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#101
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Well, google says cheese is cheap, unpleasant, or blatantly inauthentic. I'd say Mass Effect is none of those.


You're just being willfully obtuse. Everyone knows cheesey, with regard to entertainment, means hokey and not entirely serious.

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In terms of hair, I'd actually agree with you Killroy; good, sensible hairstyles, suitable for a military/space character, and ideally some way of having different styles 'on duty' and off-duty.  I hope they've managed to do something with the hair on Frostbite too, as the hair in DAI (before I got my new laptop) was as plastic-looking as it comes!

 

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You're just being willfully obtuse. Everyone knows cheesey, with regard to entertainment, means hokey and not entirely serious.

You presume too much. I never really got what people mean when they say cheesy. Even if I go by your loosely definition, I don't think I would say Mass Effect is that. It has some cringe worthy here and there, but most, if not all, games have them. But I believe it's serious enough.


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#104
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Serious enough for what? To ignore the Citadel DLC? To ignore Liara's joke of a character arc? To ignore the sexbot and her enormous robo-labia? To ignore the logical and scientific contrivances? To ignore the comically bad writing of Cerberus? To ignore the cereal killer space ninja?
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Serious enough for what? To ignore the Citadel DLC? To ignore Liara's joke of a character arc? To ignore the sexbot and her enormous robo-labia? To ignore the logical and scientific contrivances? To ignore the comically bad writing of Cerberus? To ignore the cereal killer space ninja?

 

Hey, can't we all just agree that book never happened? 

 

Its noncon, Its never getting rewritten it should be buried in a pit and forgotten.



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Hey, can't we all just agree that book never happened? 

 

Its noncon, Its never getting rewritten it should be buried in a pit and forgotten.

 

Oh, it's canon. BioWare never bothered to rewrite it or issue any sort of corrections to its content so it's totally canon. 



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Oh, it's canon. BioWare never bothered to rewrite it or issue any sort of corrections to its content so it's totally canon. 

 

Nu-huh.

 

Bioware hasn't released a updated copy so we are left with their final word on it. Which was it was flawed, incorrect and outright wrong.

 

I mean sure its cited like...twice in ME3 but still, Bioware's own word on it that it isn't to be taken as canon as it presently sits.

 

So noncon.



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Nu-huh.

 

Bioware hasn't released a updated copy so we are left with their final word on it. Which was it was flawed, incorrect and outright wrong.

 

I mean sure its cited like...twice in ME3 but still, Bioware's own word on it that it isn't to be taken as canon as it presently sits.

 

So noncon.

 

Source? Because it certainly has plenty of in-game support for being canon. 



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Serious enough for what? To ignore the Citadel DLC? To ignore Liara's joke of a character arc? To ignore the sexbot and her enormous robo-labia? To ignore the logical and scientific contrivances? To ignore the comically bad writing of Cerberus? To ignore the cereal killer space ninja?

 

"Oh yeah! Cheeeeese! Yeah, didn't we lock you in a dumpster one time?"

 

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#110
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Serious enough for what? 

For me to love it. 


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#111
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For me to love it.


But that doesn't mean it isn't cheesy. You can like something that's cheesy, just FYI.

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Source? Because it certainly has plenty of in-game support for being canon. 

 

Mass Effect fans have been asking for a comment on recent concerns over Mass Effect: Deception. We have been listening and have the below response on the issue.
 
The teams at Del Rey and BioWare would like to extend our sincerest apologies to the Mass Effect fans for any errors and oversights made in the recent novel Mass Effect: Deception.  We are currently working on a number of changes that will appear in future editions of the novel. 
 
We would like to thank all Mass Effect fans for their passion and dedication to this ever-growing world, and assure them that we are listening and taking this matter very seriously.
 
- Chris Priestly
 
 
And here is a listing of the majority of errors even. https://docs.google....o/preview?pli=1
 
That's from four years ago :P
 
They acknowledge errors, they acknowledge mistakes, they state it is their intent to fix them. Therefore this is a unfinished, incomplete product that should not be judged as valid.


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Nice try.



