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Muhahahahaha that should be the victory roar of Corypheus when he defeated us in the final battle.
 
To me this final battle is One big joke.
 
It has bin a while that i did this final quest ( doom upon all the world ) but it should be doom upon all the world. Because a man ( God ) with that kind of power that he could move the earth should be the winner of the final battle. He should open up the earth we would fall through to our deaths the spell that the Inquisitor had over that Mythal Dragon is lifted and that would be the end of it.
 
But instead what do i see when i fight him some kind of red stuff Lyrium i guess what he uses to try to defeat us. I got hit by one of those beams i thought this is it i die now but all it took was a little bit of my health bar and that was it. The only one that took the most damage was Sera and the rest nothing at all.
 
Sorry that i write this all down like i don't mean it and that this is a joke to me but this final battle is a big joke to me. But i mean every word and i am totally serious about what i said here Corypheus should be the one on top and not us the Inquisitor and the Inquisition.
 
Again this final battle is One big joke but that is my opinion 
 
Off course i am glad that we won the Inquisitor and the Inquisition but that should not be what should have happened here in that final battle.
 
Thoughts anyone ? 
    
 
edit. I don't know if you are going to read this AlFoley and CardButton but they said ( maybe more ) that Cory should win a battle to well this should be that one. They said that in some previous posts  

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Even if he lost in the vanilla game he won here.

http://forum.bioware...ing-the-camera/


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Ah yes, I'd definitely enjoy feeling like all my efforts of saving the world and stopping Corypheus would be for nothing. I'm sure you edgy edgersons love games where everyone dies and fails and the bad guy achieves his goal, but I enjoy a game where I am come out as victorious.



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Ah yes, I'd definitely enjoy feeling like all my efforts of saving the world and stopping Corypheus would be for nothing. I'm sure you edgy edgersons love games where everyone dies and fails and the bad guy achieves his goal, but I enjoy a game where I am come out as victorious.

 

Oh don't get me wrong i love to be victorious to but that should not have happened here he is just to powerful Bioware made a mistake here of making him to powerful 


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Muhahahahaha that should be the victory roar of Corypheus when he defeated us in the final battle.
 
To me this final battle is One big joke.
 
It has bin a while that i did this final quest ( doom upon all the world ) but it should be doom upon all the world. Because a man ( God ) with that kind of power that he could move the earth should be the winner of the final battle. He should open up the earth we would fall through to our deaths the spell that the Inquisitor had over that Mythal Dragon is lifted and that would be the end of it.
 
But instead what do i see when i fight him some kind of red stuff Lyrium i guess what he uses to try to defeat us. I got hit by one of those beams i thought this is it i die now but all it took was a little bit of my health bar and that was it. The only one that took the most damage was Sera and the rest nothing at all.
 
Sorry that i write this all down like i don't mean it and that this is a joke to me but this final battle is a big joke to me. But i mean every word and i am totally serious about what i said here Corypheus should be the one on top and not us the Inquisitor and the Inquisition.
 
Again this final battle is One big joke but that is my opinion 
 
Off course i am glad that we won the Inquisitor and the Inquisition but that should not be what should have happened here in that final battle.
 
Thoughts anyone ? 
    
 
edit. I don't know if you are going to read this AlFoley and CardButton but they said ( maybe more ) that Cory should win a battle to well this should be that one. They said that in some previous posts  

 

Use trials and set nightmare difficulty. Problem fixed. Don't thank.



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Use trials and set nightmare difficulty. Problem fixed. Don't thank.

 

Well even in nightmare mode we should not have won this battle so problem is not fixed he is just to powerful to defeat 


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Oh don't get me wrong i love to be victorious to but that should not have happened here he is just to powerful Bioware made a mistake here of making him to powerful 

Well obviously he wasn't TOO powerful if we beat him?


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Patricia08,Then it wouldn't be a true RPG where good conquers evil and saves the world.. I killed many baddies and bosses since Final Fantasy 1 and numerous baddies in D&D..Its the nature of the beast to kill the big boss and become a hero. Think of it as a perfect Hollywood ending. 

 

Old Corypheus isn't as bad or as powerful as some of the bosses I had to defeat in RPGs.. In FF12 you have to beat three different Vayne  Solidors that's helped by a Occurian God that went rogue..



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So, he should beat us because the fight in game was too easy?


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So, he should beat us because the fight in game was too easy?

 

Yes 


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By the time the Inquisitor faces Cory, he's weak and pathetic. Everything he's tried to do has failed. So in one last desperate attempt to stop the Inquisitor, he again fails. He's just a punk talking smack to my Inquisitor. Even his pet is a joke. A couple of spells or slices and the pet is dealt with. If anything, I wanted my Inquisitor to take the power for herself to rule Thedas and have the Coryclown by her side just to see how to use that power. hahaha



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The DAII Legacy final boss fight which involved him was much harder than the Inquisition's final boss fight. More examples that Elemental Magic trumps Red Lyrium.


