Who will stop The Inquisitor from ruining the Warden?
#1
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 09:33
#3
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 09:49
That would be an interesting turn of events, though I doubt that The Inquisitor would be involved. A surviving Warden, who's cameo I fully support, would indeed have faced questions at some point about how they and Alistair survived the slaying of the Archdemon. I have no doubt that the Wardens at some point launched an inquiry into how the Blight started, how it was stopped, who was there, etc.
The Wardens wouldn't care that "dark" Magic was used to spare the Warden or Alistair's life but I'm sure they would be interested in Kieran. Is the Warden's, Alistair's or Logain's son in danger? I doubt the details of the event and the results are known to anyone but Hero and her/his companions but some loose ends would be Logain, if he is not Kieran's father, who had no love for the Warden or Alistair. Who would stop him from telling Warden officials?
And then there is Leliana. A Leliana who is a lover or friend to the Warden wouldn't reveal anything, not even to the Inquisition. A Leliana that was "killed" might use it against The Warden, depending on Kieran's parentage. But then it has been ten years. If this was going to be an huge issue my thoughts are that it would have been already.
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#4
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 09:53
What?
you understood everything my dear lol ![]()
#5
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 09:57
That would be an interesting turn of events, though I doubt that The Inquisitor would be involved. A surviving Warden, who's cameo I fully support, would indeed have faced questions at some point about how they and Alistair survived the slaying of the Archdemon. I have no doubt that the Wardens at some point launched an inquiry into how the Blight started, how it was stopped, who was there, etc.
The Wardens wouldn't care that "dark" Magic was used to spare the Warden or Alistair's life but I'm sure they would be interested in Kieran. Is the Warden's, Alistair's or Logain's son in danger? I doubt the details of the event and the results are known to anyone but Hero and her/his companions but some loose ends would be Logain, if he is not Kieran's father, who had no love for the Warden or Alistair. Who would stop him from telling Warden officials?
And then there is Leliana. A Leliana who is a lover or friend to the Warden wouldn't reveal anything, not even to the Inquisition. A Leliana that was "killed" might use it against The Warden, depending on Kieran's parentage. But then it has been ten years. If this was going to be an huge issue my thoughts are that it would have been already.
They will be especially interested in hunt FLemeth and Morrigan one for the knowledge of the ritual and the other for all the others info but too bad that she is already dead.
Also i think that they will degrade the warden from being a commander of the wardens
#7
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 10:08
But the warden is dead. I mean, what kind of idiot would let the crazy witch do a sex magic ritual to preserve the soul of a tainted god that was busy ravaging the world, and then be so selfish to demand someone else die in your place?
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#8
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 10:16
But the warden is dead. I mean, what kind of idiot would let the crazy witch do a sex magic ritual to preserve the soul of a tainted god that was busy ravaging the world, and then be so selfish to demand someone else die in your place?
There are many
but honestly there's no selfishness in wanting to sacrifice the others two given that they were more than happy to kill the critter.
having said that i killed it personally for greed because i thought Riordan wanted to gain phenomenal cosmic powers from the archdemon
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#9
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 11:59
Well at this point i don't know who will stop the wardens from discovering this and remove the warden from position of commander of the grey,since the Inquisitor has no obligation toward the HoF or Morrigan or Flemeth unless is mind controlled by Mythal.
i think this should be the appropriate flip coin of the ritual given that the price to reject it was heavy in DAO for those who cared to not gamble the world..
#10
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 12:02
If the Wardens are exiled there's not much they can do anyway.
#11
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 12:03
The Grey Wardens are entitled to no answers. Besides, once the Warden finds the cure, s/he is no longer a part of the Order anyway.
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#12
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 12:11
If the Wardens are exiled there's not much they can do anyway.
Only the orlesian wardens the others in the others nations are still there
The Grey Wardens are entitled to no answers. Besides, once the Warden finds the cure, s/he is no longer a part of the Order anyway.
