It's suppose to create a disconnect, they are meeting someone new
But the player isn't, and the protagonist is supposed to be the player's character. There shouldn't be a disconnect between the player and the player character in a role-playing game where the player influences the player character.
But the player isn't, and the protagonist is supposed to be the player's character. There shouldn't be a disconnect between the player and the player character in a role-playing game where the player influences the player character.
The player character isn't going to have all prior knowledge the player themselves have
Hanako, your avatar pretty much expresses how I'm feeling right now. This is just such awful news 
I don't even have Bethesda to fall back on any more since they've also decided to change or get rid of everything about their games that I liked.
The player character isn't going to have all prior knowledge the player themselves have
If they don't, then they shouldn't be the ones dealing with the characters and plot that information applies to, at least in a significant way.
If they don't, then they shouldn't be the ones dealing with the characters and plot that information applies to, at least in a significant way.
That's not how it works, if they new person doesn't know said returning character then they should "get to know them" like an actual person
The player will always know more than the PC, that even includes past PCs
That's not how it works, if they new person doesn't know said returning character then they should "get to know them" like an actual person
It works for some people. I for one hate it. You go through so much time developing the relationship between two characters only to start over from square one and in most cases the new relationship doesn't get nearly the amount of development and attention the original one got because the writers rely on players' meta-knowledge instead. Not that it matters anymore. They'll keep doing it and whatever who cares I'm going to go crawl into a ditch now.
Trespasser "wrapped up" the inquisitor's story like The Force Awakens wrapped up the Star Wars series.
Seeing how they have the Mage Killer comic introducing 2 new characters I believe we will have the option of playing one of them; which sort of kills the game for me I like playing anything but a human character! Even the writers have said that Inquisition was longer and cut in half - so the inquisitors story isn't over by a long shot. I really want inky to be in DA4 even as a dual protagonist (if thats what I have to settle for). I love the idea of a one armed inky taking names and kicking butt.
Well, Patrick Weeks (lead writer) just confirmed that the reason the arm was removed was not to make it impossible for the Inquisitor to return!
https://twitter.com/...588579274522625
Plenty of amputee heroes!
Besides, we're not even certain that the next game is going to be about Solas; for all we know, he will just disappear and everything that happened during DAI will just be background noise, such as was the case with DA2.
Patrick Weekes when asked stated that DA4 would finish the Solas story.
I don't think Bioware understands how to wrap up stories.
I think you're very likely right about that. The closest they've come to that was DA:O, and that was 2009.
Not having good feelings right now...I wonder if I'm getting too old for video games anyway?
You can't be too old for video games! 
But things can definitely go against what you'd hoped for or expected. Trespasser was the last thing giving me hope that Bioware could be great again. Now... Now I don't know. I wish we could just get straight, honest answers as soon as they're available.
I wish I had never played Trespasser, it gave me false hope and now I'm extremely disappointed again.
I'm bloody sick of false hope. I had enough after ME3 to last a lifetime. But it's hard to just turn hope off, even if you try to be a pessimistic cynic.
*sigh* I don't understand this company.
Well, Patrick Weeks (lead writer) just confirmed that the reason the arm was removed was not to make it impossible for the Inquisitor to return!
https://twitter.com/...588579274522625
Plenty of amputee heroes!
That seems more like a PR statement to me. If they wanted to remove the mark they could have removed the mark. I got the distinct impression that they removed the whole hand to "cripple" the inquisitor so "obviously they can't fight anymore and no one will expect them to be the hero again."
Look at how DA:O potentially ends - Flemeth/Mythal & Morrigan potentially use you like a puppet, and your recourse is ... to do absolutely nothing while they are all out there. And then, with the sequels greenlight, the way they handled Witch Hunt...
Nah in the end it's only the player decision,that is not a true manipulation a nudge maybe and nothing more.
I think you're very likely right about that. The closest they've come to that was DA:O, and that was 2009.
You can't be too old for video games!
I stopped liking JRPGs years ago (which I'd been obsessed with as a child and teenager) and my favorite companies BioWare and Bethesda no longer make the kind of games I like. There are no game companies right now making the kind of games that appeal to me. I'm 31, maybe it's time to move on.
