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#26
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Don't take my word for it. There's no shame in slapping on stabilization modules and an accuracy scope. And then tell me if it doesn't fire like a gun in the hands of a MM'd Turian.

Most players around here don't need cyclonics/adrenalines/shield cells/power amps to make their kits survive anyway. Might as well try it out.


well, no shame, ok but what about that precious slot?

with every sniper rifle I want to get double hits. and max regular damage
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HVB + accuracy scope. What else are you gonna put there? Another Piercing Mod?

 

What you lose in some extra penetration you make up for it with extra ROF, higher capacity, more room for error and less monotonous reload canceling. And arguably better DPS. If you have been min maxing for 2000 hours, I'm sure you are tired of that ridiculously boring mechanic by now.



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HVB + accuracy scope. What else are you gonna put there? Another Piercing Mod?
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yes. for double hits.

and no, doing (significantly) higher damage is not something I will ever get tired of...

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What you lose in some extra penetration you make up for it with extra ROF, higher capacity, more room for error and less monotonous reload canceling. And arguably better DPS. If you have been min maxing for 2000 hours, I'm sure you are tired of that ridiculously boring mechanic by now.

reload canceling is in my blood now, I don't even notice it anymore.

I don't want room for error - and THATS something after 2000 hours: preferring accurate guns
(not saying I am that great, just saying it's more fun)

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First of all, arguing with me without trying the setup I'm recommending is pointless because I'm not interested in thought experiments. When Alfonseodode said I should try out the Incisor on my own and report back, I did just that. I didn't argue against his statement about the weapon's "shitty damage" without trying it out myself.

 

Second, if you

 

- can't/won't/are unable to make the Incisor work

 

- will only use 1 of 3 or 4 snipers

 

- will only use accurate weapons

 

- will only use the same mod combos on snipers

 

- must have max damage on every shot

 

- will not consider that different weapons are not solely judged on per-shot-dmg but also on their usage

 

then I doubt how good you really are. Now don't take this the wrong way, I appreciate your prior inputs on this thread and elsewhere but it is no wonder you are bored of the game in 2000 hours. How you even got to that number with the way you seem to insist on playing is amazing in itself but I'm sorry if I like to switch things up for myself and others.



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well, no shame, ok but what about that precious slot?

with every sniper rifle I want to get double hits. and max regular damage

 

Forgot to add, then use a Turian. Use your imagination. SM+Acc. Scope for non-Turians. SM+whatever for Turians.



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First of all, arguing with me without trying the setup I'm recommending is pointless because I'm not interested in thought experiments. When Alfonseodode said I should try out the Incisor on my own and report back, I did just that. I didn't argue against his statement about the weapon's "shitty damage" without trying it out myself.

Second, if you

- can't/won't/are unable to make the Incisor work

- will only use 1 of 3 or 4 snipers

- will only use accurate weapons

- will only use the same mod combos on snipers

- must have max damage on every shot

- will not consider that different weapons are not solely judged on per-shot-dmg but also on their usage

then I doubt how good you really are. Now don't take this the wrong way, I appreciate your prior inputs on this thread and elsewhere but it is no wonder you are bored of the game in 2000 hours. How you even got to that number with the way you seem to insist on playing is amazing in itself but I'm sorry if I like to switch things up for myself and others.


wow!

I guess I should reply to that... post of yours.

but I am working.
see you in my lunch break

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maybe it s not as shitty as i remember :D. I ll retry it at some point. Anyway, Lineholder, u might put a word about the damage in the kalence thread, in case seasoned turtle shows up and check

 

(but u cant say it s the best SR of the game !)



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(but u cant say it s the best SR of the game !)

 

http://forum.bioware...le-in-the-game/

 

But in the Incisor's case, I'm 99% sure.



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http://forum.bioware...le-in-the-game/
 
But in the Incisor's case, I'm 99% sure.


Line. Cough. B4 some other dawgs also get involved. That thread points to the In*dra*, and u talk about in*cisor*. Is it possible the that u actually have another weapon in mind?