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Yes 

Okay. I wanted to make sure I was reading it right.


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Patricia08,Then it wouldn't be a true RPG where good conquers evil and saves the world.. I killed many baddies and bosses since Final Fantasy 1 and numerous baddies in D&D..Its the nature of the beast to kill the big boss and become a hero. Think of it as a perfect Hollywood ending. 

 

I know but it is just what i saw him doing to the earth in that cutscene he could just crush us so easily 


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The DAII Legacy final boss fight which involved him was much harder than the Inquisition's final boss fight. More examples that Elemental Magic trumps Red Lyrium.

 

Well i have not played DA 2 yet i did not know of course that he was in that game as well 


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By the time the Inquisitor faces Cory, he's weak and pathetic. Everything he's tried to do has failed. So in one last desperate attempt to stop the Inquisitor, he again fails. He's just a punk talking smack to my Inquisitor. Even his pet is a joke. A couple of spells or slices and the pet is dealt with. If anything, I wanted my Inquisitor to take the power for herself to rule Thedas and have the Coryclown by her side just to see how to use that power. hahaha

 

Maybe in your game but not in my game what i saw was certainly not pathetic and weak at least not in the cutscene where he moves the earth the final battle in game was weak and pathetic.

 

And to have that Coryclown beside me i can go with that his leg chained to the wall   ;)  


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Okay. I wanted to make sure I was reading it right.

 

And ?


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Well obviously he wasn't TOO powerful if we beat him?

 

No but that is just the game off course we win but we should not have won this one 


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And ?

And what? That was it.


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And what? That was it.

 

Okay i just thought there was more to come but i was obviously wrong sorry   ;)


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Well obviously he wasn't TOO powerful if we beat him?

Didn't you understand that if he lost it is because Bioware made a contrived  deus ex machina  to disrupt his immortality?


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Play In Hushed Whispers. Corypheus wins there. :P

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I usually defeat Hakkon first and then return to Skyhold to deal with Cory. At that point it feels like it's just another would-be god my Inquisitor has to deal with. He's so ridiculously easy to defeat when you're at level 27. But what can you expect from a Tevinter magister? I do like it how he begs Dumat for help in the end, and the only answer he gets - silence. It's easy boss fight but I still like the ending itself. The Inquisitor is at the height of their power at that moment.

 

And no, I don't think Corypheus should win. Despite all his talk he is just a very old human or darkspawn (or both). Without the orb or his dragon he's nothing compared to Inquisitor who drank from the Well of Sorrows and still has the anchor.



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Patricia08,Then it wouldn't be a true RPG where good conquers evil and saves the world..

RPG's aren't defined by good conquering evil and the protagonist being the hero. That's just a convention and the industry tends to make those stories because many people like them.

 

Apart from that, I think Patricia08 has a point. That we won against Corypheus without extra means, just by our own fighting skills and those of our team, fighting on ground of our antagonist's choosing, that's extremely implausible. Implausible things tend to happen in such stories and never more often than in the boss fight, but I find that unsatisfactory. I'd rather have a more plausible setup.

 

One of the problems is that the writers appear to think the story needs a personal confrontation ending with a physical fight. That's a very odd strategy against something like Corypheus, one I'd rather avoid as a rule. I guess the convention that a game must have a boss fight is too powerful. I hate boss fights. They never satisfy. Either they're too easy to be believable (DAI) or too convoluted in their mechanics to be fun (DA2 Legacy). ME3 did this better: you spent much of the game supporting the construction of a superweapon with your efforts, and in the end you just push the button (no matter how unsatisfactory other parts of the scenario were, this aspect worked fine for me). That's the way to go against beings like Corypheus, who should really curpstomp you in any personal confrontation.


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I usually defeat Hakkon first and then return to Skyhold to deal with Cory. At that point it feels like it's just another would-be god my Inquisitor has to deal with. He's so ridiculously easy to defeat when you're at level 27. But what can you expect from a Tevinter magister? I do like it how he begs Dumat for help in the end, and the only answer he gets - silence. It's easy boss fight but I still like the ending itself. The Inquisitor is at the height of their power at that moment.

 

And no, I don't think Corypheus should win. Despite all his talk he is just a very old human or darkspawn (or both). Without the orb or his dragon he's nothing compared to Inquisitor who drank from the Well of Sorrows and still has the anchor.

 

And you are okay with that that he is so ridiculously easy to defeat ? 


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