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[Revan Reborn]

As many should know by now, the gaming media is reporting that MEA will release during EA's fiscal fourth quarter (January-March 2017):

 

http://www.gamespot....=GSS-05-10aaa0a

 

While many might not perceive this as a "big deal," such a minor delay is not enough time to resolve major issues in development. At best, they might be able to polish and resolve a few minor bugs, assuming others do not crop up. It seems BioWare isn't comfortable with where the game is at and EA is pushing the title as far back as they can within its fiscal year.

 

What's even worse about this situation is we literally know next to nothing about this game. Unless it has a big showing at E3 this year, or even Comic Con or N7 Day, this may spell bad news for MEA in terms of development woes. This isn't the first game BioWare has delayed either.

 

Dragon Age Inquisition is the most recent example of a game that was delayed, and I'm not sure its slight delay really made any difference. The game still suffered from issues and bugs at launch in which BioWare had to subsequently patch anyway. If I recall, DAI was only delayed a month, which is absolutely no time to polish or fix anything.

 

I won't go into a thorough list, but there have been many games that saw delays over the years and still had horrible launches. I'm not suggesting MEA will be one of them, but it really makes you wonder with the game having such a long development cycle and nothing to show for it.

 

This game has been in development far longer than any other BioWare game. It will have been in development longer than SWTOR, and that was the most ambitious MMO ever made. What exactly is going on with Andromeda and how are we supposed to feel about all this secrecy and these delays?

 

Maybe MEA is just too ambitious for its own good, like DAI. I don't even want to consider how that could affect all of the various systems in the game in terms of quality. I guess we'll just have to hope for something spectacular at E3... Here's hoping for something positive about all of this.

[Kantr]

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DA:I was supposed to be a 2013 release, then it was pushed to october 2014 and then it had that push to november.

[CronoDragoon]

We already know it's going to have a big showing at E3.

Chillax

[Revan Reborn]

DA:I was supposed to be a 2013 release, then it was pushed to october 2014 and then it had that push to november.

This is true, however the first delay was due to BioWare stating they were going to include other races to play as other than human. The delay I'm referring to just happened haphazardly without much of an explanation, much like what just happened with MEA.

 

We already know it's going to have a big showing at E3.

Chillax

No, we don't. We can hope it will be at E3, but with this most recent delay, who knows? We could very well get another in-game trailer of nothing. It's ironic we had already seen various demos of DAI a year in advance of its actual release. We've seen no gameplay of MEA at all. It's a little troubling. We can hope for the best, but a development cycle this long spells out development woes and BioWare being in over its head.

[CronoDragoon]

No, we don't. We can hope it will be at E3, but with this most recent delay, who knows?

People who have actually talked with people in BioWare? Well-known BioWare insider Shinobi said that we were getting an "Andromeda information blowout" at the recently announced EA show which will run around the same time as E3.

No, it's not 100% certain, but as some dude named Elrond said, nothing is.

[LightningPoodle]

Remember, The Witcher 3* was pushed back a few times and yet, the game was still awesome, still what CDPR promised, and was still overall a well made game, and that was simply because they had the extra time to make all of those finishing touches. Delays do not always spell disaster.

 

*Sorry, not sorry. 

[United Servo Academy Choir]

I would have thought that everyone would rightly assume that a Q4 2016 release means a Q1 2017 release.

 

That said, I'm not unduly worried, and I'm glad they took their time.

[Revan Reborn]

People who have actually talked with people in BioWare? Well-known BioWare insider Shinobi said that we were getting an "Andromeda information blowout" at the recently announced EA show which will run around the same time as E3.

No, it's not 100% certain, but as some dude named Elrond said, nothing is.

That means nothing to me. Unless BioWare explicitly states they are going to have a "information blowout," I will keep my expectations in check. Unconfirmed rumors, no matter how credible the "insider" may be is just that: unconfirmed rumors. We will likely see something from MEA as it's unlikely to be showcased at E3 2017, unless it's delayed again. Either way, it's going to have to be big whatever BioWare ends up doing.

[mrjack]

I honestly wonder what you get out of making a "The sky is falling" thread. Are you addicted to disaster movies and just love to watch the carnage? Are you hoping BW will do something to reassure you that all is well?

 

You have no facts and no evidence that anything is wrong. A delay that could amount to a month (Dec-Jan) is no big deal and is probably more to do with internal finance reports and whatnot and making the quarterly reports look good by putting a heavy hitter in an historically dry spell.

[Revan Reborn]

Remember, The Witcher 3* was pushed back a few times and yet, the game was still awesome, still what CDPR promised, and was still overall a well made game, and that was simply because they had the extra time to make all of those finishing touches. Delays do not always spell disaster.

 

*Sorry, not sorry. 

