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[nightscrawl]

^ Hm... I've no idea. The only play where I didn't take him along was the first, and that was November 2014.

[thats1evildude]

Actually, doesn't Cole approve/disapprove of things regardless of if he's in the party (which can be a helpful way to get more than one person to approve)? I like to headcanon that he never stopped stalking you

Yes, he approves of good acts if he's not present.

That can be attributed to his nature as a spirit. He can sense when others are in need and when they are being helped.

[Heimdall]

Actually, does anyone know how Redcliffe is resolved if the Inquisitor gets the Templars? Is there a Charger mission to investigate?

Redcliffe is much less isolated than the stronghold the Templars used and this it could be argued that "what happened in Redcliffe" could refer to what happened there regardless of the Inquisitor.

The issue of Dorian being part of a mission that was never on the wartable skirts the bounds of what we see in the game but doesn't actually conflict. I always assumed there were some minor missions that the advisors took care of or implemented as part of one of the larger missions we did make a decision on. Dorian's presence is the main problem but not unresolvable.

The only outright thing this comic has asserted as canon is that Iron Bull and the Chargers joined the Inquisition (As I think virtually everyone that cares recruited everyone by default, I don't have a problem with this choice.

[sniper_arrow]

Actually, does anyone know how Redcliffe is resolved if the Inquisitor gets the Templars? Is there a Charger mission to investigate?

Redcliffe is much less isolated than the stronghold the Templars used and this it could be argued that "what happened in Redcliffe" could refer to what happened there regardless of the Inquisitor.

The issue of Dorian being part of a mission that was never on the wartable skirts the bounds of what we see in the game but doesn't actually conflict. I always assumed there were some minor missions that the advisors took care of or implemented as part of one of the larger missions we did make a decision on. Dorian's presence is the main problem but not unresolvable.

The only outright thing this comic has asserted as canon is that Iron Bull and the Chargers joined the Inquisition (As I think virtually everyone that cares recruited everyone by default, I don't have a problem with this choice.

 

According to the War Table mission, Investigate Redcliffe Castle, they just simply left.

 

http://dragonage.wik...edcliffe_Castle

[thats1evildude]

Yes, the mages just clear out if you side with the Templars. They're rallying elsewhere in preparation to march on Haven.

[Heimdall]

Yes, the mages just clear out if you side with the Templars. They're rallying elsewhere in preparation to march on Haven.

Huh, then I guess it would just be referring the fact that Tevinter Magister went ahead and seized a castle in Ferelden.

[nightscrawl]

The only outright thing this comic has asserted as canon is that Iron Bull and the Chargers joined the Inquisition (As I think virtually everyone that cares recruited everyone by default, I don't have a problem with this choice.

 
I don't recruit Bull, but I don't really have a problem with the assumption. I suspect that there are a limited amount of people who actually refuse to recruit someone. I'd say that the most common thing would be to recruit everyone and then just ignore those you don't care for.


The reason I assume the mage path and IHW is because it seems lame to me to mention Redcliffe at all if it were just a reference to taking over the castle. The time travel business, or recruiting the mages seems like a much bigger deal to me.

But it may very well be expanded on the upcoming issues. If not, then the player is left to view it as whatever path they chose.

[vbibbi]

I don't recruit Bull, but I don't really have a problem with the assumption. I suspect that there are a limited amount of people who actually refuse to recruit someone. I'd say that the most common thing would be to recruit everyone and then just ignore those you don't care for.
The reason I assume the mage path and IHW is because it seems lame to me to mention Redcliffe at all if it were just a reference to taking over the castle. The time travel business, or recruiting the mages seems like a much bigger deal to me.
But it may very well be expanded on the upcoming issues. If not, then the player is left to view it as whatever path they chose.

Wouldn't the time travel be kept secret by the Inquisition? No reason to panic the masses and let them know besides demons and rifts, we now have to worry about time travel. And it could be seen as notable that a Tevinter magister took over the castle, kicked out Teagan, and then took all rebel mages off to war. So even if the PC follows the Templar path, Redcliffe could still be worthy of mention.

[BSpud]

There's Dorian and Blackwall banter where it's implied that the time traveling in IHW is not public knowledge.

[Gervaise]

Well if the time travel is not public knowledge, then to the ordinary folk of Ferelden it would simply appear that the mage rebels, who were given sanctuary by their monarch, sold out to a Tevinter Magister for no good reason.     Remember this happens before the Inquisitor makes any decision over who to approach, so it cannot be blamed on the fact that the Inquisitor went off and sided with the Templars.     In the case of Anora, the codex specifically says that she persuaded her subjects to accept the mage refugees and that her own reputation suffered when they betrayed their trust in that way.   With Alistair I presume that he suffers less of a dent to his standing with his people because it isn't actually mentioned.   Everyone in Redcliffe knows that the people now in control are from Tevinter and as the Chantry sister says, they aren't even like regular Tevinter who do worship the Maker.    So it is something that would be remarked upon in conversation, "remember what happened in Redcliffe", because people would take note of something like that.     

