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[Spectr61]

So I take it we're still predicting the downfall of ME:A because a couple people have left and obviously nobody else on the planet could do the same job competently as those couple of people?
 
and talking about how obviously something is wrong at BioWare because a couple of people quit their jobs in an industry that has a high turnover rate.

Not at all.

Change is to be expected, and doesn't mean ill or good. I have hope that that the team, whoever is on it, will deliver a great product.

I was wondering however, if anyone knows what Chris L'Etoile is working on these days, if he is freelancing, or who he is working for. I enjoyed the work he did in ME1 & 2.

[Tela_Vasir]

In 2015, he joined Mark Media to work on Shuyan the Kung Fu Princess.  I don't know where he went after that or even if he's still in the industry. 

[kalikilic]

DA:I was supposed to be a 2013 release, then it was pushed to october 2014 and then it had that push to november.

alot of good that delay did for PC gamers.

 

amirite?

[kalikilic]

I'm not too worried. Would I like to hear more information about the game? Sure. But its not enough for me to lose any sleep.

+1

 

hearing news about the game can go either way as well. 

 

no news is good news as long as it means that it will benefit the real customers at the end of the day.

 

us.

[Killdren88]

I'm not worried to be honest. Afterall it can't possibly get any worse after the last game.

[TheChosenOne]

I'm not worried to be honest. Afterall it can't possibly get any worse after the last game.

 

The BSN disagree with you :/

[ChessEffect]

The only factor I take into to consideration in speculating on ME:A is how bad DA:I MP was. Remember, this was supposed to be the brand new awesome MP based on ME3 MP, and it was a complete pile of horse crap. What evidence is there to suggest that that ME:A will be any better?

[Killroy]

The only factor I take into to consideration in speculating on ME:A is how bad DA:I MP was. Remember, this was supposed to be the brand new awesome MP based on ME3 MP, and it was a complete pile of horse crap. What evidence is there to suggest that that ME:A will be any better?

 

The fact that MEA is being made by the team that developed the ME3 MP?

[ChessEffect]

That's what they said about DA:I MP.

[Nitrocuban]

The fact that MEA is being made by the team that developed the ME3 MP?

They also did ME3's Omega DLC which makes me worry a lot about the SP part of MEA actually.

[pdusen]

The only factor I take into to consideration in speculating on ME:A is how bad DA:I MP was. Remember, this was supposed to be the brand new awesome MP based on ME3 MP, and it was a complete pile of horse crap. What evidence is there to suggest that that ME:A will be any better?

 

I don't see any evidence anywhere that DA:I's MP was supposed to be anything like ME3's, beyond being cooperative.

[goishen]

The only factor I take into to consideration in speculating on ME:A is how bad DA:I MP was. Remember, this was supposed to be the brand new awesome MP based on ME3 MP, and it was a complete pile of horse crap. What evidence is there to suggest that that ME:A will be any better?

 

 

DA and ME are two totally different fantasies.  First of all, DA is high fantasy.  You know, dwarves, elves, dragons.  That sort of thing.  ME, while it still has some high fantasy elements in it (turians, asari, krogans, etc) is much more, or at least plays much more, of an urban fantasy.  DAI could have been fun if they had included dragons from the get go.  I mean, it is called Dragon Age, after all.

 

You can't compare the two, high fantasy and urban fantasy, number one.  Or at least not apples to apples.  And number two, it is much easier to introduce a boss (banshees, atlases, praetorions, etc) if they are already included.  Rather than feeling tacked on.  I had a blast taking down a dragon in DAI, too bad they felt the need to pigeonhoile it.

[holdenagincourt]

I don't see any evidence anywhere that DA:I's MP was supposed to be anything like ME3's, beyond being cooperative.

 

The comparison isn't exact by any means, but the relevant point isn't the two MPs being "like" each other, but DAMP being at least at a similar level of quality as ME3MP. And ME3MP wasn't outstanding early on, but it had the adequate dev engagement and support to make it really shine by the end, something DAMP never had. So much about DAMP was just all wrong, and it's critical that BioWare learns from the experience.

[Eckswhyzed]

They also did ME3's Omega DLC which makes me worry a lot about the SP part of MEA actually.

Oddly enough, that makes me optimistic about ME:A actually. Being a fairly short side-story, I can look past the perfunctory nature of Omega's story and find some high points. Namely a class-exclusive interrupt (hooray for recognition), and some very well-designed environments and interesting combat.
 

The comparison isn't exact by any means, but the relevant point isn't the two MPs being "like" each other, but DAMP being at least at a similar level of quality as ME3MP. And ME3MP wasn't outstanding early on, but it had the adequate dev engagement and support to make it really shine by the end, something DAMP never had. So much about DAMP was just all wrong, and it's critical that BioWare learns from the experience.

I'm still completely baffled by some of the design blunders that went into DA:I multiplayer. Two that come to mind are the completely baffling way armour works (giving a very weird difficulty curve) and the trainwreck of a promotions system that not only encourages grinding but in fact gives accelerating returns for said grinding. Oh, and the random loot that presents some of the worst value microtransactions I've ever seen.

[Giantdeathrobot]

The culture of Quebec is quite different as well.  A major example would be the lawsuit the Quebec government had with major retailers such as Walmart, BestBuy, Costco, and others.  The government was suing them because the company names didn't have a French translation and wanted them to create a new name in French that would describe what they would sell.  There are other things as well, but the language divide is pretty severe. There is always talk by some politician about Quebec seperating from Canada as well, but at least over the years public support has waned for that.

