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[Khrystyn]

Yep. Too bad she or Emily Wing wasn't on the ship instead of whats her face

 

Emily Wong would have been my choice.

[SporkFu]

I think the flap was designed specifically to mess with us, sparking discussions about how it's supposed to actually fit around the collar.

Mission accomplished, heh.

[RoboticWater]

Just get rid of that flap.
 
ME armors are supposed to be sealed for the vacuum of space and protected against hazards of extreme temperatures,
I don't see the logic in having pieces of fabric dangling out of them.
 
Also, it's kinda ugly.

It probably is sealed though. The flap looks like it's from some (evidently semi-optional) layer of padding between the plate armor and the sealed inner suit. I could live without the flap, but I think it looks kinda slick.
 

Tucked into where? Under the armor? The only way that flap could meet that little square is if the flap is put across the neck(under the chin)

Yes, exactly. I don't see what the problem is with that.
 

Either way, it's a completely pointless feature.

Like I said, it could easily be extra padding. 

[ZipZap2000]

Here's to hoping that Killroy will design armor for an Andromeda N7, post it, and we can all critique it.

It'd be Batarian design with retractable shoulder spikes like Ghost Rider. Whip will be a fire spec. And your armour will come in one of two Optimus Prime colour schemes.

[Andrew Lucas]

Here's to hoping that Killroy will design armor for an Andromeda N7, post it, and we can all critique it.

 

Oh yes - please, that would be perfection, Killroy can do no wrong.

[Heimdall]

What the lore says about the N7s.

Interplanetary Combatives Training (ICT) is the Systems Alliance's premier school for leadership and combat expertise. The Interplanetary Combatives Academy, sometimes called "N-School" or "the villa," recruits officers from every branch of Earth's militaries to partake in grueling courses at Vila Militar in Rio de Janeiro.

Initially, candidates train for more than 20 hours per day, leading small combat teams through hostile terrain with little sleep or food. Trainees who do well are awarded an internal designation of N1 and are invited to return. Subsequent courses - N2 through N6 - are often held off-planet and include instruction in zero-G combat, military free-fall (parachuting), jetpack flight, combat diving, combat instruction, linguistics, and frontline trauma care for human and alien biology.

The highest grade of training, N6, provides actual combat experience in combat zones throughout the galaxy. If the trainee survives these scenarios in "admirable and effective fashion," he or she finally receives the coveted N7 designation. N7 is the only ICT designation that may be worn on field or dress uniforms.

There is little shame in failing an N course - the training is so extreme that even qualifying for N1 elevates an officer to a position of respect. The universal prestige of merely attending the academy helps to restrain trainees from taking excessive risks in pursuit of higher honors.

Although ICT qualification by itself does not guarantee higher rank, those officers who are able to complete the program are typically well suited to senior leadership positions.

So no, there is no such thing as an inexperienced or untested N7 since to even be a N1 requires you to be one of the best.

It says they recruit officers, not that that those offers have a great wealth of experience.

The only training level that requires experience as part of the curriculum is N6, which is probably the best argument against the idea of inexperienced N7s

But hey, maybe we don't start as N7 and get it during the plot, maybe awarded after the first mission!

[Draining Dragon]

I think the flap was designed specifically to mess with us, sparking discussions about how it's supposed to actually fit around the collar.

IT'S A FLAP!

[Akrabra]

IT'S A FLAP!

I can't believe this has been going on for like 4 pages. Entertaining at first, but now its just painful. 

[KaiserShep]

IT'S A FLAP!

 

Fitting, as BSN is often in one.

[Andrew Lucas]

I loved it, adds to the swag factor, you guys are wrong.

[Khrystyn]

ME armors are supposed to be sealed for the vacuum of space and protected against hazards of extreme temperatures,

I don't see the logic in having pieces of fabric dangling out of them.

 

'cuz this N7's location isn't out in space or in a hazardous environment at the moment. Have a little fun! Besides, it's probably just casual attire.

[ZipZap2000]

IT'S A FLAP!

Foreskin.

[Killroy]

Yes, exactly. I don't see what the problem is with that.

You don't see the problem in having bunched up fabric under your chin for no reason whatsoever?

Here's to hoping that Killroy will design armor for an Andromeda N7, post it, and we can all critique it.

I'm no design artist, and the "you can't criticize something unless you can do it better" fallacy is real dumb.

[Ahriman]

I think the flap was designed specifically to mess with us, sparking discussions about how it's supposed to actually fit around the collar. 

Duck Effect?

[Rascoth]

I think the flap was designed specifically to mess with us, sparking discussions about how it's supposed to actually fit around the collar. 

Better this than next romance thread.

[Laughing_Man]

'cuz this N7's location isn't out in space or in a hazardous environment at the moment. Have a little fun! Besides, it's probably just casual attire.

 

It's not casual attire, it's ugly, and it makes no sense.

 

#RemoveTheUglyForeskin

[Hammerstorm]

Initially, candidates train for more than 20 hours per day, leading small combat teams through hostile terrain with little sleep or food. Trainees who do well are awarded an internal designation of N1 and are invited to return. Subsequent courses - N2 through N6 - are often held off-planet and include instruction in zero-G combat, military free-fall (parachuting), jetpack flight, combat diving, combat instruction, linguistics, and frontline trauma care for human and alien biology.

 

 

Apparently my shep sleep through the part about asari, turian and Krogan biology. Wonder how he passed N7.

[SNascimento]

For me, the flap is an attempt to represent there is cloth below the armor. Bioware talked a few times about how they want to make the transition between casual clothes and armor more natural.