THe HoF as well is not entitled to the silence of the Inquisitor and should the wardens consider what the HoF did as wrong the privilege of being a commander of the order should be removed.
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#13
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 05:34
I think the plot surrounding the Dark Ritual will have some effect on the Warden civil war at Weisshaupt. Many Wardens may have thought that the senior Wardens, or even the previous members of the order, were deceiving the rest of them regarding the Ultimate Sacrifice, and the claim of the First Warden to not know anything about it might be seen as him trying to conceal the truth.
But, if Alistair or Loghain are the ones leading the charge, then they might be looked at with suspicion if they don't reveal the secret. Beyond adding to the Warden dilemma, I don't see it coming up. I doubt the (ex)Inquisitor will care about it enough to inform a group of warring Wardens. If anything he'll only be interested in putting an end to their infighting.
#14
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 05:38
Reveal everything about what happened to the archdemon in the battle of Denerim and into the fade to the wardens!
I see trouble times for those who did the Ritual in DA4
Damn, what drugs have you been taking?
I'll have what you're having.
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#15
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 06:11
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#16
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 06:20
I doubt the (ex)Inquisitor will care about it enough to inform a group of warring Wardens. If anything he'll only be interested in putting an end to their infighting.
That's a good reason to tell them if it would benefit the Inquisitor, if the inquisitor will be invovled with the wardens in DA4
#17
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 06:32
But then it has been ten years. If this was going to be an huge issue my thoughts are that it would have been already.
#18
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 06:32

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#19
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 06:48
Point not found.
#20
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 07:35
Can anybody translate the OP?
He thinks that in a worldstate where the Warden did the Dark Ritual the (ex)Inquisitor could reveal to someone or some group of people how the Warden survived against the Archdemon since the (ex)Inquisitor knows of Kieran and went to the Fade with Morrigan to confront Flemeth, and this will somehow ruin the Warden.
That's a good reason to tell them if it would benefit the Inquisitor, if the inquisitor will be invovled with the wardens in DA4
How would it benefit the Inquisitor? And besides this, he has no proof anyway.
#21
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 07:47
#22
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 07:48
How would it benefit the Inquisitor? He has no proof.
#23
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 07:49
Judging by a Codex from Clarel to Arl Teagan, it doesn't look like the HOF is a Commander of the Grey anymore, so this whole question/theory is moot.
They reomved the warden? I remember that it was still a commander in DAI.
#24
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 07:56
They reomved the warden? I remember that it was still a commander in DAI.
There's a Codex letter from Clarel to Tegan in Inquesition which is basically her asking HIM for permission for Grey Wardens to be 'allowed' into Ferelden. Bare in mind, this Codex exists whether the HOF is alive or Dead.
#25
Posté 04 mars 2016 - 08:03
Judging by a Codex from Clarel to Arl Teagan, it doesn't look like the HOF is a Commander of the Grey anymore, so this whole question/theory is moot.
She was Warden-Commander of Orlais, not Ferelden. But the Hero who lives will still address [sign] the reply letter as "Warden-Commander", so you're still right that it's all rather moot.
-What proof the Inquisitor need,he/she was a direct testimony and other members of the Inquisition can confirm the existence of a boy named Kieran.
-Also why the warden should not believe to an Inquisitor and renowned hero?
-It could benefit the Inquisitor if the Inquisitor could earn the wardens goodwill and their help to catch Solas in exchange for this information.
Writings on the Dark Ritual, for starters. Some Grey Warden mages would be able to confirm. Otherwise I doubt the Wardens would believe the Inquisitor, or even if they believed, they would demand verification. The Inquisitor could be lying for all they know.
They might not believe the Inquisitor if they think its just an attempt to get them to abandon their cause, or if it's just another "deception" encouraged by the First Warden. So, paranoia, basically.
I just don't see how revealing the existence of the Dark Ritual ends the Warden civil war. At best it just eliminates one of many concerns that the questioning Wardens have about their leaders.
As for saving the world from Solas, the Wardens should be on board with that regardless.
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