Except TW3 was unoptimized and buggy at launch. It took several months of CDPR polishing and patching before the game was truly working as intended. Its performance is absolutely spectacular now, but don't fool yourself into believing it was great at release. That is revisionist history and wearing rose-colored glasses. I played the game at launch. I know it was far from perfect. It wasn't the disaster Batman Arkham Knight was, which was also delayed several times, but TW3 wasn't perfect either.

 

I would have thought that everyone would rightly assume that a Q4 2016 release means a Q1 2017 release.

 

That said, I'm not unduly worried, and I'm glad they took their time.

This seems less of a "taking their time" and more of BioWare trying to make this game playable and EA pushing it back as far as they can without going into the next fiscal year. The only reason BioWare is delaying this game is because they don't believe it would be in good condition for Holiday 2016, which is absolutely insane considering how far away we are from Holiday 2016. They are giving themselves an entire full year to still finish this game. That doesn't exactly strike confidence when this game has been in development for so long already.

[Obliviousmiss]

As torturous as it is to be starving with little to no food, I'm favoring EA's handling of MEA way better than Sony handling Uncharted 4. U4 was shown at E3 2013 for hell's sake. Guarantee it'll be a knockout, since Naughty Dog are perfectionists and demand GOTY quality or nothing. However, it was a cover feature on gameinformer in February of 2015, giving out a lot of details. it has suffered from it's 5th delay only last night. 

 

Like previous people have stated, EA and BW staying mum on the details until it's near completion is smarter in my book. 

[pdusen]

I honestly wonder what you get out of making a "The sky is falling" thread. Are you addicted to disaster movies and just love to watch the carnage? Are you hoping BW will do something to reassure you that all is well?

 

You have no facts and no evidence that anything is wrong. A delay that could amount to a month (Dec-Jan) is no big deal and is probably more to do with internal finance reports and whatnot and making the quarterly reports look good by putting a heavy hitter in an historically dry spell.

 

Ugh, this. Threads like this disgust me.

[themikefest]

I'm not too worried. Would I like to hear more information about the game? Sure. But its not enough for me to lose any sleep.

[Revan Reborn]

I honestly wonder what you get out of making a "The sky is falling threads". Are you addicted to disaster movies and just love to watch the carnage? Are you hoping BW will do something to reassure you that all is well?

 

You have no facts and no evidence that anything is wrong. A delay that could amount to a month (Dec-Jan) is no big deal and is probably more to do with internal finance reports and whatnot and making the quarterly reports look good by putting a heavy hitter in an historically dry spell.

Perhaps you just like to remain in the dark and just hope everything is rainbows and butterflies. I actually understand how game development works and have seen far too many titles receive delays and are still absolute disasters at release. 2015 was the year of delayed games from 2014 and many of them still had a large variety of problems when they launched. Remember how DAI was delayed for more than a year and it still was buggy and had issues at launch?

 

I don't need "facts" or "evidence" to know a game that wasn't coming out anytime soon and is receiving another delay is having development issues. It's common sense. EA is pushing the release date as far back as they can within the fiscal year MEA was supposed to release. BioWare is struggling and they are hopeful another three months will be enough to fix whatever issues they are having. Contrary to popular belief, just because a game is in development for a long time and receives multiple delays doesn't mean it will have a great launch.

 

You realize EA is going to take a financial hit because MEA is no longer coming out in its 3rd fiscal quarter? This is not any benefit or a boost in terms of their financial reports. To the contrary, EA could very well lose a lot of money as the holiday quarter is the most important quarter for sales and revenue. The fact that MEA has been pushed outside of that is not a good sign and EA is already anticipating a financial hit.

[LightningPoodle]

Except TW3 was unoptimized and buggy at launch. It took several months of CDPR polishing and patching before the game was truly working as intended. Its performance is absolutely spectacular now, but don't fool yourself into believing it was great at release. That is revisionist history and wearing rose-colored glasses. I played the game at launch. I know it was far from perfect. It wasn't the disaster Batman Arkham Knight was, which was also delayed several times, but TW3 wasn't perfect either.

 

Wasn't buggy as hell for me, nor a lot of other people. In fact, I think in the entirety of the game, the only bugs I found were side quest related. So I will fool myself into believing it, because it is true for me.

[LinksOcarina]

That means nothing to me. Unless BioWare explicitly states they are going to have a "information blowout," I will keep my expectations in check. Unconfirmed rumors, no matter how credible the "insider" may be is just that: unconfirmed rumors. We will likely see something from MEA as it's unlikely to be showcased at E3 2017, unless it's delayed again. Either way, it's going to have to be big whatever BioWare ends up doing.

 

You honestly should keep your expectations in check. I suspect this is why they have not revealed anything yet.

 

They don't want too much hype, and I bet it has little to do with quality of the game, more to do with past perceptions of expectation. 

[Revan Reborn]

As torturous as it is to be starving with little to no food, I'm favoring EA's handling of MEA way better than Sony handling Uncharted 4. U4 was shown at E3 2013 for hell's sake. Guarantee it'll be a knockout, since Naughty Dog are perfectionists and demand GOTY quality or nothing. However, it was a cover feature on gameinformer in February of 2015, giving out a lot of details. it has suffered from it's 5th delay only last night. 

