Nathaniel or Oghren, I guess. They also seem the most loyal, under most conditions. Pretty much every other Warden leaves in one way or another (Nate can too, but I think it's a bit easy to get his approval up).
Who's your Warden-Constable?
#26
Posté 06 mars 2016 - 03:42
#27
Posté 06 mars 2016 - 07:26
Nathanial seems to be a popular choice but he's always dead in my playthroughs. Honestly, my decisions are usually based around on what character i'm trying to get the most approval from so i'd probably give the role to Velanna.
#28
Posté 06 mars 2016 - 02:03
Nathanial seems to be a popular choice but he's always dead in my playthroughs. Honestly, my decisions are usually based around on what character i'm trying to get the most approval from so i'd probably give the role to Velanna.
I killed him way back when I had a Cousland. But I never could find a reason on other wardens (especially if I had a US warden and roleplayed an Orlesian in Awakening).
#29
Posté 06 mars 2016 - 02:44
My Hero is the King of Ferelden. He had better things to do. And he never wanted to be a Grey Warden. So he returned to court. Left Nathaniel in charge of Amaranthine, since that seemed fitting. The Silver Order was established also.
The warden commander is also Arl of Amaranthine,for a ruler there are no better things to do than rule since it is what they are supposed to do.
Powerless as he is, I'm sure that the prince-consort has plenty of spare time. Anora is more than happy to handle all royal duties.
I would never choose anyone but Nathaniel. It just seems to be the perfect choice and the best way for him to redeem the Howe name too, proving that the name does not make the person.
#30
Posté 06 mars 2016 - 02:47
I killed him way back when I had a Cousland. But I never could find a reason on other wardens (especially if I had a US warden and roleplayed an Orlesian in Awakening).
It's a great struggle to spare him as a noble warden,i did that because it was interesting but i i find impossible to become friends there was too much hatred between these two,one killed his father the other had a father who killed his family..
#31
Posté 07 mars 2016 - 05:42
Well, she wanted to retain her throne. So, why would she complain about it, knowing the risks?
Not suggesting she complained. Just that she missed having her king nearby to share the burden.
The warden commander is also Arl of Amaranthine,for a ruler there are no better things to do than rule since it is what they are supposed to do.
I know. But he rules from Denerim, the true seat of power in Ferelden. And he would rather be king than arl of an arling that technically should fall under his brother's jurisdiction.
Nathaniel is unsuited,Thomas which was the eldest of Howe had experience with this sort of things.
No, I think it was said that Nathaniel was the eldest. Then Delilah, then Thomas as the youngest.
#32
Posté 07 mars 2016 - 06:20
I killed him way back when I had a Cousland. But I never could find a reason on other wardens (especially if I had a US warden and roleplayed an Orlesian in Awakening).
I've only ever used a Cousland so...
#33
Posté 07 mars 2016 - 06:25
My choice would be Oghren. I like Nathaniel a great deal more, but the way the story went for my Warden would put Oghren more at the forefront. Nathaniel accompanied my Warden to defeat the Architect and the Mother, and Oghren stayed at Vigil's keep and fought off darkspawn while my Warden & Co. defended the City of Amaranthine. Seeing as how Oghren was an old ally that also proved himself against the darkspawn as he led the second team at the gates of Denerim, I thought he'd make a good fit here, regardless of how I feel about the character or how I feel my character may regard him.
#34
Posté 07 mars 2016 - 07:41
Nathaniel. I like continuity and having a nobleman--one of the former ruling family of the area even if Rendon was disgraced--as my Second fit best. Since my canon is a Surana, it always felt weird for me and contrary to lore to have a mage elf as the 'arlessa' of the region. I get that they had to standardize the expansion for narrative's sake, but I felt there was only so much the populace would take sitting down. Having Nathaniel (in my head at least) as my Surana's second in command helped to ease some of that "wtf Bioware?" factor.
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#35
Posté 17 mars 2016 - 12:54
I've only ever used a Cousland so...
Me too
And my initial instinct when he said "I am Nathaniel Howe" was KILL!KILL!!KILL!!!!
I'm rather glad I didn't. In a very weird turn of events, he ended up being one of my favorite characters of the series. Don't ask. I still don't really know why.
Nathaniel. I like continuity and having a nobleman--one of the former ruling family of the area even if Rendon was disgraced--as my Second fit best. Since my canon is a Surana, it always felt weird for me and contrary to lore to have a mage elf as the 'arlessa' of the region. I get that they had to standardize the expansion for narrative's sake, but I felt there was only so much the populace would take sitting down. Having Nathaniel (in my head at least) as my Surana's second in command helped to ease some of that "wtf Bioware?" factor.
Am I the only one who wishes that if a female holds a title in her own right, it would be the male version? "Bann" is already gender neutral, like "ser". My Warden ran around Origins (in my head, just to be clear) claiming to be the rightful Teyrn of Highever. I don't know, the "-a" just really feels like a neon sign saying "I MARRIED INTO THIS TITLE!" Anyone? Any? I'll just be over here.
#36
Posté 26 mars 2016 - 12:59
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#37
Posté 26 mars 2016 - 01:26
MY HoF Surana's constant companions in DAA were Nathaniel and Sigrun; Like her I'm torn between the two for constable in her absentia. So bu##er that I choose both.
