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[German Soldier]

You are wrong, the calling happens in 9:10 and blight started in 9:30.Senior warden, doesn't mean much as i have said far from highest rank among wardens and you deliberately keep ignoring it.

 

They are allowed to fail and it is called game over , plus none of that matters but you keep ingnoring what im saying , once again fact warden is protagonist doesn't change fact that they were powerful enough to defeat those enemies what speaks of their power regardless of whether character is protagonist.

Also i already pointed that , that rank doesn't matter and warden when comparred was said to be much more powerful than other wardens.

You are wrong

It doesn't matter when the Calling happens since during the novel both Riordan and Duncan were already GW they didn't became GW during the events of the book they already were GW.

Senior GW are more powerful than ordinary GW since the  taint give them more power.

Game over means nothing the warden can't lose and the archdemon can't win this story is scripted so don't be silly.

The player is permitted to take one Origin from the several offered when one is took all the others potential people that could have been the Warden of DAO die because they were not under the player control.

As i said the warden is nothing more than a puppet in the player hands that alone should disqualify the character from being even compared to the others characters especially to those that you don't even know and that  you arrogantly  consider more weak

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

You are wrong

It doesn't matter when the Calling happens since during the novel both Riordan and Duncan were already GW they didn't became GW during the events of the book they already were GW.

Senior GW are more powerful than ordinary GW since the the taint give them more power.

Game over means nothing the warden can't lose and the archdemon can't win this story is scripted so don't be silly.

The player is permitted to take one Origin from the several offered when one is took all the others potential people that could have been the Warden of DAO die because they were not under the player control.

As i said the warden is nothing more than a puppet in the player hands that alone should disqualify the character from being even compared to the others characters especially to those that you don't even know and that  you arrogantly  consider more weak

 

 

Sorry, but you made a mistake trying to sell that The calling happened 30 years before blight despite it being 20 years and now you are trying to accuse me of being wrong? Plus , once again you made up information that Riordan was warden 30 years despite that it never being stated and you don't know that Clarel herself spend decades as grey warden proving that you have no idea what you are talking about.

From where you take that information that grey wardens are stronger with age?Pretty much i have only heard that darkspawn become stronger not grey wardens , so you made another information up i assume?

Game over is losing so your point is moot.

They died because of circumstances, ie Duncan not recruiting them...

Sorry it doesn't matter they are puppet once again by your inane logic Grealt isn't one of most powerful warriors in Witcher just because he is protagonist , fact of being protagonist is irrelevant because wheter you like it or not they prove their power during story.

What is funny that once again you speak about topic you have no idea about like you spoke about mods insisting you are right despite being shown wrong with definition of that word and now you tried to lie that i was in wrong despite you messed up dates.

[German Soldier]

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You are being ridiculous since i clearly referenced to Riordan in my first post when i mentioned the 30 years by saying that he did the joining at the same time Duncan did and they were both GW during the events of the book.

You don't even know the lore of the game if you don't even know this basic knowledge,that GW become more powerful the more time pass from their joining.

once again Game over means nothing this story is scripted the warden can't lose so don't be silly

also what mods have to do with this? Your being ridicoulous here.

The human noble Origin don't need Duncan to escape from the castle yet if they are not under the player control they are killed inside the castle by Howe guards,by stupid and weak simple guards

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

You are being ridiculous since i clearly referenced to Riordan in my first post when i mentioned the 30 years by saying that he did the joining at the same time Duncan did and thy were both GW during the events of the book.

You don't even know the lore of the game if you don't even know this basic knowledge,that GW become more powerful the more time pass from their joining.

once again Game over means nothing this story is scripted the warden can't lose so don't be silly

 

You are being ridiculous one and having no basic idea what you are talking about and taking random "facts" that you made up in you head and then when called out on doing, you accuse me of being wrong. In first place you claimed that Riordan was warden for 30 years , when asked from where you had information you replied that because Duncan was grey warden in The calling that happened 30 years before blight what was wrong since the calling happened 20 years before blight and when called out on providing wrong information you had guts to insist that im wrong.Plus , once again that they were wardens before calling doesn't mean 30 years as well can mean 21 years , and considering events in the book, Duncan was recruited no very long time before it , so it is another thing you made up in your head.

 

Once again , provide offical source of that grey wardens become stronger with age because as far only source of that is your own head.   

