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[German Soldier]

I just think that at least its power won't be lost for evil purposes..

[In Exile]

In theory, yes. And the reverse is true - some think the Nightmare was a spirit of compassion, like Cole.

[Aren]

Its power is intrinsically tied with fear and despair i think that is a bit too late now,even if the critter was once a spirit of compassion i think that none has the power to re-convert it.

In theory possible,in practical good luck to find someone powerful enough to do it.

For now i think that is one of the most powerful being we ever saw,more than Solas in fact beside to run there is nothing the protagonist can do and is even refreshing to have an opponent's that cannot be defeated by our invincibility curtain.

[In Exile]

Its power is intrinsically tied with fear and despair i think that is a bit too late now,even if the critter was once a spirit of compassion i think that none has the power to re-convert it.

In theory possible,in practical good luck to find someone powerful enough to do it.

 

As JOH explains it, the trick isn't power. It's belief. If everyone believes hard enough, the Fade (and its denizens) will change to accommodate that belief. 

[Dai Grepher]

I'm sure it's possible. But you would need to use a lot of magic to bind it, or it would need to go through some sort of process.

I think the closest comparison is Imshael. He's a powerful demon as well, but he considers himself a Spirit of Choice. If the Nightmare can become as sentient and free willed as Imshael, then it might one day choose a noble path like Cole did. But it would likely have to be guided on that path by various life experiences. At this stage the Nightmare is nothing more than an ethos. It follows its set purpose by default rather than deciding one for itself.

[Aren]

As JOH explains it, the trick isn't power. It's belief. If everyone believes hard enough, the Fade (and its denizens) will change to accommodate that belief. 

He acquired and accumulated those powers due to the  fear of Theodosians  since the first blight, isn't' this power now permanent?

It can be disrupted just by thoughts of a lack of fear?

[Kantr]

He acquired and accumulated those powers due to the  fear of Theodosians  since the first blight, isn't' this power now permanent?
It can be disrupted just by thoughts of a lack of fear?

Considering that the Nightmare's power comes from the fear of the blight, it's impossible

[thats1evildude]

I actually think Nightmare used to be a spirit; Cole's banter after Here Lies the Abyss suggests that it started out trying to help people. But the Blight (or rather, fear of the Blight) corrupted it, like everything else.

[fhs33721]

Considering that the Nightmare's power comes from the fear of the blight, it's impossible

I don't think it only feeds of fear of the blight but fear in general. After all it's demons do take the form of non-blight realated fears, it has some stolen memories that have nothing to do with the blight and even some that predate the blight. The seems to be just one pretty damm good source of delicious fear for it. So yeah I don't think it can be changed easily, maybe not at all, since people in Thedas will always be afraid of something.

[Gervaise]

Well Solas maintained that fear was the first emotion and thus the strongest.   I would have disputed that assertion with him if I could have done but as it stands, that is what he said.   So we have a primeval emotion that everyone feels at some time or other; from the little child having nightmares because they are afraid of the dark, right up to the horrors of the darkspawn, and this spirit/demon has been growing increasingly powerful as a result.   Somehow I don't think it is going to change.  The only way it could happen would be if there was no more fear in the world; hardly likely.   Also it has become that way whilst in the Fade, where all spirits are stronger because that is their natural home.   I think it is easier to change a spirit when it is yanked over into the real world because it doesn't really belong there and it is weaker as a result, so more vulnerable to external influences.

[In Exile]

 

He acquired and accumulated those powers due to the  fear of Theodosians  since the first blight, isn't' this power now permanent?

It can be disrupted just by thoughts of a lack of fear?

 

 

It's not so much that it's permanent as presumably as permanent as the Blight. Solas tells us stories about spirits who become whisps of nothing because they lose those who will them to exist. The Nightmare will be around as long as the Blight is around. 

[TEWR]

It's pointed out that at one point in time the spirit was once doing a good deed and helping people, but the desire to consume peoples' fears is probably what corrupted it, once the Blight came around. So much fear turned the spirit from a Spirit into a Demon (because all Demons and all Spirits are really just spirits).

 

In order for it to be turned back into what it was originally, the majority if not all of Thedas would have to not look at the Blight with fear. No easy task, and even then that's just a theoretical guess on my part on how it could be turned back. Since it feeds on fear, I doubt that just being unafraid of the Blight would do anything at all, since people can be afraid of many things.

 

The Blight is just the thing pretty much everyone is universally afraid of.

[Robert Cousland]

Hey guys,I heard a rumor that theres removed content where you could make Cole turn into a demon. Does anyone know if this is true?

[Xerrai]

Hey guys,I heard a rumor that theres removed content where you could make Cole turn into a demon. Does anyone know if this is true?

I have heard the same thing. Apparently in the original outline for his personal quest, the Inquisitor had the option to let Cole legitimately kill the Templar. Doing so would have made him a demon.

Word on the street is that Weeks "encouraged" for that option to be dropped. But no one can confirm. Though I have heard there were a few tweets made about it.

[German Soldier]

Who know why he has Corypheus voice?

[Inkvisiittori]

Who know why he has Corypheus voice?

 

Maybe it's supposed to frighten the Inquisitor, because Corypheus is her worst enemy.

[Aren]

Maybe it's supposed to frighten the Inquisitor, because Corypheus is her worst enemy.

Agree,demons can copy voices of others like they did in DAO.