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ftfy comrade.

Actually, could have just put every single other character in the game including volus, but I wanted to put quarians somewhere in this post. Oh wait I just did.

 

 

Looks like someone is running a fever or something.  Did you take a sip of water or breath some air that didn't go through 53 filters first?  Given your grenade spamming nature and tendency to be lazy and inefficient at killing I would think you would appreciate a real race tanking the entire map worth of enemies while you sit back knowing you could never do something as team oriented as that, but you sure get your use out of sabotage now.

 

As for Abrams, we were off to a good start.  You could have just said "I know value when I see it."  But you want to be 1 dimensional with the killing too?  All I'm saying is that you better hope ME: A isn't like DA: I and gives players the tools to "sabotage" their teammates and if you're skilled enough you can cause your teammates to die cuz I'm putting the hit out on both of you to all Geth.

 

Get em OP.


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Juggernauts aren't worth the praise. They just get in the way. :)


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As for Abrams, we were off to a good start.  You could have just said "I know value when I see it."  But you want to be 1 dimensional with the killing too?  All I'm saying is that you better hope ME: A isn't like DA: I and gives players the tools to "sabotage" their teammates and if you're skilled enough you can cause your teammates to die cuz I'm putting the hit out on both of you to all Geth.

 

If ME:AMP is like DA:IMP nether of us will around to argue bout such petty things, due to many gamebreaking bugs, & lackluster game play.

 

I reformatted all of my Geth Programs to be clean of Reaper code, so they don't stab you in the back, due to faulty code. Something bout saving organics from synthetics by "preserving" organics into synthetics. & please do send a lot Geth at me, could always use more units, to repair/ maintain my all of Juggernaut platforms.


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If ME:AMP is like DA:IMP nether of us will around to argue bout such petty things, due to many gamebreaking bugs, & lackluster game play.

 

I reformatted all of my Geth Programs to be clean of Reaper code, so they don't stab you in the back, due to faulty code. Something bout saving organics from synthetics by "preserving" organics into synthetics. & please do send a lot Geth at me, could always use more units, to repair/ maintain my all of Juggernaut platforms.

 

I can't even be mad.  I have no choice but to like you after that first line haha.  So very true.  WTF were they doing over there.



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I love the Easter Egg with the Juggernaut.  On Goddess, since it's the land of strippers, there is one spot you can stand on the terrace and hear nightclub music.  If you equip a Widow II and stand still at that spot for a while, your Jugg will do the Legion pop-lock from ME2.  I think that's why you have to have a Widow II, since the scene is from ME2.  I was pretty disappointed when I unlocked the Widow III, and it stopped working.


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Reason #1 - the mightiest drunk can still drink and play casually.


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I love the Easter Egg with the Juggernaut.  On Goddess, since it's the land of strippers, there is one spot you can stand on the terrace and hear nightclub music.  If you equip a Widow II and stand still at that spot for a while, your Jugg will do the Legion pop-lock from ME2.  I think that's why you have to have a Widow II, since the scene is from ME2.  I was pretty disappointed when I unlocked the Widow III, and it stopped working.

 

I hear if you unlock a widow 4, you unlock widow Princess Leia. Complete with chain smoking wrinkles and horse throat voice.



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The QMS/ QME/& QMI are far more efficient at killing things than the Juggernaut will be, & they can redeploy faster than it too, instead of it walking for an hour to get there.

 

Say what you will about the rest, but a QMS needs the gun to carry him. I remember yawning while playing this character and not because he made things easy.



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As someone who's played a boatload of soldiers, qms has always been the most boring to me, the kit is just so one dimensional, shoot shoot shoot, the powers don't interact in a meaningful way, long competing cool downs, etc. I've tried to like it but it's only fun once in a while with spitfire for novelty.
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As someone who's played a boatload of soldiers, qms has always been the most boring to me, the kit is just so one dimensional, shoot shoot shoot, the powers don't interact in a meaningful way, long competing cool downs, etc. I've tried to like it but it's only fun once in a while with spitfire for novelty.