 

 

once again Game over means nothing this story is scripted the warden can't lose so don't be silly

also what mods have to do with this? Your being ridicoulous here.

The human noble Origin don't need Duncan to escape from the castle yet if they are not under the player control they are killed inside the castle by Howe guards,by stupid and weak simple guards

 

It means a lot it means you lose despite you tried to sell losing as impossibility.They have plenty to do with here , it just served as one of many examples that you speak about things you have no idea about.In first place you don't know if HN even tried to escape or rather remained with parents , second 1 person against army has little chance and third the warden just was at beginning of his/her jurney.  

[Secret Rare]

TheKomandorhepard

In all honesty i don't understand why you are the main source of circular arguments in the Bsn mostly because you're wrong in your assumptions.

 

The taint is a source of strength. As the taint slowly consumes the Warden, they grow stronger, faster, and hardier (the source of the "famed Grey Warden stamina, I guess). When they are near their Calling,  Wardens are said to achieve near-supernatural levels of fighting prowess (this is from the "Last Flight")

Riordan is a senior warden near to his calling and his ability benefited from this state and he was a Warden from more than 20 years not sure if they were 30 but they were more than 20 so in between.

 

A true game over that would have changed the story can't happen ,the Archdemon can't win so saying that the warden is the most awesome of them all because it cannot lose doesn't make sense.

The human noble don't need Duncan to escape(is the only Origin that don't need Duncan at all) yet they are killed because they were not in the hand of the player.

 

[GoldenGail3]

You are being ridiculous one and having no basic idea what you are talking about and taking random "facts" that you made up in you head and then when called out on doing, you accuse me of being wrong. In first place you claimed that Riordan was warden for 30 years , when asked from where you had information you replied that because Duncan was grey warden in The calling that happened 30 years before blight what was wrong since the calling happened 20 years before blight and when called out on providing wrong information you had guts to insist that im wrong.Plus , once again that they were wardens before calling doesn't mean 30 years as well can mean 21 years , and considering events in the book, Duncan was recruited no very long time before it , so it is another thing you made up in your head.
 
Once again , provide offical source of that grey wardens become stronger with age because as far only source of that is your own head.   
 
 

It means a lot it means you lose despite you tried to sell losing as impossibility.They have plenty to do with here , it just served as one of many examples that you speak about things you have no idea about.In first place you don't know if HN even tried to escape or rather remained with parents , second 1 person against army has little chance and third the warden just was at beginning of his/her jurney.

OH Kommando, I think of you way less annoying now, lol.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

In all honesty i don't understand why you are the main source of circular arguments in the Bsn mostly because you're wrong in your assumptions.

 

The taint is a source of strength. As the taint slowly consumes the Warden, they grow stronger, faster, and hardier (the source of the "famed Grey Warden stamina, I guess). When they are near their Calling,  Wardens are said to achieve near-supernatural levels of fighting prowess (this is from the "Last Flight")

Riordan is a senior warden near to his calling and his ability benefited from this state and he was a Warden from more than 20 years not sure if they were 30 but they were more than 20 so in between.

 

A true game over that would have changed the story can't happen ,the Archdemon can't win so saying that the warden is the most awesome of them all because it cannot lose doesn't make sense.

The human noble don't need Duncan to escape(is the only Origin that don't need Duncan at all) yet they are killed because they were not in the hand of the player.

 

 

 

It is funny how you ignored me asking for source of that information ,and instead went supporting german arguments instead providing evidence. I suspect multi-account here. Once again offical source pls instead you claming something, if you don't have it your statement remains nothing more than headcanon because i searched on that topic and nothing mentiones that.

 

If you bothered to read what im saying, you would know that most likely Riordan wasn't warden even 25 years not to mention that guy took random number insisting i was in the wrong , despite the messed up year of events from The calling.

 

That is true game over , game is over and you lost so plain and simple achieving game over is losing and warden dying and with that probably follows archdemon victory over Ferelden. LoL , once again you don't make sense whatsoever even if archdemon couldn't win it wouldn't matter because that wouldn't change simple fact that it was still defeated by HoF that would require power to defeat it cementing HoF power.

Also once again you didn't even bother to read (that is one of reasons i suspect you are German) , in first place we have no information if Cousland would even try escape or just opt to stay with parents what is most likely considering they would be alive.