#38
Posté 26 mars 2016 - 11:12
I like Sigrun too, but it seems no matter what she never gets the Legion out of her and just ups and leaves for the Deep Roads.
#39
Posté 26 mars 2016 - 11:15
Cousland: One of my discarded Origin choices; Tabris.
Amell: Nathienal.
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#40
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 06:41
Nathaniel. My canon Warden actually wants to abdicate as Warden-Commander, since an elvhen mage as arl of Amaranthine is several different levels of Not Supposed to Happen, and have Nathaniel take over as Warden-Commander and de facto arl, leaving Oghren as Warden-Constable and himself somewhere in the background as an adviser - not that Nate seems to need much of that.
I actually headcanon that he agreed to send Nate to Kirkwall both as a favor to the First Warden and as a way to learn about the Deep Roads in the Free Marches for himself.
#41
Posté 29 mars 2016 - 02:28
#42
Posté 30 mars 2016 - 01:24
Alistair, in my main 2 playthroughs. In my others...
Mhairi
Anders
Justice
Sigrun! Yes... Sigrun sounds good.
Let's be honest here. After what DA2 did to Anders, there really isn't a good choice.
#43
Posté 30 mars 2016 - 05:18
1) I'm actually debating whether the Warden would actually remain Commander of the Order. Of the 6 origins, 4 face issues concerning race/perception. Would human forces really respect the authority of an elf, dwarf, or mage, even a Hero? The other two origins are nobility, and I cannot fathom why either would be inclined to eschew their birth, and even if they did, I think it much more likely that a Dwarven Noble would take Grey Warden secrets to Orzammar and reclaim a good chunk of the Deep Roads.
That just leaves the Human Noble, whom many players elect to become King or Queen. Even for the ones that don't, they are still incredibly valuable on the marriage market to the Ferelden nobility. The Cousland line is much bluer than Mac Tir blood, and Alistair is a bastard. They would have to fight off the would-be suitors and potential brides with a Silverite claymore. I don't buy it that the Wardens would enforce the rule of 'Grey Wardens can't have titles or land'. They seem perfectly content with letting one (or two) becoming the ruler of Ferelden AND Amaranthine.
2) Having said that, I think the situation in Amarathine would unfold differently. There's no way an Arling would just be handed over to the Grey Wardens, not without upsetting the entire Landsmeet and angering the local populace. Instead, they would get a refurbished Soldier's Peak, which is still in the North, and maintain a strong presence in the Amaranthine area. Nathaniel would retain his birthright, provided he does not interfere with either Fergus or the Warden bringing justice to the last of Howe's confederates. This means Nathaniel is an Arl, and not a Grey Warden.
3) I'd recruit a hell of a lot of Grey Wardens, more so than in Awakening. Someone would have to take over the mantle of Warden Commander (See above) and Constable. Oghren would make a decent Constable or Senior Warden. None of the others are leader material. Either Alistair or Loghain would make for great Warden Commanders. Whoever becomes Commander will most likely be a Human non-mage.
#44
Posté 30 mars 2016 - 05:38
According to Last Flight, there's apparently a new Warden-Commander in Ferelden being appointed as of 9:42.
The best way I could see the devs reconciling the various worldstates and bringing them into line, would be to say that if the Warden died during Origins, the Orlesian Warden served as Warden-Commander from Awakening onwards, but departed in 9:42 to go on their Calling.
If the Warden survived Origins, they served as Warden-Commander during Awakening and for the next 12 years, before deciding to abdicate the position in 9:42 to put their full focus on finding a possible cure for the Calling.
In that case, we'd all be left with us having a new Warden-Commander in Ferelden. If I had to vote, the obvious choice for that would definitely be Nathaniel... after all, the guy is the clear favourite pick for who most of us headcanon as being our second-in-command, so why not our replacement?
#45
Posté 30 mars 2016 - 06:11
My Warden abdicated well before then, to go hunt darkspawn (and Crows, and slavers) in Antiva. ![]()
#46
Posté 30 mars 2016 - 09:48
According to Last Flight, there's apparently a new Warden-Commander in Ferelden being appointed as of 9:42.
It's a bit contradicting with the letter our Inquisitor receives from the HoF as he/she signed it as Warden-Commander (name) of Ferelden, or maybe he/she doesn't know that he/she has been replaced ![]()
#47
Posté 30 mars 2016 - 07:09
It's a bit contradicting with the letter our Inquisitor receives from the HoF as he/she signed it as Warden-Commander (name) of Ferelden, or maybe he/she doesn't know that he/she has been replaced
Or maybe Canon is simply wrong becuase our Warden didn't commit the DA like the Canon Warden did?
#48
Posté 31 mars 2016 - 08:04
Or maybe Canon is simply wrong becuase our Warden didn't commit the DA like the Canon Warden did?
Frankly I don't know what is canon now, because since the release of the books World of Thedas 1 & 2 there are some things that has been changed,
#49
Posté 31 mars 2016 - 06:55
It's a bit contradicting with the letter our Inquisitor receives from the HoF as he/she signed it as Warden-Commander (name) of Ferelden, or maybe he/she doesn't know that he/she has been replaced
Or maybe Canon is simply wrong becuase our Warden didn't commit the DA like the Canon Warden did?
Frankly I don't know what is canon now, because since the release of the books World of Thedas 1 & 2 there are some things that has been changed,
This is why, for me, headcanon trumps BioWare canon in situations like this.
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