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Well i wondered why dragons are more weak than bears in Dragon age...
It must suck to be a dragon nowadays

 

It's not called Dragon Age because it has dragons, it's called Dragon Age because that's the name of the time period in which it takes place.

Yes and they called it Dragon age  because they saw a dragon fly over a mountain during the ferelden rebellion
(the same high dragon in the temple of DAO) that incinerated a bunch of Orlesians


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^ This one.

You may think that is cool,but it is literally the design of your typical high dragon of DAO just with a ghost aura on it

and it uses electric breath instead of a fire breath because......well why not?



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I think there should be a dragon that bursts open when it dies to reveal more dragons.

Seriously, though, dragons show up in more regions than wolves at this point.

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You may think that is cool,but it is literally the design of your typical high dragon of DAO just with a ghost aura on it

and it uses electric breath instead of a fire breath because......well why not?

 

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No Dragons are so much fun to fight 

 

50 dragons would basically mean not being able to walk anywhere without running into one. I'd actually like to walk around, progress the story and eventually move to the next area.



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1) It's called Dragon Age because that's the time period this world takes place in.

 

2) Old Gods and Archdemons look like dragons.

 

3) The blood of dragons are implied to be integrally tied to Thedas (Flemeth implies that if dragons were to die out, something worse would befall Thedas; and Solas implies the same if all the Old Gods were all killed off), though what that is has yet to be seen.

 

4) There aren't tons of dragons flying around because they were just recently rediscovered after centuries of being thought extinct. You can't expect an endangered species to go from none to dozens flying around every worldmap in just thirty years.

 

(Especially with so many ambitious dragon-hunters trying to kill them right and left. In fact, I kind of like the realism in this world. Fantasy adventurers love dragon-hunting as trophy-hunting. Well, what happens when tons of adventurers hunt dragons relentlessly for years on end? The damn things go adventured/extinct. A nice bit of "reality ensues.")

 

More than a bit... We would not be able to move around the maps without encountering dragons...

 

Not to mention hard to believe because dragons are HUGE, and they have to eat some time. Since you could fit a whole horse in their mouths, how many horses (and equivalently sized animals) do you think they have to eat a day? There'd be no wildlife anywhere and soon livestock and villages would be ravaged by hungry dragons literally eating everything in sight if there were that many flying around Thedas.



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1) It's called Dragon Age because that's the time period


Solas implies the same if all the Old Gods were all killed off), though what that is has yet to be seen.

Fantasy adventurers love dragon-hunting as trophy-hunting. Well, what happens when tons of adventurers hunt dragons relentlessly for years on end? The damn things go adventured/extinct. A nice bit of "reality ensues.")

OK but the age was called Dragon age by the chantry because of the returns of dragons.

Where and when Solas said something like that?

Those like Oghren (the stupid folk imho)would like to kill them for sport,but that is a silly reason.
Most of the time they die because they are a danger for others and nobody can calm them down(unless you're the elf girl of the movie that commands dragons)

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50 dragons would basically mean not being able to walk anywhere without running into one. I'd actually like to walk around, progress the story and eventually move to the next area.

 

More than a bit... We would not be able to move around the maps without encountering dragons...

 

No i mean that they respawn the other animals respawn to so why not the Dragons and that it is not the same Dragon over and over again and that they also respawn at different locations  


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Lore wise, Dragons were thought, until recently, to be extinct and so it makes sense that there wouldn't be that many around. Yet. I would argue that in light of lore there were perhaps too many dragons. They are also apex predators and not meant to be pushovers we encounter behind every corner.



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I think there should be a dragon that bursts open when it dies to reveal more dragons.

Seriously, though, dragons show up in more regions than wolves at this point.

 

Would be cool though 

 

Really not in my game those wolves are behind every corner in my game 


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I think everyone is forgetting a small part of Inquisition that potentially gives us ownership of several dragons in the future.

The war table mission from Frederic of Serault looking into extended research on dragons. If you choose the breeding ground option (Cullen's, iirc), then Frederic mentions that several eggs were taken and are now being incubated at Skyhold.

 

There's no possible way Bioware will actually let us use or keep any dragonlings, but it doesn't hurt to dream of letting your gaggle of dragons eat your enemies.



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I think everyone is forgetting a small part of Inquisition that potentially gives us ownership of several dragons in the future.

The war table mission from Frederic of Serault looking into extended research on dragons. If you choose the breeding ground option (Cullen's, iirc), then Frederic mentions that several eggs were taken and are now being incubated at Skyhold.

 

There's no possible way Bioware will actually let us use or keep any dragonlings, but it doesn't hurt to dream of letting your gaggle of dragons eat your enemies.

 

It would be nice though to have your own pet Dragon and she will help you in difficult situations and difficult missions in Dragon Age 4 


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I think everyone is forgetting a small part of Inquisition that potentially gives us ownership of several dragons in the future.

The war table mission from Frederic of Serault looking into extended research on dragons. If you choose the breeding ground option (Cullen's, iirc), then Frederic mentions that several eggs were taken and are now being incubated at Skyhold.