[Heimdall]

 

In all honesty i don't understand why you are the main source of circular arguments in the Bsn mostly because you're wrong in your assumptions.

 

The taint is a source of strength. As the taint slowly consumes the Warden, they grow stronger, faster, and hardier (the source of the "famed Grey Warden stamina, I guess). When they are near their Calling,  Wardens are said to achieve near-supernatural levels of fighting prowess (this is from the "Last Flight")

I don't recall that at all in Last Flight, though if that's the only source I find it dubious (As its the only novel written by an outside writer)

 

The Grey Wardens tend to be the best because they recruit from the best.  And people who spend their years fighting will hone their skills over time.  The taint doesn't give them any power except immunity and sensing darkspawn (Getting more than that out of it was Avernus' whole purpose).  Time only enhances their ability to sense darkspawn and weaken their immunity to the Calling.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I don't recall that at all in Last Flight, though if that's the only source I find it dubious (As its the only novel written by an outside writer)

 

The Grey Wardens tend to be the best because they recruit from the best.  And people who spend their years fighting will hone their skills over time.  The taint doesn't give them any power except immunity and sensing darkspawn (Getting more than that out of it was Avernus' whole purpose).  Time only enhances their ability to sense darkspawn and weaken their immunity to the Calling.

To my knowledge, in the book effect of the calling on grey wardens is only described as being in "tune" with darkspawn thoughts what allows them easier avoid darkspawn attacks and that is about it, this was used as explanation of girffon effectiveness against darkspawn.

 

Pretty much you are correct, there is nothing in the series that would say that taint makes you stronger only rumors/stories about stamina Morrigan mentions after having sex with the warden.

[Secret Rare]

I don't recall that at all in Last Flight, though if that's the only source I find it dubious (As its the only novel written by an outside writer)

 

The Grey Wardens tend to be the best because they recruit from the best.  And people who spend their years fighting will hone their skills over time.  The taint doesn't give them any power except immunity and sensing darkspawn (Getting more than that out of it was Avernus' whole purpose).  Time only enhances their ability to sense darkspawn and weaken their immunity to the Calling.

The Joining actually does strengthen a Warden, giving them slightly above-normal endurance and strength. The same thing can be seen in run-of-the-mill ghouls; the corrupted are stronger than they originally were. Not superhuman, mind you, just slightly tougher.

Corrupted animals such as spiders,wolves ,bereskarn are more powerful than their non-corrupted versions that alone is a valid argument to assume that the taint does provide more strenght and power,it is not just a myth.

The more they are tainted the more they are powerful.

[MidnightWolf]

The Joining actually does strengthen a Warden, giving them slightly above-normal endurance and strength. The same thing can be seen in run-of-the-mill ghouls; the corrupted are stronger than they originally were. Not superhuman, mind you, just slightly tougher.
Corrupted animals such as spiders,wolves ,bereskarn are more powerful than their non-corrupted versions that alone is a valid argument to assume that the taint does provide more strenght and power,it is not just a myth.
The more they are tainted the more they are powerful.

In DA:O, doesn't a romanced Morrigan also mention that Grey Wardens are known for their endurance too, after going to her tent for the first time? I'm quite certain she does.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

The Joining actually does strengthen a Warden, giving them slightly above-normal endurance and strength. The same thing can be seen in run-of-the-mill ghouls; the corrupted are stronger than they originally were. Not superhuman, mind you, just slightly tougher.

Corrupted animals such as spiders,wolves ,bereskarn are more powerful than their non-corrupted versions that alone is a valid argument to assume that the taint does provide more strenght and power,it is not just a myth.

The more they are tainted the more they are powerful.

 

Once again source of this pls.Plus , in case of tainted animals we are speaking about fully corrupted and twisted by taint beings not grey wardens...

 

 

In DA:O, doesn't a romanced Morrigan also mention that Grey Wardens are known for their endurance too, after going to her tent for the first time? I'm quite certain she does.

Morrigan speaks only about stories told about wardens , nedless to say how accurate stories about them tend to be, Morrigan even questions it herself.

[Secret Rare]

Once again source of this pls.Plus , in case of tainted animals we are speaking about fully corrupted and twisted by taint beings not grey wardens...

 

 

 

I'm personally beginning to find annoying your modus operandi.

You seem rather stubborn,static and unable to grasp informations on your own about the lore into a dynamic way through perspectives rather than need the beakful from the writers "officials statements" that you take as the absolute truth as if they are some sort of god lord of the absolute exactitude.