Trespasser was the last thing giving me hope that Bioware could be great again. Now... Now I don't know. I wish we could just get straight honest answers as soon as they're available.
I'm bloody sick of false hope. I had enough after ME3 to last a lifetime. But it's hard to just turn hope off, even if you try to be a pessimistic cynic.
*sigh* I don't understand this company.
Same here. Switching lead writers and the glimpse of a potential interesting future game Trespasser showed me was enough to give me a spark of hope but now that hope is gone. I just don't think they can write a good story anymore (maybe they never could and I'm just remembering my impression from when I was younger and less critical). My prediction went from "this could be such a cool opportunity to do a fall from grace story with a personal connection between the protagonist and antagonist, the hero having to cope with the loss of a limb and go undercover to thwart Solas' plans and get revenge" to "oh, it will be another generic nobody who is saving the world because the world needs saving so might as well save the world." Of course it will probably also be stuffed to the brim with cameos, returning companions and EU characters who get little to no development in the game.
ME3 utterly destroyed my love of Mass Effect to where I can't even bring myself to play the first two games which I loved. When I think about the series as a whole it brings up negative emotions now and I've not looked up anything about the new one, I have zero interest in it. If we're interpreting this correctly as "the inquisitor's story IS done" (rather than "this is what we originally intended but changed our minds") then Trespasser has done the same thing to Dragon Age. If they'd just left well enough alone my interest in DA would have gone out with a "meh" as it had with the vanilla DA:I. I didn't have any interest in playing the next game but if a future installment got good reviews I'd have given it a try. Instead Trespasser crushed my hopes and sent my interest out with a (bitter) bang. The only BioWare game I play anymore is SWtOR.
Patrick Weekes stated that if greenlighted the next Dragon Age game will conclude Solas' story.
That seems more like a PR statement to me. If they wanted to remove the mark they could have removed the mark. I got the distinct impression that they removed the whole hand to "cripple" the inquisitor so "obviously they can't fight anymore and no one will expect them to be the hero again."
Well the lead writer himself said it wasn't. If you don't believe a direct statement explicitly saying what you claim isn't true, from the person in control, made to a single follower (not in any kind of PR), nothing anyone says will convince you, as you can just shrug and go "lies, all lies"!
The Inquisitor story is over or not?
What was that other company that made KOTOR & KOTOR 2 and Fallout New Vegas? I forgot there name, but I really like them. I hope they come back and make a KOTOR 3 (which I highly doubt) so that I'll having to do...
KOTOR was made by Bioware.
KOTOR 2 and Fallout: New Vegas was made by Obsidian.
That seems more like a PR statement to me. If they wanted to remove the mark they could have removed the mark. I got the distinct impression that they removed the whole hand to "cripple" the inquisitor so "obviously they can't fight anymore and no one will expect them to be the hero again."
I don't think so, because of the context of DA:I's criticism. Much of it was that there was no cost to anything, and the Inquisitor won too easily. So they turned the mark into a curse, to make the victory have a cost. As the HOF must return fandom shows, there's nothing a group wanting the character to return will accept as a reason for the character not being the protagonist.
I'll be very happy if it's true that there will be a new protagonist and the inquisitor's story is tied off.
I don't think so, because of the context of DA:I's criticism. Much of it was that there was no cost to anything, and the Inquisitor won too easily. So they turned the mark into a curse, to make the victory have a cost.
But the player isn't, and the protagonist is supposed to be the player's character. There shouldn't be a disconnect between the player and the player character in a role-playing game where the player influences the player character.
There's always a disconnect. At first, in the first PT, it's because the player actually lacks the in-setting knowledge of the PC. So you have absurd moments where you have extended conversations about common-knowledge subjects (e.g., NPC "Ah, welcome stranger! Would you like to rent a metallic wheeled vehicle dependent upon an internal combustion engine as your mode of transportation?" Investigation Option: "Tell me more about internal combustion engines." NPC: "Ah, well, you see...") and after the fact we have meta-knowledge on the plot (e.g. Solas/Blackwall).
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