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[Nefla]

Yeah, but it'd be awfully fishy if the first qunari companion they try to "switch up" in regards to height is the only female one... what would even be the purpose? Why not make her unique by giving her an interesting backstory, or broken horns (since Sten was hornless and Bull has a distinctive, unbroken set), or make her more muscular than the average qunari lady?

Because then she'll be more attractive and will be a socially acceptable height to be romanced by human male players. That's what I thought as soon as I read the description. I'm on board with making a female Tal Vashoth companion but not if she's designed as some kind of fetish, even having her qunari traits changed or lessened to be more...palatable(?) as a romance option.   

[Hexxagone]

I dont care about romance, but I do want different companions to keep things fresh.

Female Dwarf
Female Qunari
An Avvar warrior
Etc
Etc
Etc

[ShadyKat]

Rogue: Lace Harding - Female Dwarf to switch things up, could be a romance for male/female Dwarves. Plus it brings back Ali Hillis to voice a full party member again.
Mage: Female Qunari - We had 2 male Qunari acting as warriors so this would be a nice change. You could make her character unique by making her a short Qunari (only as tall as a human male). Her height could be seen as a "disability" by other members of her race.
Warrior: Amund - The Sky Watcher Avvar that you meet early in the game. He could take over the Qunari's 2 handed warrior spot. He could also bring a unique perspective to your party and give us more information about the Avvar.

Agreed on all 3.

[Apo]

I dont care about romance, but I do want different companions to keep things fresh.

 

I agree about this, making new characters or companions for the sole purpose of romance is just weak, what about their impact in the story ?

[wright1978]

I'd like to see a female tal vashoth.

 

I'm rather neutral on the issue of an Avvar.

 

Personally i hope Harding is nowhere near the next game.

[Hexxagone]

I feel the Dwarf in DA4 will be either Harding or Bianca. ill be surprised if it isnt one of those 2.

[Witch Cocktor]

I feel the Dwarf in DA4 will be either Harding or Bianca. ill be surprised if it isnt one of those 2.

Please no.

[Inkvisiittori]

I would like to see Bianca again. She seems like an interesting character and it would be nice to learn more about her. 

 

I also liked Harding but I don't think she should return. Unless Inquisitor is the main protagonist. Then I would be interested in her becoming a companion in DA4.

[wright1978]

I feel the Dwarf in DA4 will be either Harding or Bianca. ill be surprised if it isnt one of those 2.

 

I'd definitely much prefer to see Bianca, a far more interesting character imo.

[Tidus]

I would rather have Harding as a LI then  Bianca. A female Elf as a LI for a PC Elf would be nice for a change. IMHO Tidus just didn't look good with either Josie or Cass.  

[Fylimar]

I would love to have Scout Harding as a companion in DA4. And a decent dwarf LI would be great too. I don't think, they will bring back Varric a third time (I so would romance him), but Harding would be a great choice too.

 

And if the game really is set in Tevinter, I would love to see the return of Fenris and Dorian. It would make so much sense - they both have very strong opinions about Tevinter and it would be fun,seeing how Fenris will ruin every try of a diplomatic approach, if he is in the group and Dorian probably could give a lot of insights in his funny, snarky way. I would have voted for Felix instead of Dorian (although I really love Dorian) for variety's sake, but for that, we need a Mortalitasi in our group I guess (killing Felix off so soon was a waste of a good character imo)

 

And I really liked Krem and Lysas from DAI. I would love to see them both as companions in DA4. But I guess, that's not possible, because both of them can die? I'm not so sure about Krem (haven't finished my playthrough, but I got spoiled somewhat), but I guess, if you side with the templars, Lysas will be considered dead after 'IYHSB'. But since you never see a corpse (or did I miss it? I didn't like joining the templars, so went back to an earlier safe and recruited the mages), he might make an appearance.

 

As for LIs: So far, I always found at least one inetresting LI in the DA games. Some of might remember Baldurs Gate 2 with that whining knight Anomen as the only LI for a female character, but in that regard, Bioware did improve a lot  (I still consider BG2 as one of the best rpgs ever though). 

But I have to agree with Apo, that a character should not be reduced to his LI value. In DAI for example I like to have Solas in my party, because he has a lot of interesting things to say, but I would never dream of romancing him. He's just a cool character with an interesting backstory and a lot of great interactions.

[Inkvisiittori]

And I really liked Krem and Lysas from DAI. I would love to see them both as companions in DA4. But I guess, that's not possible, because both of them can die? I'm not so sure about Krem (haven't finished my playthrough, but I got spoiled somewhat), but I guess, if you side with the templars, Lysas will be considered dead after 'IYHSB'. But since you never see a corpse (or did I miss it? I didn't like joining the templars, so went back to an earlier safe and recruited the mages), he might make an appearance.

 

I always wondered what happened to Lysas. You never see him again after completing In Hushed Whispers, right? Or have I just missed him. 

