for that...if it was me I would go the lazy route. Honestly, bioware often does. Which is why it sounds more reasonable to me. I suppose you could just not mention it at all and allow the players to roleplay it, but that sounds stupid too. I doubt the fans would be happy with that.

 

That just wouldn't be the case:

 

Say the story of MEA takes place 500 years later:

                                                                              Destroy AI ending

                                                                               Synthesis

                                                                               Control AI ending

 

Destroy AI: The catalyst and reapers are destroyed and technology throughout the galaxy is damaged. The galaxy rebuilds using reaper technology left from their carcasses. The reapers themselves are disassembled. They learn much from reaper technology and as time moves on, the use of synthetic technology to augment organics becomes commonplace. The geth are spared destruction because some heretics were placed into cold storage by the other geth as punishment and they were not active. The crucible only destroyed active synthetic signatures. The geth were salvaged and reactivated by the quarians or another race.

 

Synthesis: The catalyst uses the reapers to rebuild the galaxy. Now with a new solution, synthesis, the catalyst has no qualms about sharing knowledge and technology to advance the galaxy. Eventually the catalyst chooses to decompile having served its purpose put forth by the leviathan. Once inactivated, the reapers die because the catalyst was a personification of all reaper consciousness and intelligence. They reapers are disassembled. The use of synthetics to augment organics has become commonplace.

 

Control Ai: Shepard takes the place of the catalyst and uses the reapers to rebuild the galaxy. Reaper technology is used to advance galactic cultures. Eventually, the shepard AI decides the usefulness of the reapers is at an end. They are a symbol of previous eons of oppression and he was helped to build a brave new future for the galaxy. The reapers are disassembled and the Shepard AI leaves, is left in cold storage until such time as it is needed again or is left to degrade now that the reapers no longer support the artificial construct. The use of synthetics to augment organics becomes commonplace given the knowledge of all previous civilisations before.

 

Now 500 years later, the galaxy is ready to expand beyond its limits and discover new frontiers.

 

But you are still making sweeping generalizations and taking choice out of players hands. That would literally ****** off the fan base even more.

Here's an example: "My control Shepard would have never destroyed himself/herself!" "I ****** hate glowing green thing! This makes no sense!" "You said the geth were all destroyed!!!!!" Face it fans are assholes. We will pick that **** apart.

Syn would be hard because you would have to tailor the entire game to it...and if there was ANY conflict/squad mate that involved a non-organic being (because in the other two futures they would have them, only syn does all non-organics get organic parts) it would be a mess. You might as well make two separate games with all the extra content you would need. That or you would brush over it which would make that ending pointless as **** anyways. Syn is probably the biggest game breaker as it is such a HUGE change that I can't really believe they would go that route. Control and destroy if they were the only options it would be easier and I would agree, but I don't think they are capable of that kind of work. Or that they would see it as beneficial when there is such an easy way out...

Not saying it can't happen, but I just highly doubt it. You aren't talking about one future, you are talking about three separate stories. That's A LOT of work. Given ME3 I really hope they don't waste their time with that. The ending of ME3 sucked I would prefer to just forget it. I think that's what they want to do too. Just move on to greener pastures. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't either way, but I think Rev is right. That this would be the path of least resistance and complaining. If they tried to address the endings it would just start another complain war especially if they retconned anything or made decisions with Shepard that someone wouldn't have made. Or they wouldn't address the endings fully enough to make everyone happy. Not doing so at all isn't really an option because they'll complain there too the only exception is if Rev is right.

[Original Mako]

The Genophage isn't a plague. It won't wipe out the Krogans in 500 years.

 

I know - but I thought Wrex mentions something in ME1 about his race not having long to go because of the genophage and the fact that most Krogan aren't even trying to do anything about it. My memory might be fuzzy though.

[UpUpAway]

I know - but I thought Wrex mentions something in ME1 about his race not having long to go because of the genophage and the fact that most Krogan aren't even trying to do anything about it. My memory might be fuzzy though.

 

That is Wrex's opinion/assessment in ME1.  However, the Mayan calendar allegedly predicted that the world would end in 2012... it didn't.  Wrex could just have been simply mistaken about that.

[Timberley]

To throw my opinion into the mix, I'm going with the intro to the game taking place during the events of ME3.  Yes, I'm sort of following the ARKCON Theory here.  I reckon as well that the ship we've seen is a mixture of MW and Andromeda technology, discovered when we first popped into Andromeda.  Not sure how, could be ships found at the termination point, or ships we shot up at the termination point, or technology we got from friendly aliens.  Or, it could just be handwaved away...  It could be our ship (The Tempest, if rumours are to be believed), and houses our strike teams, etc. as well as smaller ships we use for planetary landing (think the Valkyrie shuttle from Avatar) so we can go zooming about in the Mako.  A bit like a mobile version of the Inquisitor's castle.