 

There's no possible way Bioware will actually let us use or keep any dragonlings, but it doesn't hurt to dream of letting your gaggle of dragons eat your enemies.

 

This is a very interesting idea and I would support it but I'm not sure that lore does. We have no idea if Dragons can be trained or in any way domesticated. The only instances of Dragon/human/Elf cooperation are Dragon Cults and possibly Ancient Tevinter Magisters. On the subject of Dragon Cults the cultists act as servants or drones and in no way control the Dragons. On the Ancient Tevinters we really have no details or solid facts but speculation and maybes.

 

It is possible that they used powerful Blood Magic and this would be an interesting moral issue to explore. I'm not opposed to the idea but if it is done it should be done right. If people were so easily capable of controlling Dragons, the apex predator in Thedas, then I'm sure many would have tried and we would know about it. There is probably a good reason why no one has succeeded. And before anyone starts, Corypheus was a unique case.



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Those are not Dragons, they are High Dragons and they are rare. I think there are too many in the game.

 

And no, they are not fun to fight. It's just a hackfest spamming the same moves over and over on the same health bar.

Or just get Sera to fire off Thousand Cuts and go home.



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I used to love the dragon fights but Dragon's Dogma has spoiled me as far as slaying dragons and all other manner of giant beast.

They're still fun to fight solo though.

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This is a very interesting idea and I would support it but I'm not sure that lore does. We have no idea if Dragons can be trained or in any way domesticated. The only instances of Dragon/human/Elf cooperation are Dragon Cults and possibly Ancient Tevinter Magisters. On the subject of Dragon Cults the cultists act as servants or drones and in no way control the Dragons. On the Ancient Tevinters we really have no details or solid facts but speculation and maybes.

 

It is possible that they used powerful Blood Magic and this would be an interesting moral issue to explore. I'm not opposed to the idea but if it is done it should be done right. If people were so easily capable of controlling Dragons, the apex predator in Thedas, then I'm sure many would have tried and we would know about it. There is probably a good reason why no one has succeeded. And before anyone starts, Corypheus was a unique case.

 

Hey this is a game off course Dragons can be domesticated and then we have our own Dragon pet cool   ;)


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I don't think there should have been more high dragons, but I do think there should have been more strong and unique bosses (including optional ones like the dragons are) with interesting fight mechanics that give good rewards.



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This is a very interesting idea and I would support it but I'm not sure that lore does. We have no idea if Dragons can be trained or in any way domesticated. The only instances of Dragon/human/Elf cooperation are Dragon Cults and possibly Ancient Tevinter Magisters. On the subject of Dragon Cults the cultists act as servants or drones and in no way control the Dragons. On the Ancient Tevinters we really have no details or solid facts but speculation and maybes.
 
It is possible that they used powerful Blood Magic and this would be an interesting moral issue to explore. I'm not opposed to the idea but if it is done it should be done right. If people were so easily capable of controlling Dragons, the apex predator in Thedas, then I'm sure many would have tried and we would know about it. There is probably a good reason why no one has succeeded. And before anyone starts, Corypheus was a unique case.

Yes, they can be tamed and there is more than one precedent:
-Kolgrim and his Reavers lived alongside a Dragon, while they might not directly command her she didn't harm HoF when Kolgrim didn't allow it and she seemingly was trained to asist when the bong sounds.
-Leopold was a Wyvern but they're implied to be even more violent than Dragons, still Prosper was able to command him on battle.
-Yavana is likely bound to her Dragon but it doesn't seems to be a forced bound.
-The original Jaws of Hakkon tamed their Dragon prior to use her as their God's vessel.

So, I think Frederic will likely tame his Dragons or at least train them enough to not hurt him.

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Honestly, I doubt it would even be possible to train dragonlings. They imprint upon a parent, and seem to be drawn to a high dragon's screeching call (see: Highland Ravager), but more than that would have to depend upon how intelligent they actually are and the nature of any human training going on. Dragonlings are voraciously hungry, so they would have to be constantly fed, or else they would be super dangerous for anyone trying to handle them. 

It's  best to think of the mission as being another OGB. A decision that has LOTS of potential, but will get swept under the rug or ignored.



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Yes, they can be tamed and there is more than one precedent:
-Kolgrim and his Reavers lived alongside a Dragon, while they might not directly command her she didn't harm HoF when Kolgrim didn't allow it and she seemingly was trained to asist when the bong sounds.
-Leopold was a Wyvern but they're implied to be even more violent than Dragons, still Prosper was able to command him on battle.
-Yavana is likely bound to her Dragon but it doesn't seems to be a forced bound.
-The original Jaws of Hakkon tamed their Dragon prior to use her as their God's vessel.

So, I think Frederic will likely tame his Dragons or at least train them enough to not hurt him.

 

None of those are examples of Dragons being tamed.

 

Kolgrim and his Reavers are a Dragon Cult and where only allowed to live among the nest because the High Dragon allowed it. This is not too different from examples where people can become close to wolf packs and lion prides by familiarizing themselves with it's members over time. They are no longer seen as a threat, allowed to live in close proximity but the lions and wolves are by no measure tamed and nor were the Dragons as they attack you on sight.

