236 réponses à ce sujet

[9TailsFox]

Any ****** trait can be made interesting with the right spin on it. Just like even the most interesting and unique of characterization is wasted on a bad script and delivery. It's all about presentation, and all about how it relates to the context of the story, and the quality of the voice actor and animator.

 

There is 1 trait though that i'm sick of from these games. And that is the Eldritch Abomination and God of Evil trope bioware loves to beat us to death with when it comes to antagonists. Lately it seems it's the only badguy they know how to write as a main bad. Vitiate from Star Wars the Old Republic, The Reapers with mass effect, Corypheus with Dragon Age. It seems bioware loves writing a character who rarely fights and whose purpose is to drone on about how worthless life is and how much of a superior being they are. Basically, a character who talks down to the character and player in the dullest way possible, by talking down to their whole race and species.

 

I'd love instead, for bioware to make a protagonist whose just an *******. They don't want to wipe out all life, or turn themselves into a living god, or put a giant eyeball on the moon to trap everyone in a dream world. They just want power, political power to be exact, and to rule everything and ruin everyone elses day. Bioware wrote those characters well with some of the Venatori, ME2 era cerberus and the illusive man, definetly when it came to characters like Baras, Jadus, and Malleus from star wars, and even some of the new expansion stuff. They have the ability to do it, so I hope they do it.

Vitiate is not antagonist he is my sith warrior boss/master   Ok fine he is insane. Yes Vitiate is OP. But all SWTOR story's are good have good antagonist for our character. I like how  knight of fallen empire it's personal story and our enemy is not some god. And in swtor you can be as sadistic/evil as Vaylin. I watched evil sith warrior on youtube it's sick and horrible .

[Original Mako]

Because **** how I feel about you, you're already dead!

 

That's a bit cruel. I'm sure there are real world examples where someone falls in love with someone with a terminal disease, and more commonly, continues to love someone with a terminal disease. A wise friend once told me "you don't choose who you fall in love with. It just happens".

 

You're suppose to love someone for who they are, not for the long term viability of them "giving teh shexxx".

 

\ sappy off

[Midnight Bliss]

Yeah, this is one thread Bioware can go ahead and ignore in its entirety.

You should stick to coming up with quotes for your forum signature.

[Onewomanarmy]

- sexy alien men with awesome voices that intrigue you but immediately tell you they have a terminal disease <---Worst buzzkill ever. 

 

And I agree,  -no rehashes of old characters like Joker 2.0, Liara 2.0, or even Garrus 2.0. I freaking love Garrus, yes,. But there's only one Garrus. 

 

-no bossy b****s. (Miranda, Cassandra) 

 

-no whiney b****s. (Liara, Ashley) 

 

-And no Vega-like characters unless you let us romance them. 

 

I agree with all of this except for the Miranda and Cassandra part. I really liked them as characters, especially Miranda, beautiful, sexy and strong all in one xD

 

Keep in mind I'm straight though, I liked them as how I like women to be and not because I romanced them.

 

Oh, btw out with all the feminists, you're not wanted lol  

[Riven326]

That's a bit cruel. I'm sure there are real world examples where someone falls in love with someone with a terminal disease, and more commonly, continues to love someone with a terminal disease. A wise friend once told me "you don't choose who you fall in love with. It just happens".

 

You're suppose to love someone for who they are, not for the long term viability of them "giving teh shexxx".

 

\ sappy off

I agree. The person I was quoting made it sound like Thane was already dead by the time he and Shepard had met. The only thing I don't like about Thane and his illness is really how he goes out. He should have beaten Kai Leng and died from his exertions rather than being killed by the sword. That's the only thing I would change with regards to Thane.

[Obliviousmiss]

Because **** how I feel about you, you're already dead!

 

I thought Thane was sexy for sure. He just had too much baggage for me. I was interested in a long term thing. I didn't want my heart broken soon..... call me selfish.... but Garrus offered more of the commitment I wanted  

[Dabrikishaw]

People that use their religion to be holier than thou, belittle others, or just plain act like they know better because they are religious

 

Snake in the grass politicians

 

Anyone that pretends the world around them is what they want it to be instead of what it is.