 

Further, the N7 from the trailer is one of the strike team commandos, not our character, and is thus one we can use in the MP game.  The Pathfinder is actually a rookie N7 who volunteered for the second wave of ARKCON ships, and arrives a few weeks after the first wave (who left when the batarians went quiet).  They arrive to find the Tempest under attack, and retake it from hostile locals.  The CO of the Tempest dies and we are named the successor (because ~reasons).  Then MEA begins properly...

 

Tim

[Killroy]

I know - but I thought Wrex mentions something in ME1 about his race not having long to go because of the genophage and the fact that most Krogan aren't even trying to do anything about it. My memory might be fuzzy though.

 

Wrex was talking about Krogans losing themselves to nihilism and rage. He even specifically says "The Genophage isn't what's killing us" when explaining to Shepard why he'd mostly given up on his people.

[In Exile]

I know - but I thought Wrex mentions something in ME1 about his race not having long to go because of the genophage and the fact that most Krogan aren't even trying to do anything about it. My memory might be fuzzy though.

That's because the krogan aren't reproducing above replacement. But that's due to their being mercenaries and dying by the dozens every moment.

[Original Mako]

That's because the krogan aren't reproducing above replacement. But that's due to their being mercenaries and dying by the dozens every moment.

 

I know, but it's the genophage was causing the cultural malaise and alarming negative pop. growth.

 

 

That is Wrex's opinion/assessment in ME1.  However, the Mayan calendar allegedly predicted that the world would end in 2012... it didn't.  Wrex could just have been simply mistaken about that.

 

Mayans didn't have the benefit of modern science. Wrex does. This is a terrible analogy and I hate it when people do this. Making analogies doesn't prove a point. I could turn around and say the weather guy predicted it would be cloudy today, and it is! Wow, Wrex's prediction must be right because an unrelated person on an unrelated topic made a prediction that was right.

 

\grumble grumble

Sorry.

[Angry_Elcor]

I suppose this is a very silly answer, but my thoughts on when ME:A takes place and why are: December 2016, and because that's more or less what they seem to be hinting is the release schedule.

[Andrew Lucas]

Guys, I don't know if you have paid attention to the news, but there's no Canon ending nor a combination of them. It's not hard to understand.

[Killroy]

I know, but it's the genophage was causing the cultural malaise and alarming negative pop. growth.

 

The Krogan blew themselves up with nuclear bombs and the Genophage has lost it's full potency before and it was happening again. 

The Krogan are like deer. They're too stupid to be left uncontrolled and if left uncontrolled they'll ruin the land. 

[UpUpAway]

I know, but it's the genophage was causing the cultural malaise and alarming negative pop. growth.

 

 

 

Mayans didn't have the benefit of modern science. Wrex does. This is a terrible analogy and I hate it when people do this. Making analogies doesn't prove a point. I could turn around and say the weather guy predicted it would be cloudy today, and it is! Wow, Wrex's prediction must be right because an unrelated person on an unrelated topic made a prediction that was right.

 

\grumble grumble

Sorry.

 

Oh, I get it... Krogans are the violent goons of the MEU, but they're supposed to make every emotional assessment of the status of their own species based on scientific knowledge.  My point  was that Wrex COULD BE mistaken about the length of time HE THINKS his species is going to last.  I doubt he studied it in the lab like Mordin.  Even Mordin said there were "too many variables."

[Rocks_and_shoals]

But you are still making sweeping generalizations and taking choice out of players hands. That would literally ****** off the fan base even more.

Here's an example: "My control Shepard would have never destroyed himself/herself!" "I ****** hate glowing green thing! This makes no sense!" "You said the geth were all destroyed!!!!!" Face it fans are assholes. We will pick that **** apart.

Syn would be hard because you would have to tailor the entire game to it...and if there was ANY conflict/squad mate that involved a non-organic being (because in the other two futures they would have them, only syn does all non-organics get organic parts) it would be a mess. You might as well make two separate games with all the extra content you would need. That or you would brush over it which would make that ending pointless as **** anyways. Syn is probably the biggest game breaker as it is such a HUGE change that I can't really believe they would go that route. Control and destroy if they were the only options it would be easier and I would agree, but I don't think they are capable of that kind of work. Or that they would see it as beneficial when there is such an easy way out...

Not saying it can't happen, but I just highly doubt it. You aren't talking about one future, you are talking about three separate stories. That's A LOT of work. Given ME3 I really hope they don't waste their time with that. The ending of ME3 sucked I would prefer to just forget it. I think that's what they want to do too. Just move on to greener pastures. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't either way, but I think Rev is right. That this would be the path of least resistance and complaining. If they tried to address the endings it would just start another complain war especially if they retconned anything or made decisions with Shepard that someone wouldn't have made. Or they wouldn't address the endings fully enough to make everyone happy. Not doing so at all isn't really an option because they'll complain there too the only exception is if Rev is right.