Since it's seems that you are unable to make your own considerations about the lore through perspectives because clearly you are not interested into it but rather pretend to be the hunter of an objectivity that does not even exist in this setting in the first place, i don't understand what kind of "evidence"(as if they are the truth) you are looking for or that could change your inner staticness.

Here it is an advice,even when you are using in game references,from codex,writers,characters or whatever, remember that such references are just perspectives,nothing more than perspectives not the absolute truth.

My perspective is that Grey wardens are persons,they are living creatures like any other animal and they are slowly corrupted and twisted by the taint like any other animal.

As the taint progress in their body they lose lucidity and gain in strength and physical attributes ,aggressivity and anger like any other animal until they fully become ghouls and become broken like larvae/phantom of themselves.

Now if you want to dismiss this perspective by all means do that,but saying that everything is false and untrue unless isn't approved by word of Gaider or word of Solas or whatever other evidence you desperately want really make me question as for what kind of fan you are since you clearly lack in creativity.

[Heimdall]

The Joining actually does strengthen a Warden, giving them slightly above-normal endurance and strength. The same thing can be seen in run-of-the-mill ghouls; the corrupted are stronger than they originally were. Not superhuman, mind you, just slightly tougher.
Corrupted animals such as spiders,wolves ,bereskarn are more powerful than their non-corrupted versions that alone is a valid argument to assume that the taint does provide more strenght and power,it is not just a myth.
The more they are tainted the more they are powerful.

More crazed and bloodthirsty maybe, I've never seen anything about ghouls being stronger than normal people. They and your other examples obviously physically mutate, but are they actually stronger? I'm not convinced. The only way we've ever heard of corrupted beings drawing power from the taint is emissary magic and the old magisters.

[Dai Grepher]

Gaider explained long ago that what Morrigan reveal there isn't the total picture and that those info are incomplete,you don't know the game better than him since he wrote the whole concept.

He's also been wrong about his own lore in the past. That's why I disregard what he says about the lore. All that matters is the canon. As for what he said about the Dark Ritual, he didn't reveal what is involved every step of the way. So that means he didn't confirm your theory. I am merely posting what the canon states.

The child is tainted understood?It is infected with the taint.

No evidence of that.

Yes non GW killed Dumat and they were not even able to sense his soul when he was killed.

Nothing of Dumat's non-Warden death was revealed in detail, except that people saw him rise again in one of the nearby darkspawn.

They can perceive it when the archdemon is killed non GW can't and those are all info on the codex of Dumat in DAO.

I don't remember anything like that, but so what if they can sense the soul? That doesn't mean it flows into the Warden who strikes the final blow if the Dark Ritual was performed.

The DR work if and only if a GW kill the archdemon otherwise that soul go to a darkspawns can't help you more than the DAO ending where non GW aren't permitted by the writers to kill the AD

We have never seen a non-Warden kill an Archdemon with or without the Dark Ritual, so your claim is unsubstantiated.

It is found during the Dark Epiphany quest. I believe it is only available if you let Avernus live in DA: Awakening.

Avernus is in Origins, in the Soldier's Peak DLC.

How exactly is it not relevant? It is stated quite clearly that the research could directly benefit the Wardens. Yes, the Taint does kill Wardens, that is why there is research being done. The Calling refers to more than just the Song but the end process of a Warden transforming into a Ghoul. If the Taint can be controlled or manipulated then the Calling could be indefinitely delayed. The phrase "Cure the Calling" is not an accident, a mistake or code it is intentional and this story line has been intentionally inching forward for years.

Awakening is not relevant because that is Origin's expansion. Judging by your above comment, you seem to be mixing up the Soldier's Peak DLC with the Awakening expansion pack. Soldier's Peak featured Avernus, Awakening featured the Architect and his version of the Joining to awaken the darkspawn.

The Calling refers to the sound a Warden starts to hear when the taint starts taking over the mind and body. It is the alarm that lets the Warden know that his time is coming. So instead of remain on the surface and become a danger to those around him or her, the Warden goes into the Deep Roads to kill as many darkspawn as possible, and die doing so. The Calling does not transform the Warden into a ghoul. The taint does. And yes, controlling the taint would delay or eliminate the Calling completely because the taint would never overtake the Warden's mind or body.