[thesuperdarkone2]

Wouldn't the time travel be kept secret by the Inquisition? No reason to panic the masses and let them know besides demons and rifts, we now have to worry about time travel. And it could be seen as notable that a Tevinter magister took over the castle, kicked out Teagan, and then took all rebel mages off to war. So even if the PC follows the Templar path, Redcliffe could still be worthy of mention.

The Inquisitor didn't seem to have a problem outright talking about time magic in front of a crowd when judging Alexius

[nightscrawl]

The Inquisitor didn't seem to have a problem outright talking about time magic in front of a crowd when judging Alexius

 

Ahaha I forgot about that, and I always take the research option, too! Sure, Inquisitor, just blab it all over, why don'tcha?

[thesuperdarkone2]

Wouldn't the time travel be kept secret by the Inquisition? No reason to panic the masses and let them know besides demons and rifts, we now have to worry about time travel. And it could be seen as notable that a Tevinter magister took over the castle, kicked out Teagan, and then took all rebel mages off to war. So even if the PC follows the Templar path, Redcliffe could still be worthy of mention.

The cover of Volume 5 shows red templars, so there might be an answer there. Of course, this could be the default world state where allying with the mages occurred

[BSpud]

The Inquisitor didn't seem to have a problem outright talking about time magic in front of a crowd when judging Alexius

 

****, forgot about that.

 

Here's the Dorian & Blackwall banter btw (courtesy of the DA Wikia):

 

If In Hushed Whispers is completed:

• Blackwall: Word of what happened in Redcliffe had better not spread.
• Dorian: Oh? Why not?
• Blackwall: You think mages will be better off if people know they can change the future?
• Dorian: Ignoring that that's not the case, I suspect people will use any excuse to hate us.
• Blackwall: Then you should not give them more.
• Dorian: Did everyone act like this when the sword was invented? "Oh, my blushing butt cheeks! Round up everyone who can use these pointy things and lock them away!"
• Blackwall: It is not the same thing and you know it.

[Seraphim24]

Thread title made me think of KPOP for some reason

 

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More on topic didn't know those things existed!

[vbibbi]

The Inquisitor didn't seem to have a problem outright talking about time magic in front of a crowd when judging Alexius

I don't remember judgement scenes, is it implied that they're open to the public or just to trusted troops and the Inner Circle?

Or could it be seen as theoretical time travel, since it's really just the Inquisitor and Dorian's word that time travel actually occurred? Granted, it is stupid for us just to publicly blurt that information out.

[Heimdall]

I don't remember judgement scenes, is it implied that they're open to the public or just to trusted troops and the Inner Circle?

Or could it be seen as theoretical time travel, since it's really just the Inquisitor and Dorian's word that time travel actually occurred? Granted, it is stupid for us just to publicly blurt that information out.

I believe its mostly Inquisition soldiers, though there might be some of those nobles that hang around in the main hall.

[nightscrawl]

^ Everyone currently in the hall, all the various rotating NPCs, can see whatever judgement is going on. In my judgements of Alexius, I can see Giselle in the far background waiting to give me the Last Resort of Good Men because I just leave her hanging there until I'm ready to take the quest.

 

Inquisitor, might I have a word?

*Run away!*

[Gervaise]

I think the judgement was open to anyone who happened to be visiting at the time.   Besides our troops, agents and servants, there always seemed to be a number of visiting dignitaries.   It always annoyed me that the Orlesians continued to wear their masks since we weren't in the Court of Orlais and I prefer being able to see the faces of people, since anyone can hide behind a mask.    There is also always a steady stream of pilgrims come to see the Herald of Andraste, which is why you can exploit them if you wish by having a Chantry Garden where they can make financial contributions.

[nightscrawl]

There is also always a steady stream of pilgrims come to see the Herald of Andraste, which is why you can exploit them if you wish by having a Chantry Garden where they can make financial contributions.

You can?? Even though my Inquisitor is Andrastian, I always choose the garden. We needs plants for potions, not prayers.

[Gervaise]

In theory that is what is meant to happen, although I don't know where the money goes.   The only time I selected this instead of the herb garden it drove me crazy because the chantry sister who sounds like Anora kept quoting bits from the Chant standing in the Chapel, which meant you could also hear her every time you went to the War Room.   There were also lots of ugly looking wooden totems, Ferelden style, that are meant to depict Andraste and followers.    It ruined the garden for me, so I never did it again.  I only chose it on that occasion because I was playing someone who fully embraced the role of Herald (not so much because they believed they were but because it seemed like a good idea to play along with it), so it seemed appropriate to them.     Having the herb garden with more plant pots was definitely more useful and the garden was truly peaceful.