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I know it talks about the Indra. It's just to show I've made statements like that before. But this time, I'm actually serious about the Incisor.



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the forum is not very alive, so it could be a good time to throw another thread like that lineholder !

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I know it talks about the Indra. It's just to show I've made statements like that before. But this time, I'm actually serious about the Incisor.

Ok. I'm now also objectively interested in ur claim.
Unless u are using this as bait to troll us all.
Peddro compare damage stats on snipers here: http://forum.bioware...-rifles-of-me3/

Could u send us a video that shows the glorious_sseness of the in*cisor* together with some average pugs hanging out with their op BW and Javelin's(nice but not precondition). People here save their eyesight for ingame and can't waste it on pages of unfounded /non provable epeen exchanges like in me:a. So we can spare ourselves the "i say", "u say" stuff that might follow, imminently.
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I wish I had a video, but I do not. I will give you Kalence calculations for damage first,

 

Incisor

 

http://kalence.drupa...63U55334!EDBA3G

 

Note that the damage is per shot and tac cloak with sniper bonus active. Multiplied by 3 it becomes, 3714. Now, the Incisor has a clip size of 15 and a total of 150 bullets to start out with. There is no delay in firing bursts which means you can empty the clip within the window that the tac cloak bonuses are active. That gives you 18,570 dmg per clip. Multiply that by 11 and you can dish out 204,270 dmg before running to the ammo box.

 

Widow

 

http://kalence.drupa...63U55334!EDBA3G

 

Damage per shot is 4197. One shot weapon + 17 in reserve if you have it maxed at X. That gives you 75,546 dmg before running to the ammo box. Also consider that reload canceling is crucial but everyone knows that. You can get off, what, 2 or 3 shots off before the tac cloak dmg-boost window ends. Also consider that this weapon is heavier than the Incisor meaning a longer cooldown.

 

Black Widow

 

http://kalence.drupa...63U55334!EDBA3G

 

Damage per shot is 3112. 3 shots in clip + 25 in reserve. 9,336 dmg per clip. 87,136 dmg before running to the ammo box.

 

Javelin

 

http://kalence.drupa...63U55334!EDBA3G

 

Damage per shot is 5207. 1 shot weapon with 15 in reserve. 83,312 dmg before running to ammo box. Heaviest weapon of the bunch.

 

 

 

Now these figures are based on each weapon having the same mods and disruptor ammo (which you can swap out with anything you like). When you factor in the Incisor's usability, damage, rof, capacity, weight compared to the other three you can see that it holds its own in damage output against the other 3. Also keep in mind that the Incisor will be maxed for most people while the BW and Javelin will rarely ever see level X.



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the forum is not very alive, so it could be a good time to throw another thread like that lineholder !

tumblr_n6i5n27EO61s02vreo1_400.gif

 

If I ever get good at using the Locust, I might make a thread about it. I was trying it on the Volus Mercenary because the Locust is used by "hit men and gang members".

 

Underwhelming.



#41
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First of all, arguing with me without trying the setup I'm recommending is pointless because I'm not interested in thought experiments. When Alfonseodode said I should try out the Incisor on my own and report back, I did just that. I didn't argue against his statement about the weapon's "shitty damage" without trying it out myself.

 

Second, if you

 

- can't/won't/are unable to make the Incisor work

 

- will only use 1 of 3 or 4 snipers

 

- will only use accurate weapons

 

- will only use the same mod combos on snipers

 

- must have max damage on every shot

 

- will not consider that different weapons are not solely judged on per-shot-dmg but also on their usage

 

then I doubt how good you really are. Now don't take this the wrong way, I appreciate your prior inputs on this thread and elsewhere but it is no wonder you are bored of the game in 2000 hours. How you even got to that number with the way you seem to insist on playing is amazing in itself but I'm sorry if I like to switch things up for myself and others.

 

Where did I say I am unable to make the Incisor work ? 
Yes, with your setup I am unable to make it do double hits without using the needed ammo type. 
And yes, I could bring it to gold/plat but this would just make me spend a very long time dealing with bullet-sponges.
And considering the "special" shooting behavior of this gun - I'd rather kill myself.
 