So with the flap you can clearly see there is cloth-like layer below the plated armor parts. I believe when they start revelaing how customization will work, this will make more sense, at least from a gameplay point of view. 

[ZipZap2000]

Khalisah on the Normandy would have been kinda cool. I wonder if she'd have been more involved, like, at various times throughout the game all the different crewmembers would come up to Shep and say things like, "listen, commander, you've got to get rid of that reporter!"

I wont lie. 


I'd let Khalisah be every bit of the angry, controlling, manipulative, dominating, she devil she wants to be if i had my chance with her on the Normandy. Then sushi.

[Khrystyn]

I'm no design artist, and the "you can't criticize something unless you can do it better" fallacy is real dumb.

 

Not my point. Critique is fine. Constructive critique is even better. Offering suggestions for improvement is great. I didn't mean one can't criticize at all. Far from it!  I just think that when a person is so excessively critical, and has nothing of constructive value to offer most of the time, then some of their energy should be efforted into the design and creative process - show us really good examples of what you think an Andromeda N7 armor should look like. You have a lot of energy, so design something really cool. Make the game better, not tear down everyone else's ideas and comments. This is a fantasy game, not reality, and not every little detail has to be picked on. There's a lot of nice details on the picture. The volume of negative comments focusing on how much people hate a 'flap', and against other people's views about it, page after page after page, isn't useful or healthy. Perhaps you could become a design artist. Maybe you've missed your true calling? I'm not making this a personal issue against you or others, nor against making comments; they should just be constructive comments, most of the time.

[Killroy]

Not my point. Critique is fine. Constructive critique is even better. Offering suggestions for improvement is great. I didn't mean one can't criticize at all. Far from it!  I just think that when a person is so excessively critical, and has nothing of constructive value to offer most of the time, then some of their energy should be efforted into the design and creative process - show us really good examples of what you think an Andromeda N7 armor should look like. You have a lot of energy, so design something really cool. Make the game better, not tear down everyone else's ideas and comments. This is a fantasy game, not reality, and not every little detail has to be picked on. There's a lot of nice details on the picture. The volume of negative comments focusing on how much people hate a 'flap', and against other people's views about it, page after page after page, isn't useful or healthy. Perhaps you could become a design artist. Maybe you've missed your true calling? I'm not making this a personal issue against you or others, nor against making comments; they should just be constructive comments, most of the time.

 

[Nicholas_]

I bet it's harbinger underneath

[SwobyJ]

Nope. I can't understand how anyone who's untested or inexperienced is N7. Unless the Andromedan expedition IS their test to becoming one. That, I could see a bit easier.

 

Yes, there's already two easy explanations:

 

1)You undertake the N7 training before/during the project. Like its even part of our gameplay. We're the next gen of N7 out in Andromeda, and we're not 'established' even within the 'Alliance' yet.

 

2)You have undertaken the N7 training but you just haven't had Shepard's reputation of the Blitz/Akuze/Torfan (a form of Blitz is made canon for all Shepards) before joining the Normandy. So you're a 'fresh' N7, who hasn't been tested as one, only tested to become one. The higher proficiencies may seem to require field missions, but that could be figured out some way.

 

And I could think of other, less easy explanations.

 

 

EDIT: The game could start us as a non-N7 just as Mass Effect started us as a non-Spectre. We undergo/finish the N7 training and onward from there. As part of a narrative of starting off less than Shepard did when facing the Reapers.

[SwobyJ]

Apparently my shep sleep through the part about asari, turian and Krogan biology. Wonder how he passed N7.

 

Frontline trauma care.

 

Slap on that medigel.

 

Alliance is not taught, pre-ME1, on how to work together with aliens and live with them etc. They're taught how to respond to them when they really need to. Stuff like first contact protocol and combat assistance. Its through the trilogy that humanity as a whole (or at least what remains during/after the Harvest ) grows in interaction with others and learns relatively faster then even the recent decades.

 

I don't expect most Alliance soldiers to know much about aliens unless they're specializing in something that needs it more. Its hard to remember, but on the start of ME1 humanity barely spread to the Terminus Systems, and were edging into living in Council Space, but was largely either on Earth or elsewhere in Attican Traverse. A few years changed a lot, and there's some lore reasons for that. Millions moved elsewhere in the galaxy since pre-ME1, but most places are still mostly/all human populated and billions more stayed on Earth. We're spoiled with gameplay in the Citadel and Illium, and even Feros and Novaria. Humanity is very new to Omega, like within the decade at most, I think. We're spreading everywhere fast, and taking authority and territory fast, just not as abruptly and dangerously as the Krogan as we can undergo diplomacy like the Asari, and we're providing relative safety and security like the Turians, and useful new technology innovations like the Salarians.

 

 

EDIT: Basically while many Alliance soldiers may know about how Asari and Krogan and Turian biology simply works, and it was still pretty dumb to have Shepard so clueless, its still a pretty typical Alliance thing to have most unaware of this stuff. Most Alliance is in Attican Traverse and most of the Traverse is human and its not required learning yet. It would be with/after the Reaper War though, or maybe even the Geth Conflicts.

[UpUpAway]

For me, the flap is an attempt to represent there is cloth below the armor. Bioware talked a few times about how they want to make the transition between casual clothes and armor more natural.

So with the flap you can clearly see there is cloth-like layer below the plated armor parts. I believe when they start revelaing how customization will work, this will make more sense, at least from a gameplay point of view. 

 

Gotta think like a Northerner here... it's so Shep can remove the helmet and zip on a parka (hood) when necessary.

 

ME:A meets AC