Wellll, now, now, as a challenge to OP loadouts, like I did exactly that, yesterday. If u load QMS with a locust, you can spam powers *and* work extremely hard , for that mook kill , even with MM (magic mushrooms) - it's something like an aerobic mp workout and u get to complete the smg challenge in two games. Yeah, you have to fight to keep up with everyone elses detonations, but u learn to write your initials on the foreheads of such Collectors (got to Fuen and a half f)
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It is slow, can get staggered, has to walk around knee-high obstacles and nothing screams "carry me pls" louder than a juggernaut grabbing every enemy in reach.

 

Spitfire is also not a good weapon choice since the juggernaut lacks in weapon damage bonus (and the spitfire desperately needs them)

 

Juggernaut can be half-decent with a PPR + inferno ammo (or Adas) and siege pulse spam.

 

It's not all about efficiency. Spitfire is simply a way of life and the Juggernaut with a Spitfire allows a playstyle that's entirely different from all other characters.


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It's not all about efficiency. Spitfire is simply a way of life and the Juggernaut with a Spitfire allows a playstyle that's entirely different from all other characters.

 

I fist everything with the Jugg.  I just use the Crusader.  Kill from any range and get that big melee buff.



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It's not all about efficiency. Spitfire is simply a way of life and the Juggernaut with a Spitfire allows a playstyle that's entirely different from all other characters.

 

Quite so. To which I'dd add that Siren showed me the joy of using Cryo on the Spitfire, so that everything takes longer to get near you.


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Best thing about the Jugg is not having to worry about phantoms.  I use the Spitfire or Krysae on him with fire or disruptor ammo, and spam Siege Pulse. Crusader also works well.



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Quite so. To which I'dd add that Siren showed me the joy of using Cryo on the Spitfire, so that everything takes longer to get near you.

 

Funny that I haven't thought of that myself, but yeah, that makes sense. I guess I kinda neglected the existance of cryo-ammo since I never saw that much sense in using it. 



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Wellll, now, now, as a challenge to OP loadouts, like I did exactly that, yesterday. If u load QMS with a locust, you can spam powers *and* work extremely hard , for that mook kill , even with MM (magic mushrooms) - it's something like an aerobic mp workout and u get to complete the smg challenge in two games. Yeah, you have to fight to keep up with everyone elses detonations, but u learn to write your initials on the foreheads of such Collectors (got to Fuen and a half f)

Aerobic is so 80ies and honestly: Who wants to see male people doing aerobic? Gah - with 80ies hairstyles even? :sick:



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Quite so. To which I'dd add that Siren showed me the joy of using Cryo on the Spitfire, so that everything takes longer to get near you.

"Everything"? Maybe it's just me, but I haven't noticed much effect on armoured guys with cryo.



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Funny that I haven't thought of that myself, but yeah, that makes sense. I guess I kinda neglected the existance of cryo-ammo since I never saw that much sense in using it. 

 

Well, it's not like anyone (except 7twozero) is ever low on Cryo ammo, so here's a good way to use it :)

 

"Everything"? Maybe it's just me, but I haven't noticed much effect on armoured guys with cryo.

 

Perhaps I very occasionally, in the most extreme circumstances, am marginally given to hyperbole. But Cryo isn't bad against armor, and on the Spitfire it genuinely is fun.



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Well, it's not like anyone (except 7twozero) is ever low on Cryo ammo, so here's a good way to use it :)

 

 

Perhaps I very occasionally, in the most extreme circumstances, am marginally given to hyperbole. But Cryo isn't bad against armor, and on the Spitfire it genuinely is fun.

Have you tried disruptor? Electric dance floor?



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Looks like someone is running a fever or something.  Did you take a sip of water or breath some air that didn't go through 53 filters first?  Given your grenade spamming nature and tendency to be lazy and inefficient at killing I would think you would appreciate a real race tanking the entire map worth of enemies while you sit back knowing you could never do something as team oriented as that, but you sure get your use out of sabotage now.