Where did I say that I solely judge a weapon by its damage?
You said: "Incisor is probably the best sniper rifle in the game (also considering its utility)"
And that's just a very "contestable" statement. No matter if we factor in the utility in or not. 
To get to this opinion I don't have to spend 500 hours with this gun, sorry.
 
Where did I say that I was a good player? I am experienced, yes.
 
Where did I say that I was bored by this game?
It is just that "straight/pointed" and accurate powers and guns offer more fun after that long play time. And I was only speaking about myself.
 
(2000 hours) "How you even got to that number with the way you seem to insist on playing is amazing"
.... and this you say based on the fact that I don't use the Incisor and that I try to maximize the raw damage of my gun ??
I don't need you to understand why I still like this game. You don't know my setups nor the way I play.
If you were on PC I'd happily play with you. Just let me know then.


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*sigh*

Any advice what I could have for dinner today? It looks bleak outside and I can't think of anything tasty. :(


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*sigh*

Any advice what I could have for dinner today? It looks bleak outside and I can't think of anything tasty. :(

inb4steak

 

I, however wld recommend some nice "mont d'or"

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but where u R, i guess curry wurst is your best option ;p


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i ll drop peddros reflexion on the incisor

 

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Incisor I 67.8 Incisor X 84.8 (*3 - no refire delay !!!) (15 shots) {a better Claymore Shotgun for Infiltrators ? - IF ONLY}
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Max_Number_of_Shots_With_Cloak_Bonus = 3 bursts ?

Cloaked_HS
84.8 * 1.4 * (1 + 0.9 + 0.25 + 0.225 + 0.2) * 2.5 * 3 = 2292.78 {Should Drop Any non-boss gold enemy with 2 aimed bursts to the head - EXCEPT IT CANNOT HIT tripple HS even at point blank range}

Non_cloaked_HS
84.8 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.225 + 0.2) * 2.5 * 3 = 1065.3 {2 bursts to the head for gold unprotected regular enemies 4 for most protected (shield//barrier) ones }
(NOT EVEN TURIANS CAN HOPE TO SCORE ALL 3 HS at RANGE - WEAPON BROKEN ? - Scoped Revenant is a HS MONSTER COMPARED TO THIS PIECE OF  :P ... )

BROKEN WEAPON - ????????????????????????????????? TYPO among the stats ???????????????

 

Now if the damage is really per bullet instead of per burst, i d like a test to show that, cant do it and dont want to



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inb4steak

 

I, however wld recommend some nice "mont d'or"

vacherin-mont-d_or_2417770b.jpg

but where u R, i guess curry wurst is your best option ;p

No it's actually Rievkooche and Suurbrode if I'd go regional. I'd go Cürrywuas if I went auf Schalke to see them lose again. However that cheese is a good idea - simple preparation, too. I'll check those French merchants when they are in town again.


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200.gif and now i m hungry



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200.gif and now i m hungry

And rightly so, but don't eat Sauerbraten in the other parts of Germany, only the Rhineland has the real stuff. damn thing takes like three days to prepare if you don't have a good vendor on hand who got it pre-prepared. The traditional one is made from viande de cheval, though.


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LMAO some quality trolling there, lineholder! Good job, it's been a while that these boards haven't been that funny.
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And rightly so, but don't eat Sauerbraten in the other parts of Germany, only the Rhineland has the real stuff. damn thing takes like three days to prepare if you don't have a good vendor on hand who got it pre-prepared. The traditional one is made from viande de cheval, though.

with or without dried grapes grain and Lebkuchen ?



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No it's actually Rievkooche and Suurbrode if I'd go regional. I'd go Cürrywuas if I went auf Schalke to see them lose again. However that cheese is a good idea - simple preparation, too. I'll check those French merchants when they are in town again.


0.o Rheinland culture in Kazakhstan? Katarina the great can teach us a few lessons on sustained integration.

Local cuisine in Frankfurt is this- Rippchen mit Kraut : EI4tw3c.jpg, of course with green sauce and cider.
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