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[MattH]

I'd be happy to see DAs version turn up in the next game, perhaps through peasant superstitions as they did our medieval history.

Any kind of new demons I'm all for, especially if it's a spin on a classic (succubus as desire demons etc).

[vertigomez]

What about living people?

Only if they function like the dead ones... mostly mindless cannibal blood-drinkers.

[RepHope]

"Vampires" in DA sound more like zombies than traditional vampires in my opinion.

 

Frankly I'd rather they make more demons like Mouse or Envy. If they're going to rip off W3 I'd rather they do a demon like O'Dimm rather than the incredibly unscary and nonthreatening demons of DAI. I'm honestly shocked that anyone in DA can be tricked by a demon considering how stupid Bioware likes to portray them.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I'm honestly shocked that anyone in DA can be tricked by a demon considering how stupid Bioware likes to portray them.

They cheat a bit with hypnotic abilities.

[vertigomez]

"Vampires" in DA sound more like zombies than traditional vampires in my opinion.
 
Frankly I'd rather they make more demons like Mouse or Envy. If they're going to rip off W3 I'd rather they do a demon like O'Dimm rather than the incredibly unscary and nonthreatening demons of DAI. I'm honestly shocked that anyone in DA can be tricked by a demon considering how stupid Bioware likes to portray them.

Traditional vampires are more like zombies than not, according to folklore.

[Sifr]

Sure lets have vampires. Then will get the forums filled with squealing teens who want the vampires to sparkle and be able to have a relationship with them.

 

I can see it now, the love scene begins, the romantic music swells and... they instantly kill you and start to chow down on your corpse.

 

Well, what did you all think would happen?

 

[Heimdall]

Is that the one where they're innately evil, and while one heroic person does willingly become a vampire he lets the sun hit him because he knows he won't stay that way?

(Speaking of which I hope the sun doesn't actually weaken any vampires we meet. There's no logical reason for that in this setting, and if they're following pre-established lore on demonic hierarchy most vampires will already be so weak that they don't need a weakness other than their relative lack of strength.)

Yes, and they barely look human, animalistic too, taking a chunk out of their prey's neck rather than two little fang marks.

Burning in the sun wouldn't make sense, but I could see a case where a very old hunger demon could acquire power through other means. Say, in the Grand Necropolis scenario I mentioned earlier. Maybe a very old Mortalitasi summoned a hunger demon into himself (Or someone else) while still alive long ago and has been amassing power while prowling the forgotten depths of the Necropolis.

[RepHope]

Traditional vampires are more like zombies than not, according to folklore.

Lol fair enough.

 

"Mainstream" or "modern" would've been a better choice I guess.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Yes, and they barely look human, animalistic too, taking a chunk out of their prey's neck rather than two little fang marks.

Burning in the sun wouldn't make sense, but I could see a case where a very old hunger demon could acquire power through other means. Say, in the Grand Necropolis scenario I mentioned earlier. Maybe a very old Mortalitasi summoned a hunger demon into himself (Or someone else) while still alive long ago and has been amassing power while prowling the forgotten depths of the Necropolis.

I don't know how being a vampire changes their appearance, but Mark Kirby's word on how vampires act seems to fit this. Though I think looking entirely human and acting entirely animal would be scarier anyway.

 

Do demons become more powerful over time, or the more they feed their specific vice? I didn't think they did, but on the other hand it would make sense given that a demon we know to be a contemporary with the Seven Magisters and to have fed off the Nightmares they caused for about that long is powerful enough that you apparently can't meaningfully fight it.

[Sifr]

Yes, and they barely look human, animalistic too, taking a chunk out of their prey's neck rather than two little fang marks.

Burning in the sun wouldn't make sense, but I could see a case where a very old hunger demon could acquire power through other means. Say, in the Grand Necropolis scenario I mentioned earlier. Maybe a very old Mortalitasi summoned a hunger demon into himself (Or someone else) while still alive long ago and has been amassing power while prowling the forgotten depths of the Necropolis.

 

What I love about the 30 Days of Night Vampires is how they were intentionally designed to come across as sharks in human bodies, both in appearance and personality, combining their predatory nature with our cunning and intelligence.

 

 

Frankly I'd rather they make more demons like Mouse or Envy. If they're going to rip off W3 I'd rather they do a demon like O'Dimm rather than the incredibly unscary and nonthreatening demons of DAI. I'm honestly shocked that anyone in DA can be tricked by a demon considering how stupid Bioware likes to portray them.

 

Mouse and Envy were very fun demons, especially Mouse because he doesn't even bother to fight you after you suss him out. I kept waiting throughout Origins to encounter him again and was surprised he never showed back up again... unless he was the Pride Demon that ended up possessing Uldred, but even if pride is his forte, I can't imagine Mouse being that smug?

 

DAI's conceit with the demons we fight near rifts that they were pulled against their will, so many were just corrupted spirits driven mad.

 

But you're right it was a shame that with the Veil torn, we didn't have really have any real opportunities to chin-wag with some craftier demons who'd taken advantage of it to come through and cause some mischief? Imshael is probably the one I can think of and even he really doesn't end up coming across as nearly as dangerous or cunning as he was supposed to be.

[Heimdall]

I don't know how being a vampire changes their appearance, but Mark Kirby's word on how vampires act seems to fit this.