 

All I'm saying is that you better hope ME: A isn't like DA: I and gives players the tools to "sabotage" their teammates and if you're skilled enough you can cause your teammates to die cuz I'm putting the hit out on both of you to all Geth.

 

Get em OP.

Why would a quarian need a Puggernaut to do that when they could just hack a geth prime and watch the dumb robot do the same thing while playing tag with its own pets, all the while not wasting a spot that another glorious quarian squadmate could fill?

bring it bosh'tet, more scrap metal for Xen's army: https://www.youtube....BZhpBNw#t=0m38s
 

 

Say what you will about the rest, but a QMS needs the gun to carry him. I remember yawning while playing this character and not because he made things easy.

He doesn't really, or at least doesn't need a ROFLstomp gun. Put a lowly Locust, Tempest, GPR or Phaeston in his hands and he'll tear up the whole map with typical quarian efficiency provided the player can take advantage of all the stacked headshot bonuses. On Plat where there's so much boss spam, you may wish to carry a backup pistol, hurdurricane or shotty to down them a bit more quickly, but it's hardly ineffective either way since Tactical Scan.

The quarksman's only "flaw" in gameplay terms is that he requires top tier aiming, due to lack of CC other than shooting things in the face before they shoot you. Oh, he's kinda hard to play under the influence of tequila se'lai too, I guess.


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Yeah you can get his cool downs low and spam powers but they feel underwhelming and have no real synergy, if you like him though that's great, this is just me personally, I'm sure others can make him dance ok but I just never really got the right feel of him.
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Yeah you can get his cool downs low and spam powers but they feel underwhelming and have no real synergy, if you like him though that's great, this is just me personally, I'm sure others can make him dance ok but I just never really got the right feel of him.


Same for me, I find his combination of powers to be very strange and uninteresting, my least played kit after the Talon Merc.
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Yeah you can get his cool downs low and spam powers but they feel underwhelming and have no real synergy, if you like him though that's great, this is just me personally, I'm sure others can make him dance ok but I just never really got the right feel of him.

Tacscan and Marksman have pretty good synergy even with heavy weapons, considering the former's cooldown is so low that you can activate it and use the latter immediately after the animation. It works better as a debuff than on the Tsol's weapon build at least, where you have to use a lightweight weapon to make PM useful for anything but firing into a mook spawn.

But you're right about Sabotage and how his whole shtick is shooting things in the face (I don't have a problem with this because he's a soldier). Hacking is really very situational (almost entirely useless vs two factions) and you can do without it pretty easily (though I do drop the last rank of fitness and put 3 points). He makes a pretty effective melee build with it specced for tech vulnerability, but the QFI does almost the exact same thing better so it's mostly for the novelty of it.



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Tacscan and Marksman have pretty good synergy even with heavy weapons, considering the former's cooldown is so low that you can activate it and use the latter immediately after the animation. It works better as a debuff than on the Tsol's weapon build at least, where you have to use a lightweight weapon to make PM useful for anything but firing into a mook spawn.

But you're right about Sabotage and how his whole shtick is shooting things in the face (I don't have a problem with this because he's a soldier). Hacking is really very situational (almost entirely useless vs two factions) and you can do without it pretty easily (though I do drop the last rank of fitness and put 3 points). He makes a pretty effective melee build with it specced for tech vulnerability, but the QFI does almost the exact same thing better so it's mostly for the novelty of it.

 

That sounds interesting, but what I'd really like to hear is how QMR plays him. She's the real Quarian expert around here.


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The juggy is not as uninteresting as some posters make it out to be. In particular if you host and use a focused power damage build with siege pulse, then equip incendiary ammo and a good priming weapon, you can staggerlock all the enemies (great for revenge against cheating Geth faction), you become a fire explosion generating machine

 

http://kalence.drupa...!13N54364!3DGEB

 

A couple qualifiers here

 

1. Don't use this in a lobby of all really good players / even with an adrenaline module you won't get anywhere fast enough

 

2. Don't take fitness rank 6, can't afford to lose the %15 damage output


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