#114
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Honestly, I'm tired of asking for it. I've asked for better hair options for over half a decade and in each game they disappoint. Either a lack of options, nothing long, hair that looks like plastic, too many similar options, etc etc.

 

I've just accepted that Bioware will never be that good at creating good hair options for their games.

 

Oh and Mass Effect Deception isn't canon. lol

 

That book was straight garbage.


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#115
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Oh and Mass Effect Deception isn't canon. lol

 

That book was straight garbage.

 

So was ME3 but that's still canon.



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So was ME3 but that's still canon.

 

 

There's an old school Deception thread that goes over why its non-canon. http://forum.bioware...-30-more-links/

 

I want to say those were the good old days, but ick. Anyway, I doubt we'll get good hair options in the future, just like we never did get that supposed rework of the book.

 

At least for Andromeda people can give it a pass in saying what they've always said for the ME universe in that soldiers won't have wild hairstyles like there could be in a DA game.



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I wonder how many times this topic has been reincarnated.

 

Anyway, I wouldn't mind a proper beard.


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I wonder how many times this topic has been reincarnated.

 

Anyway, I wouldn't mind a proper beard.

A variety of hair options all around! Long hair so I can get my Snake Plisskin on. A huge beard for my space pirate playthroughs. And a hairy chest for the romance scenes, obviously. (I bet Asari love it)



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I find it funny people think Frostbite is somehow the reason we aren't getting good hairstyles, and while the engine may prevent decent lighting or physics, it doesn't mean it can't render hair. Most hair in games consist of a bunch of planes (polygons in a rectangular shape) with an alpha channel adding transparency. It has more to do with them needing to invest in better 3d modelling artists who don't suck. If I can mesh hair, then someone who has been university educated can mesh hair. They just don't put any effort into it.


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#120
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Just make one high quality hairstyle, Bioware

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Mass Effect fans have been asking for a comment on recent concerns over Mass Effect: Deception. We have been listening and have the below response on the issue.
 
The teams at Del Rey and BioWare would like to extend our sincerest apologies to the Mass Effect fans for any errors and oversights made in the recent novel Mass Effect: Deception.  We are currently working on a number of changes that will appear in future editions of the novel. 
 
We would like to thank all Mass Effect fans for their passion and dedication to this ever-growing world, and assure them that we are listening and taking this matter very seriously.
 
- Chris Priestly
 
 
And here is a listing of the majority of errors even. https://docs.google....o/preview?pli=1
 
That's from four years ago :P
 
They acknowledge errors, they acknowledge mistakes, they state it is their intent to fix them. Therefore this is a unfinished, incomplete product that should not be judged as valid.

 

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You can only go with what is available and not with what is intended.



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I'm currently replaying DA2 and the hairstyles are pretty nice in it, at least for the women. There's long kinda hair in it, wavy, straight, bangs etc. I wonder why bioware decided to go away from that style. They clearly do know how to make it work when they want it to.



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I'm currently replaying DA2 and the hairstyles are pretty nice in it, at least for the women. There's long kinda hair in it, wavy, straight, bangs etc. I wonder why bioware decided to go away from that style. They clearly do know how to make it work when they want it to.


I agree. DA2 is the only BioWare game with some decent hairstyles. Not speaking about quality, but the styles were quite cute. My preferred ones were the short pixie hairstyle, and the low braided one with bangs.
The only good thing (For me) in DA2 and of course BioWare didn't kept it. U_U
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#124
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I'm currently replaying DA2 and the hairstyles are pretty nice in it, at least for the women. There's long kinda hair in it, wavy, straight, bangs etc. I wonder why bioware decided to go away from that style. They clearly do know how to make it work when they want it to.

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DA2 used a different game engine. DA:I uses Frostbite. Hairstyles, here, may have been very low on the devs priority list. So, they slapped something freakish together for the CC.

 

We will see what happens with ME:A, another game using the FB3 rendering engine.


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I'm currently replaying DA2 and the hairstyles are pretty nice in it, at least for the women. There's long kinda hair in it, wavy, straight, bangs etc. I wonder why bioware decided to go away from that style. They clearly do know how to make it work when they want it to.

Agreed. DA2 had surprisingly decent hair options.


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