[Grakta]

i would personally love to see a saarebas, i also really enjoyed the playstyle of the saarebass in inquisition multiplayer.

however it bothered me that the saarebas was female. it seems to stand against the qun, and she was actually part of the qun and not (tal-)vasoth. it also directly counters a something sten says in dragon age origins.

 

[Sten: Why are you here?

Leliana: What do you mean?

Sten: Women are priests, artisans, farmers or shopkeepers. None of them have any place in fighting.

Leliana: I have no idea how to answer this...

Sten: It is not done. There is no more to it.

Leliana: Do you mean your people have no female mages or warriors?

Sten: Of course not. Why would our women wish to be men?

Leliana: What are you talking about? They don't wish to be men.

Sten: They shouldn't. That can only lead to frustration.

Leliana: Sten...no, never mind. Let's drop this.]

 

maybe i am missing some information here, if so please tell me cause i am very interested

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

i would personally love to see a saarebas, i also really enjoyed the playstyle of the saarebass in inquisition multiplayer.

however it bothered me that the saarebas was female. it seems to stand against the qun, and she was actually part of the qun and not (tal-)vasoth. it also directly counters a something sten says in dragon age origins.

 

[Sten: Why are you here?

Leliana: What do you mean?

Sten: Women are priests, artisans, farmers or shopkeepers. None of them have any place in fighting.

Leliana: I have no idea how to answer this...

Sten: It is not done. There is no more to it.

Leliana: Do you mean your people have no female mages or warriors?

Sten: Of course not. Why would our women wish to be men?

Leliana: What are you talking about? They don't wish to be men.

Sten: They shouldn't. That can only lead to frustration.

Leliana: Sten...no, never mind. Let's drop this.]

 

maybe i am missing some information here, if so please tell me cause i am very interested

 

The Qun doesn't see mages as people, but as things. The term Saarebas literally means "dangerous thing" in Qunlat. Or they are seen as Aqun-Athlok, which is "born of one gender but lives like another", and they see all Saarebas as male. 

[Kurogane335]

The Qun doesn't see mages as people, but as things. The term Saarebas literally means "dangerous thing" in Qunlat. Or they are seen as Aqun-Athlok, which is "born of one gender but lives like another", and they see all Saarebas as male. 

It's probably the first explanation. A Saarebas is not a "people" but a "thing" (even if themselves don't really themselves as things, or not totally, if the writings of Saarath). Though, was there an Arvaarad in the multiplayer ? I never tried it so... If there isn't, a Saarebas alone seems quite strange.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's probably the first explanation. A Saarebas is not a "people" but a "thing" (even if themselves don't really themselves as things, or not totally, if the writings of Saarath). Though, was there an Arvaarad in the multiplayer ? I never tried it so... If there isn't, a Saarebas alone seems quite strange.

I think so too, but the Qun have been retconned a few times over various things so they may have a new explanation. 

No, it was just a Saarebas by herself. Being without an Arvaarad is part of her story:

Hissera was training as a priestess when her magic manifested. She learned to serve the Qun as a saarebas instead, her lips sewn shut and her actions monitored to protect her from demons. She lived a simple, dutiful life until the Qunari, seeking an alliance with the Inquisition, sent her to help restore order to the decadent South. Now, without an arvaarad to guard her, she must trust in the Qun, and her own power, to keep her safe from corruption.

[Cyrus Amell]

I don't know if she counts as new enough but Valta from the very short Trespasser DLC (no pun intended) would make an excellent party member with her enigmatic motives, dwarven magic and as a possible romantic stand-in for Scout Harding for those hoping that our dwarven avatars can finally have a love interest they can literally see eye-to-eye with. It would be a shame if she was sidelined, especially since she arrives at the same conclusion of her story regardless of player conduct. 

 

The only problem is that players can say that they did not do the Trespasser DLC in the Dragon Age Keep, although this would not necessarily stop Valta from getting to her destination if the Legion of the Dead kept helping. 

[Kurogane335]

Perhaps it is because of the first alliance ever made by the Qunari and the goals of the Inquisition ? Something like : "Those guys destroy demons at a massive scale. They hold back evil*. They are Arvaarad. We don't need to send our own. Still, don't speak to them, Saarebas".

 

*The meaning of Arvaared being "He who hold back evil". That or they wanted her to die/have a reason to kill her afterward for whatever reason ?

[Dai Grepher]

Lace will definitely be in DA4 to assist the (ex)Inquisitor, since Cassandra and/or Leliana might be gone.

There is a female Qunari mage as a MP character already.

Skywatcher is also a multiplayer character.

I would prefer Sigrid Gulsdotten as a possible Avvar mage. She had a spirit inside her, which if you encourage that path she shows to be more powerful than even well-trained enchanters and magisters. You can encourage her to go back to the auger and release the spirit, but I don't think it's ever confirmed that she followed through on that or not. But this would be your mage and your Avvar in one character.