Again, The Warden has been personally involved since the discovery of the research, they are in personal contact with the First Warden on the issue and then go on a quest to Cure the CALLING. It is all clearly connected. Curing the Taint itself has never been a stated goal but the groundwork for Curing the Calling, manipulating/controlling the Taint and making Wardens stronger and no longer having to fear a premature death via the Taint has been laid.

No. Eliminating the Calling is just a side effect of curing the taint. Delaying or subverting the Calling is the effect of controlling the spread of the taint.

The taint doesn't give them any power except immunity and sensing darkspawn (Getting more than that out of it was Avernus' whole purpose).

Surviving the Joining awards one skill point.

[TheKomandorShepard]

 

I'm personally beginning to find annoying your modus operandi.

You seem rather stubborn,static and unable to grasp informations on your own about the lore into a dynamic way through perspectives rather than need the beakful from the writers "officials statements" that you take as the absolute truth as if they are some sort of god lord of the absolute exactitude.

Since it's seems that you are unable to make your own considerations about the lore through perspectives because clearly you are not interested into it but rather pretend to be the hunter of an objectivity that does not even exist in this setting in the first place, i don't understand what kind of "evidence"(as if they are the truth) you are looking for or that could change your inner staticness.

Here it is an advice,even when you are using in game references,from codex,writers,characters or whatever, remember that such references are just perspectives,nothing more than perspectives not the absolute truth.

My perspective is that Grey wardens are persons,they are living creatures like any other animal and they are slowly corrupted and twisted by the taint like any other animal.

As the taint progress in their body they lose lucidity and gain in strength and physical attributes ,aggressivity and anger like any other animal until they fully become ghouls and become broken like larvae/phantom of themselves.

Now if you want to dismiss this perspective by all means do that,but saying that everything is false and untrue unless isn't approved by word of Gaider or word of Solas or whatever other evidence you desperately want really make me question as for what kind of fan you are since you clearly lack in creativity.

 

 

So, once again hilariously you are unable provide any sort of evidence behind your statement and yet insist your statement is true based solely on your headcanon. Sorry, but your statment isn't not even supported by in-game characters let alone developers , in entire series there is nothing said about wardens being made stronger with age yet you insist otherwise because you say so, what is ridiculous. If you don't have evidence of something you can't insist something being part of the lore, as well i may insist all grey wardens are cyborgs it will have as much credibility as your statment.All you can do is make ridiculous comparisons between animals that went through vast physical and different changes to wardens that remain physically unchanged until they turn into ghouls and process of creation was vastly different, nor once again your statment was supported by grey warden or even other character nor even your wrong obervation that wardens become more agressive and angry is in case as Riordan and Duncan were far from agressive and angry despite being near calling, even Morrigan has nothing more than simply stories that refer only to stamina that she once again herself questions. 

 

Next time if you accuse someone of being wrong better get prepared to discussion knowing what actually is part of the lore rather than your headcanon that you tried to support using false arguments that wardens were said to become stronger in last flight despite they weren't, because you end embarrassing yourself like you just did now.

 

Plus yes , that what developers say as official statment is true, so if devs will say qunari can shoot lasers from their eyes that is absolute truth and in case in the setting , it is called word of god.

[German Soldier]

He's also been wrong about his own lore in the past. That's why I disregard what he says about the lore. All that matters is the canon. As for what he said about the Dark Ritual, he didn't reveal what is involved every step of the way. So that means he didn't confirm your theory. I am merely posting what the canon states.


No evidence of that.
 

Gaider gave his perspective when he said that such theory was not necessarily wrong,now it all comes as what is your definition of canon.

Why Morrigan word should be took as canon?(words wrote by Gaider)

She just gave you few inside about the spell she didn't' taught the spell to you.

Such theories are constructed to try to go further on the explanation and so long as they are not extremely far fetched and improbable they aren't wrong until proved wrong,heck they even find some link with the codex of DUmat as for why non Gw were unsuitable to kill archdemeons.

So you merely posted what the game reveal to you and developed a theory just like me.

[Secret Rare]

More crazed and bloodthirsty maybe, I've never seen anything about ghouls being stronger than normal people. 

Usually a ghoul is defined as whatever creatures was not born with the taint but was infected by it

Animals which turn into ghouls grow bigger and become exceptionally aggressive with some of them growing spikes and other strange mutations such as the corrupted spider queen, as the name implies, is the queen variation of corrupted spiders, found mostly in the Deep Roads. The species is generally faster and stronger than their untainted cousins.

