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[Revan Reborn]

Why do you need "development is fine." messages? Why does it matter if you get that? It could be a lie anyway. If MEA never sees the light of day and they never admit it, oh well. It's not like you gave them any money. So you lose nothing.  Play other games, read a book, et al and when/if they ever decide to release it, then expect some sort of communication. 

If they lie then we can sue. We hold BioWare and EA accountable for their decisions. If they make a product that in no way represents what they promoted, investors and consumers would have standing to sue EA for a lot of money.

 

You don't understand how corporations work. EA is a publicly-traded corporation. Most of their investors are average people who are likely also consumers. This game is being made and will be released because money is on the line and millions have already been invested into the project. There will never be a time when "MEA never sees the light of day and they never admit it, oh well."

[Akrabra]

If they lie then we can sue. We hold BioWare and EA accountable for their decisions. If they make a product that in no way represents what they promoted, investors and consumers would have standing to sue EA for a lot of money.

 

You don't understand how corporations work. EA is a publicly-traded corporation. Most of their investors are average people who are likely also consumers. This game is being made and will be released because money is on the line and millions have already been invested into the project. There will never be a time when "MEA never sees the light of day and they never admit it, oh well."

Why would we want to sue them? Like really, why? As mention earlier games are a luxury item, you can buy it or not buy it. Its not really your life at stake here, just a game. 

[Prince Enigmatic]

Why would we want to sue them? Like really, why? As mention earlier games are a luxury item, you can buy it or not buy it. Its not really your life at stake here, just a game. 

 

Didn't one fan sue, or at least make a misplaced complaint to some organisation about ME3's endings? This sort of thing can happen. 

[Sylvius the Mad]

1. Err... the whole "not regenerating health" thing was the biggest pain in the ass in DAI.

Regenerating health never appeared in a BioWare game prior to ME1 and DAO. And it was a terrible idea when it did.

I was very happy to see it go away.

2. As for the tactical camera... no just no.

Could it have been even better? Absolutely. But it was still BioWare's best camera.

[Sylvius the Mad]

You really consider DA I's camera tactical? Even I know you have better taste than that, but I'll leave it at that.

It gave us more vision of the battlefield than anything since the infinity engine games.

We could scout ahead, look around corners, and see things at range without having the camera tied to a character.

Do you honestly think any previous BioWare game had a better camera? DAO's camera was good, but it could only roam when it was pointing down. ME, KotOR, and NWN always had the camera tied to a character. DAI's camera is demonstrably superior (and with KBM it was pretty easy to control).

[Lady Artifice]

Sue them. Over a video game.

 

This place is insane.

[pdusen]

That Pre-alpha that they showed off and was leaked looked great. Then they changed everything.

Only if by everything you mean almost nothing.

[Heathen Oxman]

Regenerating health never appeared in a BioWare game prior to ME1 and DAO. And it was a terrible idea when it did.

I was very happy to see it go away.
Could it have been even better? Absolutely. But it was still BioWare's best camera.

 

Regenerating health was just replaced with having to fast travel back to camp every time you ran out of pots.

 

Not a huge improvement.

[FKA_Servo]

Sue them. Over a video game.

 

This place is insane.

 

Don't forget complaining to the better business bureau and claiming, apparently without irony, that a videogame publisher and developer are actually the worst company in a reality that also hosts Amazon and Bank of America.

 

My personal headcanon here is that the OP started this particular thread with certain goals in mind, and that it has met and exceeded those goals.

 

Because it can't possibly have been intended seriously or sincerely, right?

[pdusen]

Regenerating health was just replaced with having to fast travel back to camp every time you ran out of pots.

Not a huge improvement.

It was also replaced with much more reasonable and less spikey enemy damage, which WAS a huge improvement.

[goishen]

Sue them. Over a video game.

 

This place is insane.

 

 

I've thought about suing a company over their video game before.  Then, once the blood rage had settled, I realized what it would look like in court. 

 

"Yah, hi judge, I wanna sue them over this game.  It's not as fun as I thought it would be."

 

*bursts out with laughter until it completely overwhelms him*

 

"Case dismissed."

[Andrew Lucas]

Sue them. Over a video game.

 

This place is insane.

 

Some people really want their romances already.

[UpUpAway]

If they lie then we can sue. We hold BioWare and EA accountable for their decisions. If they make a product that in no way represents what they promoted, investors and consumers would have standing to sue EA for a lot of money.