 

A Wyvern is not a Dragon. Dragons grow larger and have completely different social structures, temperaments, personalities and are suggested to be more intelligent. There is a reason why no one, other than the special case of Corypheus, has ever been seen riding a Dragon into battle.

 

Yavana's connection to Dragons as well as her mother's, Flemeth's and through her, Mythal's, is as of yet unexplained and unique.

 

The Hakkonites High Dragon was their Hold-Beast. Their relationship was not unlike Kolgrim and the Dragon Cult's. If they had been capable of taming or controlling her then they wouldn't have had to resort to binding her with a Spirit. And again, there are no examples of the Avvar or Dragon Cults riding "tamed" Dragons into war.



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None of those are examples of Dragons being tamed.

Kolgrim and his Reavers are a Dragon Cult and where only allowed to live among the nest because the High Dragon allowed it. This is not too different from examples where people can become close to wolf packs and lion prides by familiarizing themselves with it's members over time. They are no longer seen as a threat, allowed to live in close proximity but the lions and wolves are by no measure tamed and nor were the Dragons as they attack you on sight.

A Wyvern is not a Dragon. Dragons grow larger and have completely different social structures, temperaments, personalities and are suggested to be more intelligent. There is a reason why no one, other than the special case of Corypheus, has ever been seen riding a Dragon into battle.

Yavana's connection to Dragons as well as her mother's, Flemeth's and through her, Mythal's, is as of yet unexplained and unique.

The Hakkonites High Dragon was their Hold-Beast. Their relationship was not unlike Kolgrim and the Dragon Cult's. If they had been capable of taming or controlling her then they wouldn't have had to resort to binding her with a Spirit. And again, there are no examples of the Avvar or Dragon Cults riding "tamed" Dragons into war.


What about Avexis or the Dragon head on Val Royeaux? Ataashi might not count but the Qunari's brute Force was enough to keep her under control, It seems that for mages controlling Dragons is not so hard, Wyverns are more stupid than Dragons, so at most might be harder to train a Dragon due the size but clever animals are far easier to tame than the brute ones, besides, the dragonlings don't attack you if sided with Kolgrim and Corypheus is not the only dude that was seen riding a Dragon, Yavana did that too (against the Qunari, and she doesn't have a Mythal's fragment though.)

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10 dragons is enough. Maybe even more than enough. Dragons should be rare, very powerful monsters. Fighting and killing them shouldn't happen often and should be pretty hard,

 

It's certainly much better than in Skyrim, where you can't go pick flowers without having one of the annoying lizards show up and figure that he can take you on even when you previously left 75 of his kind dead and ate their souls. Reduding dragons to generic, easily killed random encounters was one of that game's biggest flaws.



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10 dragons is enough. Maybe even more than enough. Dragons should be rare, very powerful monsters. Fighting and killing them shouldn't happen often and should be pretty hard,

 

It's certainly much better than in Skyrim, where you can't go pick flowers without having one of the annoying lizards show up and figure that he can take you on even when you previously left 75 of his kind dead and ate their souls. Reduding dragons to generic, easily killed random encounters was one of that game's biggest flaws.

 

You mentioned Skyrim it would be cool though that you could also tame and ride a Dragon in Dragon Age Inquisition 


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You mentioned Skyrim it would be cool though that you could also tame and ride a Dragon in Dragon Age Inquisition 

 

I don't think so. I prefer dragons as Iron Bull puts it; the purest expression of wild, uncontrolled power. Making them into scaly puppies and riding them Dragonborn/Targaryen style diminishes their mystique. 

 

Being able to secure a dragon's help by various means is one thing, like for example Kolgrim's pact with the High Dragon or the Inquisitor bending one to their will once thanks to the Well's knowledge. But outright taming them into submission? Nah.


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What about Avexis or the Dragon head on Val Royeaux? Ataashi might not count but the Qunari's brute Force was enough to keep her under control, It seems that for mages controlling Dragons is not so hard, Wyverns are more stupid than Dragons, so at most might be harder to train a Dragon due the size but clever animals are far easier to tame than the brute ones, besides, the dragonlings don't attack you if sided with Kolgrim and Corypheus is not the only dude that was seen riding a Dragon, Yavana did that too (against the Qunari, and she doesn't have a Mythal's fragment though.)

 

Avexis is another special case, that is her abilities are unique, unezplained and have only ever been observed once. The Dragon head, Ms. Snippy Bits? was not tamed, she was murdered and her head was hung as a trophy. Ataashi was not tamed, that was obvious. She was subdued, chained, tortured and starved and has probably been a captive from a young age. If Mages were capable of "easily" controlling Dragons then all of Thedas would be Tevinter.

 

The Tevinter Magisters, arguable the most powerful and educated Mages in Thedas, who revere Dragons, cannot control Dragons. Yavana, again, is a unique case and while she doesn't have Mythal's soul she is still connected to her in some way through Flemeth just as Morrigan is. Morrigan is not the only Shapeshifter in the world and thus far no one other than those two have, in-game or in lore, have demonstrated the ability, that wasn't a god anyway.