Some human ghouls gained strength from the taint like Adria,certainly is difficult to believe that she was so tougher before to become a ghoul.

 

 

 

Plus yes , that what developers say as official statment is true, so if devs will say qunari can shoot lasers from their eyes that is absolute truth and in case in the setting , it is called word of god.

There it is.

The contradictory perspective that work through absoluteness.

One question  are you a Qunari? It is called word of Ashkaari Koslun right?

[TheKomandorShepard]

There it is.

The contradictory perspective that work through absoluteness.

One question  are you a Qunari? It is called word of Ashkaari Koslun right?

 

There is nothing contradictory here , developers are one that dictate everything in the setting so their word is absolute truth when it comes to setting created by them.While you may think your headcanon is more important than what devs said it won't change fact it doesn't reflect reality and status of an actual product. 

[Kakistos_]

Avernus is in Origins, in the Soldier's Peak DLC.


Awakening is not relevant because that is Origin's expansion. Judging by your above comment, you seem to be mixing up the Soldier's Peak DLC with the Awakening expansion pack. Soldier's Peak featured Avernus, Awakening featured the Architect and his version of the Joining to awaken the darkspawn.

The Calling refers to the sound a Warden starts to hear when the taint starts taking over the mind and body. It is the alarm that lets the Warden know that his time is coming. So instead of remain on the surface and become a danger to those around him or her, the Warden goes into the Deep Roads to kill as many darkspawn as possible, and die doing so. The Calling does not transform the Warden into a ghoul. The taint does. And yes, controlling the taint would delay or eliminate the Calling completely because the taint would never overtake the Warden's mind or body.


No. Eliminating the Calling is just a side effect of curing the taint. Delaying or subverting the Calling is the effect of controlling the spread of the taint.

 

My bad, I did mix up Awakenings and Soldiers Peak. My point however stands. The concept of the cure for the Calling/manipulation of the Taint is introduced in Soldiers Peak and is expanded in Awakenings. DAII makes it clear that revelations in BOTH events are being researched. Here is Avernus mentioning The Architect in a letter to the Warden:

 

"However, the information sent about the Architect has proven invaluable to my efforts, and I am pleased to report limited success. As the Architect surmised, considerable untapped power exists within Grey Warden blood. When properly prepared, its effects can be remarkable.

But my research has also revealed some alarming implications, which I've attached in the old Acanthan cipher. I urge you to send this to the First Warden at once." - Avernus - Codex Entry: Grey Warden Letters

 

No one, not the Warden, Avernus, The Architect or the First Warden are talking about curing the Taint. It is very obvious that they are trying to CONTROL the Taint and thus Curing the Calling by stopping the Taint from progressing to the point where the Warden dies.

[Dai Grepher]

Sorry, but your statment isn't even supported by in-game characters let alone developers, in entire series there is nothing said about wardens being made stronger with age yet you insist otherwise because you say so

I think she may have been referring to the taint. As time goes on it gets more powerful, but at the same time, the Warden's mind and body are consumed by the spread. Avernus' magic halted the spread, but allowed the taint to grow stronger.

Gaider gave his perspective when he said that such theory was not necessarily wrong,now it all comes as what is your definition of canon.

Gaider was saying that it was possible. Not that it was so. Canon is what is in the game.

Why Morrigan word should be took as canon?(words wrote by Gaider)

Because its in the game, and she knows the spell and how it operates.

She just gave you few inside about the spell she didn't' taught the spell to you.

But she confirmed the old god soul would seek the child like a beacon.

Such theories are constructed to try to go further on the explanation and so long as they are not extremely far fetched and improbable they aren't wrong until proved wrong,heck they even find some link with the codex of DUmat as for why non Gw were unsuitable to kill archdemeons.

But the non-Wardens didn't have the Dark Ritual at the time, so it's irrelevant. And we don't see how an archdemon reacts when slain by a non-Warden. And your theory is far-fetched. If the soul is flowing into the Grey Warden, then it should be conflicting with the Warden's soul. There is no evidence that a soul flows through a body and on to something else, especially in the case of a Warden vs. the Archdemon.

So you merely posted what the game reveal to you and developed a theory just like me.