 

Like previous people have stated, EA and BW staying mum on the details until it's near completion is smarter in my book. 

EA isn't doing this out of the kindness of their hearts. They will take a financial hit because MEA is not coming out in their 3rd fiscal quarter. The fact BioWare wasn't confident in the Holiday 2016 release when it's show far away should give you an indication that the game is nowhere ready for release.

 

At least Uncharted 4 is coming out this year. If it was shown at E3 2013, that's less than three years as it's coming in May of this year now? MEA was first shown at E3 2014 and we are hoping it doesn't receive anymore delays. Things could change, especially when games get closer to their scheduled release dates.

 

We won't know anything for sure until we see some gameplay and see what condition the build is in. Until then, I'm not going to be ignorantly optimistic just hoping for the best. I've been down this road far too many times. It rarely ever works out for the best.

[CronoDragoon]

That means nothing to me. Unless BioWare explicitly states they are going to have a "information blowout," I will keep my expectations in check. Unconfirmed rumors, no matter how credible the "insider" may be is just that: unconfirmed rumors. We will likely see something from MEA as it's unlikely to be showcased at E3 2017, unless it's delayed again. Either way, it's going to have to be big whatever BioWare ends up doing.

You aren't keeping your expectations in check. You are, in fact, wildly speculating. And assuming you understand how game development works because sometimes games are delayed and then end up a mess, while ignoring all the games that are delayed and end up fine.

[AlanC9]

 Dragon Age Inquisition is the most recent example of a game that was delayed, and I'm not sure its slight delay really made any difference. The game still suffered from issues and bugs at launch in which BioWare had to subsequently patch anyway. If I recall, DAI was only delayed a month, which is absolutely no time to polish or fix anything.

Didn't some interesting content get into DAI because of the delay?

Anyway, what's your argument? The ME:A delay is bad because it isn't long enough?

[Revan Reborn]

You honestly should keep your expectations in check. I suspect this is why they have not revealed anything yet.

 

They don't want too much hype, and I bet it has little to do with quality of the game, more to do with past perceptions of expectation. 

I'm very skeptical at this point. Believe me. BioWare is going to have to do something spectacular at E3 to convince me MEA is going to be ready for a Q1 2017 release window. Otherwise, it seems BioWare Montreal may be in over their heads. It wouldn't be too surprising as this is their first project where they are the principal developer.

[N7Jamaican]

We are three months away from a massive information dump.  I believe at this EA Play, we will see Mass Effect Andromeda being shown off in all of its glory.  Our long awaited gameplay footage, multiplayer information, classes, etc.  101 days people!

 

I don't expect Mass Effect Andromeda to be at E3 though, or if they are, in some small capacity.

[Revan Reborn]

You aren't keeping your expectations in check. You are, in fact, wildly speculating. And assuming you understand how game development works because sometimes games are delayed and then end up a mess, while ignoring all the games that are delayed and end up fine.

If you want to call "wildly speculating" as using a plethora of other games that also received consistent delays to their detriment, then yes. As I stated, very few games that are delayed tend to benefit from it. The only company this is probably absolutely true all the time is Nintendo. Otherwise, there are far more examples of games that receive delays that end up being disasters at launch. Some of the most famous games that were delayed and turned out to be terrible due to not being ready were Batman Arkham Knight, Too Human, Watch_Dogs, and Assassin's Creed Unity just to name a few.

 

Didn't some interesting content get into DAI because of the delay?

Anyway, what's your argument? The ME:A delay is bad because it isn't long enough?

DAI was delayed a year so that BioWare could add races other than human to play. It was delayed another month for "polishing."

 

I'm arguing that a few month delay isn't going to be enough time to resolve anything, especially if it's major development issues. My point is they have given themselves an entire year to finish this game and have still showed nothing. That means BioWare is not comfortable with the current status of the game and does not believe it is in a condition to be viewed by the public.

[Akrabra]

Glass half empty as usual, Revan Reborn?

[Revan Reborn]

We are three months away from a massive information dump.  I believe at this EA Play, we will see Mass Effect Andromeda being shown off in all of its glory.  Our long awaited gameplay footage, multiplayer information, classes, etc.  101 days people!

 

I don't expect Mass Effect Andromeda to be at E3 though, or if they are, in some small capacity.

When I meant E3, I'm talking about the event happening across the street that EA is hosting outside of E3. EA, to my knowledge, is also still having an E3 press conference. They just moved across the street so that their venue would be open to the public and not just the press. Hopefully we'll get plenty of news, but we don't know for sure and we'll have to wait until June to find out.

[N7Jamaican]

We don't know if there's any major development issues.  No one in this forum has insider information over any other forum user in regards to game (aside from actual BioWare Employees).  Delays don't necessarily mean, "issues," could mean "polishing," as well.