 

That's a smokescreen. You can work and shop in Montreal while speaking solely english very well, sure some people only speak french or don't speak an illustrious english but no sane business in that city is entirely unilingual (due to the important english-speaking population and prominence of tourism), and the vast majority of educated people know english enough to speak it, even if with a heavy accent and merely passable vocabulary.  The language barrier is not that bad, and whatever  pointless antics our government went in trying to apply bill 101 to everything are pretty much dropped today.

 

There's a reason so many game development, tech studios and film/CGI companies set up shop here. They get huge benefits from the government, and while being an english speaker would make life more difficult in most small towns in Québec, Montreal is pretty much a bilingual city.

[Killroy]

That's what they said about DA:I MP.

Who said that? The Dragon Age MP wasn't made by the MEA team. They were making MEA.

[Sanunes]

That's a smokescreen. You can work and shop in Montreal while speaking solely english very well, sure some people only speak french or don't speak an illustrious english but no sane business in that city is entirely unilingual (due to the important english-speaking population and prominence of tourism), and the vast majority of educated people know english enough to speak it, even if with a heavy accent and merely passable vocabulary.  The language barrier is not that bad, and whatever  pointless antics our government went in trying to apply bill 101 to everything are pretty much dropped today.

 

There's a reason so many game development, tech studios and film/CGI companies set up shop here. They get huge benefits from the government, and while being an english speaker would make life more difficult in most small towns in Québec, Montreal is pretty much a bilingual city.

 

You are right, but I am talking about the province as a whole. Quebec City isn't very welcoming to English speakers either.

[Giantdeathrobot]

You are right, but I am talking about the province as a whole. Quebec City isn't very welcoming to English speakers either.

 

And apart from the states bordering Québec (and even then), all of the US aren't welcoming to someone who only speaks french.

 

I mean, at some point, one can't exactly blame people for speaking a different language.

[In Exile]

You are right, but I am talking about the province as a whole. Quebec City isn't very welcoming to English speakers either.

Quebec City isn't Montreal, however. Nor is rural Quebec. Which parts aren't per se welcoming to French speakers either, at least, if you're not a native Quebecois French speaker in my experience.

[UpUpAway95]

Quebec City isn't Montreal, however. Nor is rural Quebec. Which parts aren't per se welcoming to French speakers either, at least, if you're not a native Quebecois French speaker in my experience.

 

Whenever I have visited different areas of Quebec, I have generally felt very welcomed despite not being able to speak French.  I have had friends living in Montreal that have felt just fine with being an English speaker there and others who found it more difficult.  A lot depends on the individual.  I also know of individuals who found it great working in Austin and others that hated it.  People are people... and from time to time people change jobs, move to new places, etc.

 

There is simply no indication as to why these staff members left Bioware.  They did not state their reasons for leaving, so it's all just rampant speculation and, IMO, it's speculation that got waayy out of hand about 20 pages ago.

[In Exile]

Whenever I have visited different areas of Quebec, I have generally felt very welcomed despite not being able to speak French.  I have had friends living in Montreal that have felt just fine with being an English speaker there and others who found it more difficult.  A lot depends on the individual.  I also know of individuals who found it great working in Austin and others that hated it.  People are people... and from time to time people change jobs, move to new places, etc.

 

There is simply no indication as to why these staff members left Bioware.  They did not state their reasons for leaving, so it's all just rampant speculation and, IMO, it's speculation that got waayy out of hand about 20 pages ago.

 

I do speak French, and I find that the reception to my spoken French to be quite different from the reception to my spoken English, outside of Montreal. In Montreal it's pretty unique, because I don't per se ever have to speak French and it makes sense for someone to just switch to their most fluent language. 

[Giantdeathrobot]

I do speak French, and I find that the reception to my spoken French to be quite different from the reception to my spoken English, outside of Montreal. In Montreal it's pretty unique, because I don't per se ever have to speak French and it makes sense for someone to just switch to their most fluent language. 

 

Wouldn't be surprised if it was similar in most cities that are heavily bilingual, such as some near the US-Mexico border or in India.

 

Anyway, anyone who wants to get somewhere in Montreal needs to have a grasp of english. And university professors don't shy from giving their classes stuff to read in english even when the entire rest of the course happens in french. It is assumed that you can work in the language, and english courses are encouraged (when not mandatory) in high school. You won't find many that cannot speak english; some might refuse because of misplaced provincialism, but there are idiots everywhere.

[UpUpAway95]

I do speak French, and I find that the reception to my spoken French to be quite different from the reception to my spoken English, outside of Montreal. In Montreal it's pretty unique, because I don't per se ever have to speak French and it makes sense for someone to just switch to their most fluent language. 

 

All I'm saying is that, contrary to all the negative publicity I heard before visiting Quebec, I was quite pleasantly treated throughout the province.

 

As for living there, I never have but I know of people who have lived in Montreal... some liked it and some didn't (as it is with any other "foreign" place friends of mine have gone to work and live).  Since the individuals who left Bioware haven't indicated to anyone why they left... it's still just more speculation on top of speculation that it had anything to do with language issues.

[In Exile]

All I'm saying is that, contrary to all the negative publicity I heard before visiting Quebec, I was quite pleasantly treated throughout the province.

 

As for living there, I never have but I know of people who have lived in Montreal... some liked it and some didn't (as it is with any other "foreign" place friends of mine have gone to work and live).  Since the individuals who left Bioware haven't indicated to anyone why they left... it's still just more speculation on top of speculation that it had anything to do with language issues.

 

Oh, Quebec is really pleasant. I just meant to say that outside of Montreal you find a lot of diversity of attitudes towards spoken French by non-Quebecois. Feeling unwelcome can have more to do with than just the language barrier, but culture shock and cultural differences.

[Buster Gonad]

Cant wait for this to come out !