No, I posted what the same states. The soul seeks the child like a beacon. Fact.

There is nothing contradictory here , developers are one that dictate everything in the setting so their word is absolute truth when it comes to setting created by them.

Not if the devs are incorrect and contradict the canon of the game. Like how Gaider called Anora's mother something completely different until some fan informed him that her mom's name was Celia, as stated by Loghain in the game.

[Dai Grepher]

My bad, I did mix up Awakenings and Soldiers Peak.

No prob.

My point however stands. The concept of the cure for the Calling/manipulation of the Taint is introduced in Soldiers Peak and is expanded in Awakenings.

Incorrect. All I'm claiming is that the Calling is not what is being cured here. The Calling does not make the taint spread faster, and it is not what kills the Warden. The taint kills the Warden. The taint causes the Calling. And this was not expanded on in Awakening, which was only about the Architect using the Grey Warden resistance to free the Darkspawn from the song, and everyone knew about the Warden resistance already.

DAII makes it clear that revelations in BOTH events are being researched. Here is Avernus mentioning The Architect in a letter to the Warden:

Yes, DA2 states this. Not Awakening.

"However, the information sent about the Architect has proven invaluable to my efforts, and I am pleased to report limited success. As the Architect surmised, considerable untapped power exists within Grey Warden blood. When properly prepared, its effects can be remarkable.
But my research has also revealed some alarming implications, which I've attached in the old Acanthan cipher. I urge you to send this to the First Warden at once." - Avernus - Codex Entry: Grey Warden Letters

Yes, we know that considerable untapped power exists within Grey Warden blood. Yes we know that when properly prepared its effects can be remarkable. We learned all this at Soldier's Peak. But what you need to notice is that Avernus is referring to the blood. Why? Because the blood carries the taint. The Calling is the voice of the old god. The voice of the old god is not carried in the blood.

No one, not the Warden, Avernus, The Architect or the First Warden are talking about curing the Taint.

They're not talking about curing anything in that quote. They are talking about the power that lies in Grey Warden blood. Warden blood is tainted. There is no mention of the Calling.

It is very obvious that they are trying to CONTROL the Taint and thus Curing the Calling by stopping the Taint from progressing to the point where the Warden dies.

Right, control the TAINT. I agree that Avernus is trying to control the taint. He's trying to tap into it so that the Grey Warden can live with the taint, reap its powers, but not succumb to it. And yes, as a result of controlling this spread, the Calling will not be heard. I never denied this. But this in itself is not seen as a cure for the Calling, it is seen as controlling the taint, mastering it, tapping into it. Not hearing the Calling is just the result of preventing the taint from taking over and corrupting the Warden.

Now, none of this has anything to do with the information Morrigan gave to the Hero. The Hero wants be be free of the taint completely, like Fiona was freed from it. The Hero does not want to die. The Calling does not kill the Wardens. The Calling merely acts as an alarm to let the Warden know that the taint is starting to take over completely.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I think she may have been referring to the taint. As time goes on it gets more powerful, but at the same time, the Warden's mind and body are consumed by the spread. Avernus' magic halted the spread, but allowed the taint to grow stronger.

S/He refered specifically to grey wardens getting stronger with age what isn't supported anywhere, while trying use series of incorrect arguments that either don't exist or don't match this specific example .

[Lazarillo]

Right, control the TAINT. I agree that Avernus is trying to control the taint. He's trying to tap into it so that the Grey Warden can live with the taint, reap its powers, but not succumb to it. And yes, as a result of controlling this spread, the Calling will not be heard. I never denied this. But this in itself is not seen as a cure for the Calling, it is seen as controlling the taint, mastering it, tapping into it. Not hearing the Calling is just the result of preventing the taint from taking over and corrupting the Warden.

Now, none of this has anything to do with the information Morrigan gave to the Hero. The Hero wants be be free of the taint completely, like Fiona was freed from it. The Hero does not want to die. The Calling does not kill the Wardens. The Calling merely acts as an alarm to let the Warden know that the taint is starting to take over completely.

I think some of the lexical issues might just come from the fact that DAI seemed really reluctant to refer to the Taint as "the Taint".  The Warden's letter uses "the Calling" instead, explicitly stating that to be what kills the Wardens.  On Varric's personal quest, there are references to "Blighted" lyrium instead of "Tainted" lyrium, etc.

[KaiserShep]

Heh, taint.