 

I think perhaps people in the ME community are so entrenched on the idea of disliking the ME ending because that's what some other highly vocal individuals feel that they make illogical statements and are unable to change their mind, even if their reasoning doesn't make sense. Its almost fanatical. How do you know that Shepard wouldn't choose to end the reapers in control eventually under the right circumstances? If it was done right, anything can happen. Theres also no guarantee the geth are all destroyed either etc.

Lets be honest, nobody knows what exactly the synthesis ending was supposed to mean. All the catalyst said was that organics and synthetics would be integrated, that it would alter the matrix of organic life. Does this mean people will have biotic implants like shepard? The reaper of Diis desmonstrated that the reapers are composed of both organic and synthetic components already. But perhaps they could not try it with the races of the MW because they were not ready?

Maybe MW species would become like the cylons of the new battlestar galactica. They were synthetically composed right down to their DNA but they were so close to being biological that the humans required a 'cylon detector' to tell them apart. The only real difference was that cylons could upload their consciousness into new bodies and access other cylon memories. There wasn't a massive difference.  It blurred the line between what was alive and what was synthetic. So perhaps something like that could work? There are many possibilities.

 

In case the fan base didn't notice, the ME team have benn taking choice out of the players hands since day 1. Did your choices in ME1 drastically alter the outcome of ME2. Or in ME2, did saving the collector base for cereberus or destroying it, alter cereberus getting their hands on reaper tech in ME3? No it didn't. So why should it be different between ME3 and ME4? Why, only now after 6 years would the fan base decry a lack in choice when that has been a basic mechanic of ME since the beginning. Its just the newest novelty that players seem to have choice in games like ME, KOTOR, Telltale games the walking dead, Life is strange, the wolf among us etc. Its just an illusion.

[AlanC9]

Regardless of the events on Rannoch, it is canon that there are survivors of both the Quarians and the Geth that fight alongside the galactic forces.

Established where?

[Il Divo]

^I would be shocked if there weren't Quarian survivors. Isn't it established in ME1 by Tali that some defect from their pilgrimage and go other places? 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Established where?

Via the Multiplayer that Bioware has said is canon, which has both Geth and Quarians fighting in places that don't come under attack until after the Rannoch arc. 

[Giantdeathrobot]

If memory serves, Shepard has access to a unit of Geth Primes regardless of their choice on Rannoch. And there are certainly some Quarians who were on their Pilgrimage during the events of ME3, unless the Migrant Fleet recalled every single one of them which is admitedly possible.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If memory serves, Shepard has access to a unit of Geth Primes regardless of their choice on Rannoch.

Yeah. Even with the rest of the Geth destroyed, those Geth Prime units remain friendly. No reason to think that Geth who agreed with Legion/Geth VI also left before being captured. 

 

And there are certainly some Quarians who were on their Pilgrimage during the events of ME3, unless the Migrant Fleet recalled every single one of them which is admitedly possible.

They were. We get a message about it on the Spectre Terminal: 

Quarian pilgrim Jen'Volan nar Neema on the Citadel received a large credit transfer from the fleet. Jen'Volan purchased tech, including high-end weapon mounts and kinetic barrier emitters, from several ship service centers. On Illium, another quarian pilgrim, unidentified, was observed searching for a ship traveling: "close to the Perseus Veil." The pilgrim was later heard saying that his pilgrimage was recalled. Data suggests the quarian fleet is withdrawing its pilgrims and upgrading ships for combat somewhere near the Perseus Veil. This could be a reaction to the Reaper invasion, but no formal offer or request for assistance has come. Intel suggests the quarians may instead be preparing for conflict with geth.

 

That said, as we learned in Mass Effect 2 if a Quarian disagrees with what the Migrant Fleet is doing, they are free to leave, even taking a ship if the entire ship disagrees with the Migrant Fleet. The Quarians we meet later can be from those Quarians. 

[Original Mako]

Oh, I get it... Krogans are the violent goons of the MEU, but they're supposed to make every emotional assessment of the status of their own species based on scientific knowledge.  My point  was that Wrex COULD BE mistaken about the length of time HE THINKS his species is going to last.  I doubt he studied it in the lab like Mordin.  Even Mordin said there were "too many variables."

 

That's fair, and I agree. Even if someone more "science-y" than Wrex had said it, you would still be right - the Krogans, without a cure, could still persevere in the long term.

 

And good points above few posters on why Quarians could still be around. I don't like the Quarians (because I'm mean), but I guess it's true that not all of them die at the hands of the Geth if you allow upload and lack red/blue.

[Dorrieb]

Thoughts on when Mass Effect: Andromeda takes place and why:

 

When: It's happening sort-of-'meanwhile'-but-not-really, either shortly before, shortly after, or during, but leaving it intentionally vague.

 

Why: Because someone really believes that Mass Effect can be the next Star Wars.