 

You don't understand how corporations work. EA is a publicly-traded corporation. Most of their investors are average people who are likely also consumers. This game is being made and will be released because money is on the line and millions have already been invested into the project. There will never be a time when "MEA never sees the light of day and they never admit it, oh well."

 

Before you get too carried away with suing them... better brush up a bit on Canadian law vs. American law.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

If they lie then we can sue. We hold BioWare and EA accountable for their decisions. If they make a product that in no way represents what they promoted, investors and consumers would have standing to sue EA for a lot of money.

 

You don't understand how corporations work. EA is a publicly-traded corporation. Most of their investors are average people who are likely also consumers. This game is being made and will be released because money is on the line and millions have already been invested into the project. There will never be a time when "MEA never sees the light of day and they never admit it, oh well."

 

I wouldn't not on those grounds (and because I'm not a greedy enough bastard) because every piece of media I own has had made promises and doesn't represent what I was I thought it was letdown and just getting what I was told or just being let down by a piece of entertainment is not the same as being poised by bad food, get hurt or killed by faulty car parts. 

 

Oh you could probably sue them sure on those grounds, but chances are that, in the USA at least, you would lose because it's a waste of everyone time and major multi-national companies run everything including the courts.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Regenerating health was just replaced with having to fast travel back to camp every time you ran out of pots.

Not a huge improvement.

Or just not taking damage, which was always my objective prior to DAO.

[vanek2112]

They could just have regenerating health as a toggle.  A lot of people like it and a lot don't.  Those who don't can turn it off.  It's not like we are playing an MMO where rules have to be consistent for everyone who plays.

[FKA_Servo]

They could just have regenerating health as a toggle.  A lot of people like it and a lot don't.  Those who don't can turn it off.  It's not like we are playing an MMO where rules have to be consistent for everyone who plays.

 

I can count on one hand the number of instances where a "toggle" of any sort is a good idea.

 

In any case, this is what modding is for.

[Sylvius the Mad]

They could just have regenerating health as a toggle. A lot of people like it and a lot don't. Those who don't can turn it off. It's not like we are playing an MMO where rules have to be consistent for everyone who plays.

They tried that with friendly fire, but in doing so they assembled mechanics that were completely incompatible with friendly fire. When they balance the game, they're going to do it for one setting or the other.

[Giantdeathrobot]

Before you get too carried away with suing them... better brush up a bit on Canadian law vs. American law.

 

Yep. Courts here are far less tolerant of frivilous lawsuits than most American ones. ''muh video game wasn't as good as I wanted!'' will get you laughed out of the courtroom, if you even manage to get inside in the first place.

[Lady Artifice]

Some people really want their romances already.

 

Indeed. I'm one of them. There are all kinds of things I'm anxious to see in this game. That doesn't equate, however, to a belief that I have legal right to them.

[Quarian Master Race]

Sue them. Over a video game.

 

This place is insane.

Remember, some idiots tried to file false advertising suits to the FTC over butthurt at ME3's ending. It went as predictably as any reasonable person would imagine.

[rocklikeafool]

Yep. Courts here are far less tolerant of frivilous lawsuits than most American ones. ''muh video game wasn't as good as I wanted!'' will get you laughed out of the courtroom, if you even manage to get inside in the first place.

Even American courts will laugh at you for a lawsuit like that. 

 

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You don't understand how corporations work. EA is a publicly-traded corporation. Most of their investors are average people who are likely also consumers. This game is being made and will be released because money is on the line and millions have already been invested into the project. There will never be a time when "MEA never sees the light of day and they never admit it, oh well."

You don't understand what an investor wants. They want to hear that they are gaining more money, due to their investment. If EA stock still goes up but MEA never sees the light of day, then the investors probably won't care at all. 

Now, will Bioware fans care? Of course. But that wasn't the point you tried to make.

And, yes, I'm fully aware it's possible to be both an investor and a Bioware fan. 

[Kantr]

Only if by everything you mean almost nothing.

You mean the decisions that would have an impact and stuff like that?

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

If they lie then we can sue. We hold BioWare and EA accountable for their decisions. If they make a product that in no way represents what they promoted, investors and consumers would have standing to sue EA for a lot of money.

You'd get laughed out of court but okay sure I guess

[CrimsonN7]

Sue them. Over a video game.
 
This place is insane.

You don't have to be insane to post here... but it helps.