Do demons become more powerful over time, or the more they feed their specific vice? I didn't think they did, but on the other hand it would make sense given that a demon we know to be a contemporary with the Seven Magisters and to have fed off the Nightmares they caused for about that long is powerful enough that you apparently can't meaningfully fight it.

Yes, the Nightmare seems to suggest that the relative power of a demon can change.

And remember that we're talking about an abomination. I wonder, if it's a weak demon maybe the host personality will have more influence if it's strong enough.

[Sifr]

I don't know how being a vampire changes their appearance, but Mark Kirby's word on how vampires act seems to fit this. Though I think looking entirely human and acting entirely animal would be scarier anyway.

 

Could depend on how strong the demon is, we tend to see Pride and Desire demons consistently be depicted as being able to manage to retain a human appearance after possession. Sloth from "Broken Circle" seems to be an exception as he looked like a normal abomination, but controlled an entire section of the Fade and had demons under his command who normally would "outrank" him. But then again, maybe maintaining all that might have meant he didn't have any power to spare on making his meat-suit look pretty in the real world?

 

I do like the idea that a hunger-abomination might look human at times, but when they fall prey to their natural instinct to gorge themselves stupid, they cannot help but put on a game-face, similar to how Justice would manifest in Anders in DA2.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Could depend on how strong the demon is, we tend to see Pride and Desire demons consistently be depicted as being able to manage to retain a human appearance after possession. Sloth from "Broken Circle" seems to be an exception as he looked like a normal abomination, but controlled an entire section of the Fade and had demons under his command who normally would "outrank" him. But then again, maybe maintaining all that might have meant he didn't have any power to spare on making his meat-suit look pretty in the real world?

 

I do like the idea that a hunger-abomination might look human at times, but when they fall prey to their natural instinct to gorge themselves stupid, they cannot help but put on a game-face, similar to how Justice would manifest in Anders in DA2.

I think it's the opposite. I think that reshaping the host takes power, and that the body will stay mundane unless the demon specifically causes it not to. The ones with real power who only put on their Game Face or One Winged Angel form at the last second aren't in human form because they're suppressing their demonic aspects, but because they're not specifically choosing to assume them since changing their host's form is the work of less than a second at that level. This comes to the same thing in a lot of ways, but it would mean that a weak demon in a non-mage would appear human by default.

[TheExtreamH]

naw no vampires. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Technically the Culen we have is a vampire, specifically a vampire trying to cure himself. Its just that instead of having a thirst for human blood, he has a thirst for Titan blood.

 

I think we can say with absolute certainty that Templars are vampires with a thirst for Titan blood, whereas mages are vampires who drink Titan blood occasionally.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Technically the Culen we have is a vampire, specifically a vampire trying to cure himself. Its just that instead of having a thirst for human blood, he has a thirst for Titan blood.

... dammit.

[Kakistos_]

No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is to say that "traditional" Vampires like Dracula, Selene, Lestat and Darla simply do not exist in Dragon Age and it should remain that way. That said, I would have no problem with exploring the nature of Hunger Demons and their hosts further.

[CoM Solaufein]

Selene.   No vampires in DA, not even hot ones like Selene.

[vertigomez]

Technically the Culen we have is a vampire, specifically a vampire trying to cure himself. Its just that instead of having a thirst for human blood, he has a thirst for Titan blood.
 
I think we can say with absolute certainty that Templars are vampires with a thirst for Titan blood, whereas mages are vampires who drink Titan blood occasionally.

Oh my god. Does this mean the Titans are Gulliver, and the dwarves are mining their blood for the sake of the ravenous masses?

brb cryin

[Panda]

I wonder if they would really fit- werevolves were already pushing it. Bioware already has elves, dwarves, mages and then their own fantasy races/monsters in terms of Qunaris and Darkspawns in the game so suddenly having vampires mixed in would feel pretty weird. I guess they could make some kind of spin about it, maybe there is Tevinter cult that doesn't only use blood magic- they also drink the blood, but vampires as immortal bloodsuckers who transform into bats and can't be under sunlight- maybe not.

[Sifr]

Technically the Culen we have is a vampire, specifically a vampire trying to cure himself. Its just that instead of having a thirst for human blood, he has a thirst for Titan blood.

 

I think we can say with absolute certainty that Templars are vampires with a thirst for Titan blood, whereas mages are vampires who drink Titan blood occasionally.

 

So if Cullen is akin to Mitchell from Being Human... does that make Samson the equivalent to Jared Nomak from Blade 2?

 

[vertigomez]

So if Cullen is akin to Mitchell from Being Human... does that make Samson the equivalent to Jared Nomak from Blade 2?
 

Does this mean Anders is Buffy?

I sense an AU on the horizon.

[Gunsomber]

Lol vampires? Naaaah XD

[Iakus]

The lore says they become cannibals or vampires.

As long as it's more 30 Days of Night style vampire, which makes more sense with a hunger demon abomination to me, then that works for me.

Not familiar with 30 Days of Night.  But the description of Hunger abominations makes me think of something like the Wendigo  Though in the case of vampires I would guess it's more an obsession with consuming blood than flesh.

[Solace]

I think it would be cool to see a new humanoid race in Dragon Age, that share genetic relations with the dragons.