[Absafraginlootly]

Well I was thinking that because of her short height, she was viewed as flawed or unfit for the Qun. Either getting kicked out to fend for herself, or they tried to kill her and she escaped, becoming Tal'Vashoth. Both Sten and Iron Bull liked their people and viewed the Qun in a favorable light.

The Qunari female could hate the Qun and fellow Qunari because of their treatment of her.

 

I don't much mind how tall a potential female tal vashoth companion is, but I don't think height or any other abnormality in appearance makes sense as a reason to be Tal vashoth. We have no reason to believe that the Qunari would be prejudice against shortness, they aren't against hornlessness, and thats a much more notable physical abnormality. We do know that the Qunari do not waste anyone, they always find them a role to fullfill, but if they refuse to fill the role given to them then the qunari will either attempt to kill them, reprogram them or destroy their minds with qamek. 

 

Which means there's actually a pretty big variety in backgrounds that a Tal Vashoth companion can have since all that is required is for them to look at their assigned role and go "nope". A female Tal Vashoth could be:

• a woman who was assigned to be a farmer/shopkeeper/baker etc. who wants to fight instead
• Ben-hassrath agent (they can fight as ben hassrath even if they can't join the military) abroad who decides they like the freedom of the south and deserts
• a mage who was smuggled away by a tamassran to save them from a saerbas's fate, or a mage who developed later than normal ran themselves to avoid it.
• a Tamassran who refused to use qamek on someone
• etc

I'd love to have a female Tal Vashoth companion. We've had the loyal follower of the qun in Sten, and we've had a Qunari companion who becomes Tal Vashoth before our eyes, so let's have someone who already left the qun before we met them next. The perspective of some who was raised in the qun, left it, and hates it would really round out the player's experience of Qunari/Tal Vashoth.

[Orian Tabris]

We NEED a Saarebas. No questions asked. 

 

Why do we need a Saarebas? Also, how can there be no questions asked, if I just questioned the need for a Saarebas?

[vertigomez]

Why do we need a Saarebas? Also, how can there be no questions asked, if I just questioned the need for a Saarebas?

Something, something, something... demands of the Qun.

[Kurogane335]

Why do we need a Saarebas? Also, how can there be no questions asked, if I just questioned the need for a Saarebas?

 

To the viddathlok with you !

 

 

I'd love to have a female Tal Vashoth companion. We've had the loyal follower of the qun in Sten, and we've had a Qunari companion who becomes Tal Vashoth before our eyes, so let's have someone who already left the qun before we met them next. The perspective of some who was raised in the qun, left it, and hates it would really round out the player's experience of Qunari/Tal Vashoth.

 

Actually, since Bioware is clearly going fully to the Qunari being antagonists, having a pure (female or not) Tal-Vashoth would be a great idea, since Vashoth don't bring much if anything to the setting (they are basically culturally of the country where they live/lived for the longest time) while the Tal-Vashoth could bring both a more direct (and honest, in my opinion, compared to what was done in the previous games) but complex way about the Qun (the Tal-Vashoth wouldn't necessarily need to outright hate it, since for the Qunari, no matter way, if one leave the Qun, they are Tal-Vashoth).

[Danny Boy 7]

I'm coming to suspect more and more that Harding will be a follower or at least an advisor to the new protagonist. I didn't think so before (I didn't want her to be a follower tbh), but I would have sworn Varric wouldn't be a companion and yet here we are.

 

I think a Tamassran would be really interesting. The idea that they are priests, interrogators, brain washers and also sex therapists adds an interesting depth especially if one is a romance option. 

 

I sort of got my fill of Avvar culture. I like them and wouldn't mind seeing them again, but I don't know what perspective an Avvar could add.

 

Right now I suspect

Dorian-Mage 1

Harding-Rogue 1 or Secrets Advisor

Marius or Tessa (not both)-Warrior 1

[Kurogane335]

 

I think a Tamassran would be really interesting. The idea that they are priests, interrogators, brain washers and also sex therapists adds an interesting depth especially if one is a romance option. 

 

You're mixing Ben-Hassrath and Tamassaran. the former are secret police/priests, the latter are the priest/caretaker of young qunari. They also appear to have sex with anyone demanding it (which seems strange, I would have seen them arranging mating between good potential partners instead of doing the act themselves), but it makes them kind of worshippers of ancient Goddesses/Gods of pleasure (in our Antiquity, we had some in Mesopotamia, and even Greece at some point, if I'm not mistaken) and I can go with that, since here the Goddess/God is replaced by her duty to the Qun.

 

But I digress.

 

For a warrior, I would like (if it isn't the case for our protagonist) for him to have been born in an Altus but without magical power, so he would have been disowned by his family when this fact became clear and sent to military camps to be trained there. It would add insight into the higher spheres of Tevinter without the rose-tinged glasses that even a mage like Dorian posses, and could actually provide a sort of more radical change (with possible a follower supporting the statu quo, one from Dorian's faction of reforms but not revolution, and this warrior advocating for deep change, quickly).