[Riven326]

I thought Thane was sexy for sure. He just had too much baggage for me. I was interested in a long term thing. I didn't want my heart broken soon..... call me selfish.... but Garrus offered more of the commitment I wanted

I can only imagine what it must have been like to play ME3 after having romanced Jacob. At least the players who did romance Thane knew at the end that the character did love Shepard and vice versa. I wonder how many Jacob romancers let the reapers continue the harvest at the end just out of spite...

[Petiertje]

I don't want any crew members that have serious mental health issues. People that are chosen for trips like to Andromeda are thoroughly screened for those kind of mental states, or risk of getting in one on the trip that is wouldn't make sense to have half the crew being some kind of imbalanced whatever you can be that is imbalanced. So please no stories about missed last chances, lost partners etc. those kind of issues should be resolved long before the first liftoff by all the staff prepping those explorers, at least helped them with it to close the issue.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Vitiate is not antagonist he is my sith warrior boss/master Ok fine he is insane. Yes Vitiate is OP. But all SWTOR story's are good have good antagonist for our character. I like how knight of fallen empire it's personal story and our enemy is not some god. And in swtor you can be as sadistic/evil as Vaylin. I watched evil sith warrior on youtube it's sick and horrible .

That's all fine and good and all. But we've had it for 7 consecutive goddamn games already. Mass Effect, Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age 2, Star War The Old Republic, Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age Inquisition.

Bioware has shoved the more interesting character onto the sidelines for the more boring one. SWTOR wasn't on this list until knights of the fallen empire, but it still bears repeating that now its officially 7 titles in a row where the badguy turned out to be an ancient eldrich evilmof godlike proportions.

[vbibbi]

Pretty much everything to do with Thane:

1) Dead Spouse
2) Estranged Son
3) Terminal disease

Frankly, I'm good with the Carth syndrome. I thought Cortez was handled pretty well, but he had to be yet another grieving widow(er.)

4) Estranged father. There is a lot of parental issues in BW games as a whole.

I don't have anything else to add, since other posters covered the points I wanted to make.

_{Psst...Boobs aren't a personality type. Hurrah for natural boobs, no matter the size!}

No more widow(ers) at all would be nice. At least as romances. There can be a wide spectrum between innocent virgin, bitter widow and evil seductress with a heart of gold.

 

hahaha
Ye. my mistake, kinda meant Social justice, racial stereotypes, or any popular modern issues represented in game character just because.

Exactly. These issues should already be fully embraced by the time of Mass Effect, right?

 

Okay here's my list:

 

The sassy gay guy

The "I'll sleep with anything" bi man or woman

The "I'm a cold b!tch, now come and warm me up" female romance (Morrigan, Miranda)

The "I'm your bro whether you want me to be or not" guy (Garrus, Varric)

The handsome and noble guy ... who's only into women

The innocent girl you feel a little uncomfortable romancing (Merrill, Tali)

The villain whose goal in life is ULTIMATE POWER for no real reason (Corypheus, Udina)

The ninja / samurai Asian (Kai Leng, Kasumi)

The wise Native (non-BioWare example is Chakotay from ST:VOY)

Okay basically any racial stereotype, you can see where this is going

The female prostitute with the heart of gold (Sha'ira, Inara from Firefly)

The male grunt (James Vega, Jacob)

The grizzled male veteran (Zaeed)

 

A lot of these can be so easily subverted simply by re-envisioning sex, sexuality, or race. For example, a female bro, a sassy straight guy, or a Ninja-like Black guy. Too often games and TV shows go for the straight up trope, probably not on purpose, but just not thinking too deeply about what they're putting out there. 

They really do recycle a lot of their basic character tropes...

 

- This may sound controversial, but ME: A is veering dangerously close to the history of global colonialism by late medieval to early modern Europeans. I hope that just because the 'Ark' carries the endangered species of the MW, it does not give the Player Character carte blanche to go Columbus on everyone.

It's Bioware. They are going to ignore the issues of colonization by making native alien species either automatically hostile and unwilling to negotiate, or wise and benevolent species who will take us under their wings.

[Eromenos]

Sexualized female pinnochios

 

De-sexualized male pinnochios

 

TIM

Kelly Chambers

Morinth

Shaira

 

Gwen Cooper/Daisy Johnson

 

Nicholas Rush

Chloe Armstrong

Eli Wallace